Since I started on Sub Club subs I became too sensitive or allergic to some things I eat or put on my body.
Examples:
Olive oil (extra virgin) causes me red spots on the face.
My shampoo and conditioner started making my scalp red and itchy and my hair to fall a lot. These are hair products with already a low level of harsh chemicals. With a new shampoo it has gotten better during the day, but my hair still falls a lot when in the shower. I’m still trying to solve this problem, as it makes all the difference with women having short or long hair, and I cannot afford to lose my hair. Actually I stopped using subs (I’m on a big washout) at least until I solve this situation.
I understand these kind of things happening with stuff like sugars, because sugars that don’t come from fruit or honey are inherently bad, so lets say that subs forced me to be more healthy, but for olive oil (extra virgin), or hair products with low levels of chemicals? I always heard olive oil is healthy.
It’s not the subs. They are influencing you take better care of yourself and part of that is through Diet. Affecting food and chemical allergies through subliminals would break through many scientific doors, but unfortunately they’re not.
It’s not uncommon for a body to develop allergies or intolerance to things that were once fine.
Have you tried a different brand of olive oil? How scientific was your experiment, in that, if you were to use the oil now, and again once the red spots go away, without changing much with your diet and hygiene rituals, would you still get them?
About hair loss, it could be diet related, stress related, medical related or genetically related. Examine these points and examine your scalp health, you might find a ketoconazol shampoo useful. Also, rosemary oil mixed with your conditioner multiple times a week and leave it for a little while. You’d find many better hair related remedies and recipes out there.
One thing for certain is that hairfall has nothing to do with subliminals.
Don’t stress yourself. If that were true, all bald men would be single. Yes, it makes a difference, but so does many many other things, most of which take precedence. Furthermore, there are many solutions to hair problems out there and more being developed. You can get them cheap in some countries with well qualified doctors and facilities. So don’t sweat it too much.
The experiment was done with different oils because when I eat at restaurants they have different brands than the one I have at home.
And yes, I used the oil now, and again once the red spots go away, without changing much with my diet and hygiene rituals.
It is the hair products and stress related, and before using these subs I never had any problem with these products. Also the subs make more stressed and even hyperactive and besides that I’m not reaching any goals which only makes it worse.
I’ve tested a new shampoo and I’m talking to an competent and nice hairdresser to try to solve the problem together with him. Until then no subs.
Can’t speak for all restaurants, but they don’t always use the best kind of olive oil. Olive oil can release histamine which causes an alergical reaction, more so in refined olive oil, but you’re using extra virgin, which still does so at lesser degree regardless.
I suppose you are sensitive to it. If your skin gets a harsh reaction, I suggest you visit or talk to a dermatologist, there might be an underlying cause.
Do you still get a reaction if you apply olive oil to a spot on your face or is it just when digested?
I wasn’t sensitive to it before starting on Sub Club subs.
Anyway for me my hair is more important than subs. My hair is also the source of my spiritual energy and very important for me to fell calm and good with myself when I’m alone, so I stopped with subs.
The following topic was also not sub related, and then more people confirmed my findings:
Edit:
And about this other “coincidence”, I don’t know if I should laugh or cry with one of the solutions provided: “Just shave it!”.
I’ve personally had an awful issue with my hands, ever since approximately the 1st year of Subliminal Club.
My hands would be cracking, red, inflamed, incredibly itchy, red, and at times it would get so bad that they would bleed.
Was it the fact that we were developing our titles, i.e due to subliminal use?
One would be quick to jump to this conclusion - surely it must be subliminals. What else could it be? It started approximately at the same time, so must be.
Ran Paragon. Issue got worse. What could it be? Must be subliminals, right? It’s getting worse so nothing else could be it.
Well, turns out I started showering more on Paragon. Since both @SaintSovereign and myself live and breathe subliminal development and lead extremely disciplined lives, a habit becoming intensified sticks out like a sore thumb. The subconscious mind has a much closer connection with the body, and can send such signals that one can pick up through in-depth digging into one’s self and one’s patterns, as well as through journaling.
Turns out it was the water. Once I installed a water filter into my shower, the issue went away and my hands are perfectly clear and healthy. Something in the water aggravated the hell out of my hands, and once it was filtered out, the aggravation stopped and the issue healed.
Not everything is subliminal related. Things change.
