Do these subliminals inevitably affect the chakras and their energy too?

[Sage_Ninjistic]

@Phoermes

I wanted to use the Alchemist to experience those spiritual states, that reality that the sages and teachers talked about. I wanted to heal my shadow, gain control over the egocentric mind in this phenomenal plane - all in all, I sought peace of mind. I had asked many older men from all directions of life, its castes and its paths, they all agreed that peace of mind is one of the most valuable things. No matter how much materials you’ve accumulated, how many panties you’ve adorned your stash with, how many books you’ve read and degrees you’ve decorated your wall’s with; All the accolade, they never bring true peace, tranquility, or satisfaction, and that is the nature of that plagued mind - The Alchemist did not fail to bring this precious gift to fruition. When I am not experiencing it, I am able to return to my senses and enter that state again. As if there’s an intuitive reminder that taps on your shoulder and tells you that you are not this “it”, this narrative, story line, or character that’s running amuck in your head, or you’re pretending to be, quickly bringing back your awareness to the truth of the matter.

Whatever form of spiritual practice you are following, whether it is ceremonial magick, Wicca, left hand/right hand, devotional prayers, Taoist yoga, Buddhist yoga, Judaic, Christian, Sufi traditional practices, and whatever did not make the list, will start to making more sense, you’ll live it, realize it, and amplify it, and the amount of teacher and knowledge that’s popped up my way wass insane.

It helped with shedding off the confusion that I was in, in terms of the many available beliefs about the nature of the world and the correct path that one must take for reaching the higher truths and liberation.

Of course I got many other benefits such as:

• Accelerated energy levels,
• An indomitable sense of well being and that everything will be and is going to be better than I may be believing at any moment,
• Annihilation of the negative thoughts, behaviors and beliefs
• Compassion and love, I am unable to feel hate as I used to, and its taking quite an effort to do so, even then, its more of a temporarily kind of thing
• Intuition
• Effortless observations of the trains of thought and a strong will to not buy a ticket for a ride
• Deeper understanding of reality.
• Better control over emotions, especially anger in its extreme colors
• Fantastic awareness of the world and the illusions that I had clanged on to
• A sense of sadness over other souls strictly abiding in bondage (no the fun kind)
• Elimination of all that was ailing my advancement, on all levels
• Dissociation with the false self and realization of the absolute light within

That’s what’s coming up at this moment. This is not the full experience as it would take me hours to write everything up from the past ~6 months, and it would turn into one of them spiritual lectures lol.

P.S: I had The Alchemist in a custom that included DR4+Alch4+Mind’s eye in terminus, however, I was able to discern the effects from either to a degree; and shall be creating a new custom with Alch only once Q+ is out.

Please do follow the traditionally laid path of climbing from St1 if you do choose to take the Alchemist on. I have seen a great improvement in my friends and loved ones from stage 1 (their energy’s insanely positive, overwhelmingly beautiful and pure - a childlike purity)

I hope this helps out a bit

This is quite literally the only account of Alchemist that makes me want to drop everything and go with my original intentions of enhancing my own personal path.

It definitely reminded me that Alchemist is going to be my first multi stage.

[Phoermes]

Here are some other journals that I could find with The Alchemist:

@Sub.Zero

@James

@Sub.Zero What has been your experience with Alchemist?

Just great! Especially Stage 4 although I’ve been running it for 3 weeks only and there are almost 3 months ahead. It’s made me way calmer and in control of my emotional side. When I feel a rush of anger I can easily manage it. I’ve become detached from people’s negativity and understood that most of them are victims of their conditioning an cannot help the way they are… I kinda pity them from time to time. I’ve got more mature and more align with myself and my philosophy/spirituality of life too. My energy level has gone through the roof.

Through the Dark Art of Mental Alchemy

Lotus in Flames (Alchemist + Emperor + Rebirth)

[Lotos%20in%20Flames] Alchemist Stark Renaissance Man Rebirth Ultima I decided to run two loops of Alchemist, two loops of Stark, two loops of Renaissance Man per night and one loop of RebirthU per day. I interlace each track (apart from Rebirth) with a 15 minutes silence track and use a one hour silence track in the middle of my playlist. I’ll be running my stack three days on and one day off. I can tell Stark kicked in right of the bat since I see how much more socially influential I am…

Alchemist core journal

I purchased Alchemist core late last year and used it for a few weeks, however I felt as though it had no discernible effect on me.Taking a week for each stage, which I know is less than suggested. I was generally looking to have a more of a sense of calm and to see if generally reprogramming my subconscious would have an effect on my reality. After reading Vadim Zeland (Reality transurfing) Dean Radin, Joe Dispenza amongst others I have had varying results. The results I have had with experimen…

AlchemistQ + LimitlessQ

I bought Alchemist when it first released, waiting patiently for that moment when I’ll have to focus more on my magickal practices. Today’s the day. Thanks to @SaintSovereign for offering free upgrades, which makes it possible to hold on their subliminals and wait for a proper time to use without losing any value. I am working on a long term project and I’ll have to perform several “rituals” along the journey. That’s the perfect time to run Alchemist, and maybe benefit from a boost, however sm…

[AlexanderGraves]

@Phoermes

or maybe Fire uses that road map and the other maps from other traditions when developing a title.

Well, HUGE SPECULATION FOLLOWING, OK?

Not that big of a speculation, but if you look at the fact that there are the “As Above, So Below” Superchargers, which is something Isaac Newton said, but has been mentioned MANY years prior by the Hermetics, as well as Saint once mentioning that he read the Kybalion and that it is a powerful book, I could imagine the only “ideas, axioms, methods” used from any sort of belief could be from Hermeticism.

Before anyone gets his pants riled up, as @SaintSovereign always says, the subconscious denies anything that is forced into it and if it doesn’t believe it. So I highly doubt they are straight using Hermetic Principles in the subs.

If anything, for example, Alchemist could use the first of the seven Principles. The Principle of Mentalism that everything is mind to reshape your understanding of reality and help you cultivate the energy of it.

Again, all of this is massive speculation.

@Phoermes

That’s what’s coming up at this moment. This is not the full experience as it would take me hours to write everything up from the past ~6 months, and it would turn into one of them spiritual lectures lol.

Where can I sign up for your spiritual lectures? (I am serious btw )

After I’ve run DR, Alchemist is definitely on the list. Seems like an absolute core sub to run if you want to enjoy this life!

[Budewr]

@AlexanderGraves

So yeah I think the subs do open the chakras, but I don’t think this is intentionally in the subs.

I think it’s just a natural progress.

I totally agree its something natural, if you’ve resolved all blockages within

The chakras will open naturally its your normal state to have your chakras open

Its your true state of being, when theres blockages thats not normal

[Prome]

@Phoermes

Of course I got many other benefits such as:

• Accelerated energy levels,
• An indomitable sense of well