In the quoted post, @mecharc was under no circumstances claiming that our titles are responsible for hair loss. He was merely asking a community of men what their suggestions were on combatting hair loss.
I find it a bit deceptive that you framed his inquiry in this manner, almost as if you are attempting to push an agenda, rather than dealing in logic and reason.
Now, this is the third time that you’ve claimed some odd reaction is occurring due to the titles, things that again defy logic and reason.
What mechanism within what title would trigger an allergy to olive oil? Have you gotten an allergy test to confirm that you aren’t just allergic? It’s common medical knowledge that allergies to foods can spring up any time in life, and many of us have experienced this, independent from sub use.
In all three posts you’ve made about these “issues,” no one else has experienced what you’ve said, which means that even if it is subliminal use, it is a response that is unique to you and not some kind of widespread issue that people just don’t know about.
We have dealt with this before, individuals not realizing how much of a solipsistic and egocentric mindset they are operating from to think their unique reaction to something can be superimposed upon the entire collective body of humanity, a mindset that comes from the person not realizing that they are not qualified to make such assertions.
And if this continues, we will have no choice to deny future sales, since safety is our priority and you are not taking action to see if you have a developing medical issue.
And that being said, while I know the subs don’t cause this issue, and the issue you stated about your eyes, but I know what does:
Faulty energetic practices, attempting to awaken Kundalini, etc. The sudden appearance of food allergies is extremely common when doing these, as those of us doing legit Qigong will attest.
And I took one look at your post history and the very first post is you stating that you engage in reiki and kundalini awakening practices, which sounds like New Age nonsense considering Reiki and concepts of kundalini are from two vastly different belief systems and the only people who syncretize these things are new agers.
And then there’s this:
Are you asking these vendors and services or whatever the same question, or singling us out? Perhaps the issue is the “alien chip” that was allegedly inside you?
Makes sense that subliminals exacerbate the problems we have or things we can improve.
Actions that I took to reduce the hair fall:
When I opened this thread, I had already bought a new shampoo at the farmacy and had gone to a new hairdresser that told me I was having an allergic reaction in my scalp (the scalp was red). At the time, he also had done an intense wash up on my scalp to remove previous product buildup from my scalp completely.
Before you replied, I also had watched some YouTube videos from Dr. Eric Berg DC like (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrhGIgye_Z4) and, even though I consider myself to have a good diet, I started eating more eggs, but I know that I still can try more suggestions from his videos (which might work or not…).
Also before you replied, I had gone to a doctor to ask for general blood tests, more extensive than usual, but he refused to prescribe them, saying that “I don’t need them!”. Because my experiences with doctors have been really bad in the last years, and because I have access to information on the Internet, I have been gathering information about to what substances should I make tests on my own, to have a more complete report.
I also have been in my longest NoFap streaks so far, which are not very long compared to people that practice it, but are long considering I quickly restore my levels of testosterone due to the heavy and high intensity exercise I practice regularly (CrossFit).
I took it (my tasks) easier than before, with more periods to relax and take walks.
I also stopped listening to subliminals for a month (from the 27th December till the 26th January and from the 6th February till today).
Due to the above actions my hair fall rate reduced.
So, on the 27th January, after a week of stability (and a month of not listening to subliminals), I thought that maybe subliminals have nothing to do with this. Maybe it’s just that things changed (even though I still hadn’t figured out clearly what changed in my environment or on myself, if anything changed at all).
So I decided to try to start a new cycle, this time composed of Asc + LB + PS.
Monday (the 27th January), I started with 2 second loops of LB + Asc (from now on I’ll refer to it as 2s loops). At the gym, while doing intense workout I felt heart palpitations and some heart pain and so I slowed down, because at the time I might have been processing heart wounds due to LB, even though I’m not sure about this. Anyway, I decided to not listen to more loops for a while. In the shower, again my hair felt much more than usual But I thought to myself, this is maybe because I don’t listen to subliminals for a while, and the testosterone levels are going up (variations in testosterone levels might cause hair fall). Let me insist a little more.
Wednesday (the 29th January), I didn’t listen to any loops, I did an intense workout, and it went fine. In the shower, the hair fall reduced a little, but it was still higher than normal.
Friday (the 31st January), after 3 days without listening to subliminals, I decided to run a microloop of PS of 7s (this is around the length of the PS loops I normally use), but my player interrupted it from about second 2 to second 4 due to a bug, so in reality I did not even listen to 7s. In terms of attractiveness, it made women give me IOI’s, it made me feel like a Lion, lustful energy, and made me feel rich. Great! At night, and during the weekend, I started ruminating a lot, couldn’t focus on my tasks, started over analyzing things without being able to take decisions and reach conclusions (endless cycles), couldn’t sleep too much, woke up with more under eye wrinkles than usual, I got restless, the hair fall rate increased, and my eyes and skin got irritated. My mind wouldn’t let me rest and enjoy the moment even when taking a long bath (my mind would force me to ruminate about subjects and force me to analyze things against my will).
What was causing this extreme restlessness and rumination when I listened to PS? I couldn’t figure it out. So I decided that I can’t listen to PS anymore, at least until I figure that out.
Monday (the 3rd February), I woke up again with itch in my scalp. I didn’t sleep well with lots of itch on the face while in bed, but I think it was still because of having listened to PS. I decided to listen to 1s of LB followed by 1s of Asc, to see if the healing effect of LB would relieve my restlessness and the consequent skin reactions.
Wednesday (the 5th February), I listened to 1s of LB. I didn’t listen to Asc, because I was still agitated (and my hair was still falling too much). Some hours after listening to LB I started having trouble with my balance (which seems to be a recon effect). That was the last time I listened to a subliminal until today.
Summary of the symptoms exacerbated by the subs, or caused by exposure to the subs:
a) The following symptoms were not present before I started listening to Asc (my first Sub Club sub): I focus too much on negativity, tasks to improve control over my life, tasks to reclaim my power against others, or tasks to protect myself from my vulnerabilities, instead of focusing on the important and positive work/career/wealth tasks to move forward with my life. Anyway, I’m being unable to solve that conflict, so that I can dismiss those urges.
And the more I listen to Asc, the more vulnerabilities I keep discovering, and my backlog keeps accumulating.
Also the above have now become internalized even without listening to subs.
b) Before I started listening to Sub Club subs, I already had the problem of being a perfectionist and worrying too much about things that have a very low probability to happen, and that is exacerbated by the subs. Now combine this with what I mentioned in the previous paragraph: it leads me for example to being a perfectionist on tasks to improve control over my life, or worrying too much about things that make me feel in control, but that are not very important or that have a low probability of going wrong. So I have to be careful about some scripting like this being inserted into my mind, at least until I fix the root problem (too much worry, fear, negativity, and perfectionism).
c) Restlessness is another symptom I already had before I started to listen to Sub Club subs, which is also exacerbated by Asc, but gets unbearable with PS. Sometimes I think it’s due to the fact that I want to achieve my goals or put the basics of my life back together as quickly as possible, but to be honest I’m using these subs for almost 11 months and I still don’t have my life enoughly organized to start moving forward work/career/wealth wise, as the more I listen to subs, the more problems and vulnerabilities on myself keep arising (and I keep focusing on them instead of moving forward), and it’s being difficult for me to meet around new interesting and fun people who are also single, so it’s difficult to maintain myself patient.
d) Too much introspection, analysis and rumination about situations that happened are other symptoms that I didn’t have before I started listening to Sub Club subs, but that now became internalized even without listening to subs.
e) Too much preparation for events that will happen is another symptom that I already had before I started listening to Sub Club subs.
f) By adding PS to the mix, all of the above symptoms get even more exacerbated, to the point they become unbearable, except that with PS I start focusing less on negativity and more on positivity and on moving forward (in other words there is a relieve of the symptoms in a) ).
g) In my opinion, the huge stress associated with all of the above symptoms (some of them caused by the subs and some of them amplified by the subs) is the main factor that causes the hair to fall, not being able to sleep well, more accentuated under eye wrinkles, more irritated face skin, and irritated scalp and eyes. During the winter, even before I started listening to Sub Club subs, I use to have itch and dry skin just on my face, but the subs seem to exacerbate the problem, and so that skin itch becomes much more intense and some of it spreads to the whole body.
h) The near eyesight problem might be also due to too much stress, or due to tiredness.
i) About the olive oil, I have tried a few brands in the past, and all caused me red spots on the face, but a few days ago (now that I don’t listen to subs again for more than 1 month) I bought a new brand of “organic” olive oil, and the problem has been solved. Anyway I just went to try again the old olive oil brand, and I didn’t get red spots, but I felt some heart palpitations. My theory is that when I was in a more reactive/fighting stage, the symptom was red spots on the face, and now that I’ve been healing my broken heart I feel symptoms in my heart. Curiously, before I was trying to get rid of my emotions, which can have a physical parallel of expelling the olive oil through the skin, and now I’m more in touch and accepting of my emotions, which can have a physical parallel of feeling some things in my heart. So I think the subs triggered the unlocking of emotions that were repressed, but until I learned how to make them flow and how to process them (mainly through Hatha Yoga, and I’ll expand on it later on), it has been too much of a stressful experience.
j) I think the heart palpitations and heart pain I felt when I listened to the first loop of LB of my last cycle, were due to emotional heart wounds coming to the surface so that they could be healed, and lately when I abused from sugar in my diet I felt some heart stings like electric shocks, but they went away by reducing the sugar intake. I was doing heart stress tests, an electrocardiogram, and a heart ultrasound around every 2 years, and at the time, the doctors told me that the heart palpitations are due to anxiety, and the stings are nothing to worry about, but this time I don’t do heart exams for about 4 years, so it’s a good idea to ask a doctor for new exams.
Note also that I already had a cheap shower filter, but I never thought it makes any difference. After reading your answer, I started considering it again, and I remembered that maybe my filter needed to be replaced. I checked online how long those filters last, and indeed it had expired. So on the 23rd February, I researched and bought a new one. After installing it, I saw no improvement on my face skin and hair, so I think that, later on, I need to research and buy an expensive one (I cannot use reviews from YouTube videos and online articles as most of them are for filters for people living in the US).
In what concerns social interactions, when cycling, most people feel intimidated by me, or start to envy me even if I take a humble approach, and so they start to get further away from me leaving me in isolation (even if adding LB to the mix - as recommended by @SaintSovereign here - Is users free will really being respected? - #12 by SaintSovereign). When not cycling, some people start being nice to me and approaching me, and lately I started to get some recognition from my current mentors (which is more difficult to happen when cycling, due to the envies and fear/intimidation).
Not to forget the positive results that I achieved by listening to Ascension, being the main ones being considered a High Status Man and that I started being respected by people in general, and when that doesn’t happen I stand my ground and people then respect me. I posted my results here: Main Disc. Thread - Ascension ZP v2 - #117 by SuperSaiyan
On the 24th February, I started practicing Hatha Yoga, which includes meditation, to help me heal from the negativity, anxiety, excessive fear, and broken heart, but also because I’m falling into repetitive negative trauma patterns (ex: meeting and fighting/dealing with problematic women). For now, I’m seeing results in terms of being more in contact with myself and with my emotions without identifying with it (the painful ones), instead of dismissing them, I’m being able to listen to, understand, and communicate with myself better, and I’m starting to integrate parts of me as a whole. Thanks to Hatha Yoga (and a competent teacher that taught me how to breed correctly and to keep breeding while feeling the pain due to the Yoga poses) I automatically started keeping awareness on my full being as much as possible during the day, which allows things to be released at other times.
I’ve also been looking into Vipassana meditation and Completion, as recommended by @emperor_obewan, and I’m going to keep trying healing practices, to see if I can keep healing without subliminal usage.
Until then (which might be a very long time), no more subliminal usage.
Other than that I only see 2 options:
Run Rebirth to quickly deal with most of this trauma and negativity inside me (hoping that it works without me having to expose myself to vulnerable situations/problems with other people, as at the moment, I don’t have time to be fighting/dealing with people). In that way, the stress related symptoms could become much smaller, and then I would be able to listen to the regular subs. Actually I think people who have lots of trauma to process, like in my case, should first focus on subs to help them to process it (or to help them find practices to process it, like Hatha Yoga), before focusing on subs to reach their goals.
If there would be a sub that improves positivity, calmness, and boosts confidence, urging the user to take actions related to work/career/wealth, and little action related to approaching women and physical exercise, without urging the user to take actions that are not a priority (should be the user to consciously decide what actions he wants to take and when).
I know the control over urges has already been talked about on the forum, and a way you recommend to achieve it is by exposing less frequently, and with micro loops (Are we still in control? Or is what all we do just an expression of the subs - #5 by Fire), but I’ve already been running very short micro loops (2s for Asc and LB, and 7s for PS) with only a few days of exposure.
For me it feels that even with 2 second loops and with only a few days of exposure the subs are still too intense.
Another recommended way to achieve the control over urges is to keep practicing meditation and journaling to keep becoming more aware of my own thought processes and to solve any conflicts that come to the surface, which I keep on doing. Becoming more aware of my own thought processes involves introspection and analysis of past situations, but I feel like the subs have a component to urge about it (which in my case leads to over introspection and over analysis of past situations), because before listening to Sub Club subs I didn’t feel compelled to do those.
I don’t know anything about creating subs, but in my ignorance it looks to me that, for example, if a sub has just the phrases “I feel positive, I feel calm, I feel confident” it won’t lead to reconciliation, introspection, nor to urging the user to take action.
I’m having a symptom that I didn’t have before I started listening to Sub Club subs, another person that is listening to Sub Club subs complained about the same symptom, it made sense to me that for both me and him the subs were triggering it. I don’t see anything deceptive about it.
We should take action taking into account both emotions and logic. Even when we think we are only using logic, behind the scenes the emotions are guiding us, we just might not be aware of it. I was in big emotional pain at the time, and still my complaints were not made without first reasoning about it.
Anyway, I find it funny that sometimes people accuse you of being evil (which I don’t agree with), and now you’re accusing me of doing something evil (being deceptive and pushing an agenda).
And this is a community of people (not only men), since there are women in the community.
Please read paragraph i).
Please read paragraph i).
No one?
If you read some paragraphs above, this is the kind of restlessness that gets unbearable when I listen to PS (and it’s a shame that I can’t listen to it because I love the good things about this sub, like how women treat me).
For the irresistible urges (we already talked about it bringing to the surface conflicts that need to be solved first for the urges to disappear, etc.), a few days after I posted about it, @Dreamevile posted about them:
About the olive oil, yes I’m the only one to report that, and in paragraph i) I already explained why I think it happened.
Another empty accusation. And it goes two.
What I felt is quite the opposite, my facts and experiences being dismissed.
Is all the humanity using Sub Club products?
An egocentric person is a person who always thinks the issues reported about his work don’t exist at all, or that his work has nothing to improve…
Like things are at the moment, I’m currently not going back to subs anyway.
That’s why I provided the 3 options some paragraphs above, being that the first one involves healing using other tools other than subs.
The third false accusation. It looks to me that you’re shooting randomly into the air in the hope you might hit something.
You took a look at my post history? Well, you should have looked deeper:
On the 11th of December, after more than 7 months of using subs, I went to a Reiki session, and never went to it again.
Why did I go? After a few loops of HS, a woman that I’ve been interacting with broke my heart, and it was too much for me too handle (by the way, the HS product description promises to manifest a twin soul so that we heal each other, not to repeat and amplify past traumatizing experiences so that we can work on our vulnerabilities):
Coming back to the Reiki subject:
There has been a change here: after the Reiki session, I felt love inside myself, but what was different is that I felt that love was not mine, like it was the love from someone else, or like some kind of entity was inside of me. I felt uncomfortable and wanted to get it out of my body, but I was not able to. The solution I found was to masturbate. After it, most of that uncomfortable “love” had been expelled.
Later on, I went there to do a facial treatment for my dry face skin (didn’t do any other spiritual session), and after some conversations with her, I noticed that she also started to envy me. I tried to talk about it, but she didn’t want to, so I never contacted her again and I decided to pull away from her.
About the Kundalini sessions:
I did my last Kundalini session on the 27th February 2024. I started on Sub Club on the 24th April 2024. My olive oil allergies (which chronologically was the first symptom from the three physical ones mentioned on my previous posts) appeared somewhere in September 2024, and you are telling me it was the Kundalini session that triggered it?
About the new agers:
I agree with you, that there are lots of new agers and actually lots of people on the Internet who don’t make sense when they talk about things, so I’m not talking just about new agers, I’m talking about people in general on the Internet, especially people with less life experience and maturity, who are normally too emotional, but not enoughly rational.
But the Internet is for everyone, and we should be able to select the competent ones. Just because many are incompetent, it doesn’t mean all of them are incompetent.
I didn’t get the idea of mixing Reiki and Kundalini from anyone. I had the opportunity to get to know these practices separately and I decided to try them, without being aware that mixing them could cause harm. Now I’m curious, but I’m not sure if I understood it correctly, when you say that they are from two vastly different belief systems. Can you develop on that, and give an example on why those belief systems will necessarily conflict with each other, without being possible a conciliation/unification of both? If people here are advised to stack Reiki or Kundalini with their subliminal stack, after they get comfortable with their subliminal stack, why do you think people shouldn’t stack the three simultaneously?
The fact that you and @Fire mention so much new agers (and confuse me with one), makes a theory pop up in my mind (which might be true or not): you might have trauma related to these people and/or practices and in that scenario you need healing from that (and maybe I need it too, since this subject is being brought to me by both of you so many times), otherwise these people might keep disturbing you and you might never be able to bring them along with you.
It looks to me you have a problem being open to new ideas, or that you’re open, but can’t understand the complexity of some of them.
Why can’t more advanced civilizations than us, have access to technology that makes them invisible to us, having access to nano (or even smaller) chips that can be shot at us from distance and stay attached to our body or enter our blood flow, being that the right energetic ritual with the right frequency could short circuit the chip (since electricity is energy)?
Galileo also was crazy when he said the earth orbited around the sun instead of being the center of the universe (he inclusively was arrested by the Church), and later on people admitted he was right.
My Reiki therapist at the time was showing me results in terms of healing, and one of the things she claimed was to remove alien chips. I don’t know whether it is true or not, but (and here is my mistake) I started assuming that because she was showing me results about other things that she works on, like removing negative energies, or filling me with love, then other things she would say would be true too.
The truth is that at least I’m open to exploring new ideas, even when initially they don’t seem to make sense. That’s how I got into subliminals. The first time I listened to subliminals on YouTube from a Sub Club competitor I thought “This is probably another scam for getting YouTube views. An audio file with some frequencies and a calming music changing my life? Anyway, let’s try it, we never know…”. And here I am.
Having results with my Reiki therapist and being open to more concepts she introduces to me, is similar to having results with Ascension and being open to try more titles.
Btw, what has the “alien chip” concept to do with my complaints? Do my complaints trigger you that much that you have to try to change the subject?
And yes, when a bad thing would happen due to the usage of the other vendors’ services, I would ask questions/complain/suggest improvements, have discussions with them, and in most cases reinforce the connection we had.
Now, it’s your choice to take my feedback, also assume responsibility, take the opportunity to think about how to improve your products and your Masterclasses, and start replying constructively so that we can work together to find agreements and solutions, or not.
I have this ideal and dream of getting along with everyone in the world (even before I started on Sub Club subs), since I believe everyone represents a part of ourselves, and so when I reconcile with someone, that part of me gets healed, but that reconciliation doesn’t depend only on me.
Ugh. What a mess of stuff to come into my inbox just for a single tag. I’ve been taking time off from the forums and these types of posts remind me why I have been.
Regardless, I will address a couple of points in that stream of consciousness essay that jumped out at me before I jump back into monk mode.
Reiki.
This is one of those topics that peels open just why there is a lot of resistance to talking about energy system / belief systems / certain practices on the board.
Reiki was originally created by Mikao Usui in Japan after he had a mystical experience after doing a lot of prior study and a long meditation/retreat. It shares (in its original form) a lot in common with various internal energy work systems like Qigong, thanks to the long running exchange of information between Indian, Japanese and Asian individuals on the European continent and on the islands of Japan over thousands of years.
However, in bringing this system to the West, and in large part due to the prevalent business models, views of morality, and economic conditions, as well as the lack of a single comprehensive training strategy, there has been the development of multiple grifts, varying levels of knowledge of the original system being passed on, and the development of new “systems” also called Reiki to piggyback off the success of the original system.
So now if you ask Google “how many different sytstems of reiki are there”, it suggests over a thousand different variations, with other sites suggesting at least 30 different primary branches. Many of them are trademarked and even the Reiki website gets things horribly wrong by suggesting that Usui “channeled” his system and that many more are being “channeled” (read: made up) all the time, and even tries to claim that all these variations can “do no harm” because ther energy is “guided by the higher power”.
This sort of claptrap is why we cannot have nice things™, because someone can pay some privileged amount to get a cute little certificate from someone that says they are a Reiki master in X system (Karuna Reiki, Rainbow Reiki , Golden Age Reiki, Holy Fire Reiki, etc etc) and set up a business telling people they are an “energy healer” and please let me lay my hands on you (thank you very much Bon Jovi) for money. Bad medicine if I ever saw it!
Furthermore, because of the power of the original attunement process (which I can attest to, having been initiated back in the mid 90s by someone only a few generations removed from Usui), some of those who practice can forget the incredible process Usui had to go through to obtain his own abilities and don’t bother spending the time to balance their own energy systems, or go about it in completely unsystematic ways.
Why are there so many different systems, and so many healers out there? Because people in their hunger to get well or to feel “special” for having gotten some “attunement” won’t do enough research before going to someone to get “initiated”, and don’t understand the level of self-work required to be a good healer, or even to reach a state of true health yourself regardless of whether you heal others. Today, the spiritual-fast-food grifting industry stemming from that desire for a quick fix to every problem has led to a market where people can easily be taken advantage of, and some “masters” will even go so far as to tell their patients that the last person to work on them “put stuff inside them” or buggered up their energy system and now they have to put it right, don’t go to that person come to me or my students (hence giving them more money).
The same situation exists for many of the “masters” teaching “kundalini” (or what they decide kundalini is), because people won’t bother spending years reading books and finding real gurus and cross comparing the original texts of different historical systems in order to figure out the truth, and they prefer to pay others to tell them what the “truth” is.
And the same mindset that leads to falling for grifts is the mindset that makes you think “maybe my hair is falling out because of the subliminals because it started at the same time”. It’s looking at only superficial, surface connections without thinking holistically or going deeper.
Example: ascribing heart palpitations during an intense workout to LB “processing heart wounds”. There are many different things that can cause palpitations; even TCM lists 3 different meridians which can contribute (kidney, liver and heart). It could be an electrolyte imbalance, it could be temperature related, it could be something you’ve eaten, who really knows the cause? Sometimes it is best to avoid making causal links straight away just because it gives you an initial feeling of certainty and try to figure things out using a blend of holistic and critical thinking.
Experiment, yes, take risks, but make them calculated risks after you’ve done due diligence.
I had tried Joe Dispenza breathing practice along with subliminals and it led to heart palpitations.
When I did the subliminals alone, I didn’t. When I did the breathing by itself, I didn’t either.
For me the decision was clear. Choose one or do a bit of experimenting to get the right practices for me. I tried: “continue to do the JD meditations but not the breathing exercise. And I run subliminals.” No issues now.
Not all issues need improvement of someone else’s tools (as it is Saint and Fire work hard to make it so and give it away for free in updates). But the crux of the matter is the subconcious and if you are not getting results, you need to dig deeper.
What part of me is blocking results or getting unwanted sideffects? Why do others get results but I don’t? Or why do others not get these bad reactions am having but I do?
That’s the whole point of journaling. Digging deeper into your subconcious by reflecting every day after running subliminals.
I will give an example of skin issues that you can relate to. I was having dandruff on my head and a patch of white spot on my chin. So to resolve this, I purchased antidandruff shampoos and stopped shaving to not aggravate the white patch under my chin. I did beard trimming and the patch reduced but didn’t go away.
I ran subs from SC for a long time while dealing with both. Even Paragon Complete didn’t help.
Before the subs I even went to a dermatologist who just gave me a lotion that didn’t help much.
But as soon as I ran Chosen, a niece of mine told me my hair has a bit of unwanted scent and I immediately thought, I think I need to see another skin doctor. So I did and he gave me meds sayiing that both my “dandruff” and white skin spot on my upper neck were fungal in nature. And the meds immediately stopped the itching!!! I was treating myself for dandruff for a long time when I didn’t have any! Goodness knows what it did to my poor hair lol.
Now why did Chosen give me the results I wanted? I know it is Chosen cause I didn’t run it before and was running it for the first time. In my view, I was holding some subconcious structure that was resolved by Chosen and it gave me a solution to bring back my confidence.
Or maybe after I ran Chosen, I reflected and resolved a particular issue after all the time I spent here making other reflections and coming to other resolutions from my previous stacks (as in it was the sum total of all subs I ran including Paragon Complete). Maybe I was resdy for the shift and Chosen gave me an encouraging push.
So what am I trying to say? Don’t blame the tools that Saint and Fire have provided for such a steal. Keep digging. Keep digging cause the subconcious is an abyss. And it is worth the exploration.
Take the ride! Take the journey! Be willing to fall and feel crappy. Be willing to get temporary physical issues to solve permanent subconcious ones.
Even when I leave SC, I come back. Cause no other subs give me as much a level of depth as the ones here.
After all that, if you still don’t want to run the subliminals, that is fine. Please stop bothering us with this same rhetoric of yours.
The first thing I ever complained is on Diamond because I was so desperate to fix an issue, it took a long time (not that very long) but it help solve my problem. Both Emperor and Khan - I had lots of encounters with women and I got what I wanted but my Gun below isn’t ready, that’s the reason why I’m so desperate.
Well I remember I had a pierce-heart effect with Dragon Reborn, I believe because I had this emotional issue with several experiences I had, and because men don’t know how to channel emotions better than women - the title helps me to throw it away.
Subliminal can help if we allow it to help you - I was a fan of Dragon Reborn = it can help you to balance your life and when you get into that level you become more attractive to things that are beneficial to you, you don’t need to dig around and asked what is best for you.
When you become anxious that means you’re not there yet, recon! then it’s working but needs to wait.
Hair issue, I don’t have that but I would recommend LoTs or Wanted Black (some choose Wanted).
I believe it is a good idea to have those sensitivity and allergies when your growing, I had lots of them during my childhood (playing on mud, bitten by insects, etc.) because it will spike your immune system to become stronger, rather than put all your reliance completely on doctor’s care or medicine.
It’s the food in-balance that make us feel strange (like losing hair). You need to fix your diet, have some sun, exercise, and have a good sleep.
My regimen, coconut water (you already got olive, coconut oil is also good if you can handle it - just take it like a medicine one teaspoon or tablespoon every day) it packs lots of vitamins and minerals.
Sugar can be considered bad if not used, avoid those corn syrup (synthetic are good tasting but our body doesn’t know what to do with them) Our body needs sugar for energy, but if you are just sitting around then you’re creating problems.
Sun is vitamin D, especially D3, add a vitamin K.
B complex, Biotin, some would go with B12 (this vitamins works well with Biotin). Our body is already manufacturing this, but it decreases through age.
No vitamins works without minerals, I’m like a monkey I can’t go without eating bananas (vit B, potassium (help with sleep and removing shits)), also magnesium.
Ah eggs, it has Choline (helps on increasing sperm count). Zinc too. Avoid too much Iron (it will decrease the count). Iron is for women.
I rarely took vitamins on my part, It will took a miracle to find me sick. There are enough greens that can provide everything you need, you don’t need to purchase vitamins, and minerals are usually on the greens.
Remember too much will do more harm than good, it’s best to eat than took it like a medicine.
Some people likes to mix everything on a blender (recommended for people who hates eating green) but if you still had working teeth then eat them.
For women they usually have vitamin E (careful too much can harm the heart), collagen (helps with hair and skin), and vitamin a, b complex, d3, c, biotin, and minerals. I got this from my girl friends.
The spontaneous emergence of allergies due to faulty energetic practices to “awaken the Kundalini” is a well-documented phenomenon. It’s not even something you have to go looking for. A quick Google or ChatGPT query illustrates this quite well:
What do you know! Here’s one from the NIH, an official United States federal government health organization:
Here’s one from a certified acupuncturist:
People. Stop fucking around with Kundalini crap from YouTube. And definitely don’t mix them with all kinds of energetic titles, “alien chips,” the reiki’s (which again, I’m sure came from YouTube). Energetic practices should be conducted under the supervision of a qualified instructor. You will literally destroy your internal system, especially when abusing “fire-based” practices rather than a more holistic practice like Qigong, in which the goal is internal balance rather than focusing on energy centers like chakras.
Do not do these things and then come running back to us complaining for us to fix something we had no involvement with in the first place.
Going forward, there will be no more warnings or explanations for those abusing these things and then screaming at us – you will be banned from the forum and we may prevent you from making any new purchases.
But I thought to myself, this is maybe because I don’t listen to subliminals for a while, and the testosterone levels are going up (variations in testosterone levels might cause hair fall). Let me insist a little more.
, Golden Age Reiki, Holy Fire Reiki, etc etc) and set up a business telling people they are an “energy healer” and please let me lay my hands on you (thank you very much Bon Jovi) for money. Bad medicine if I ever saw it!
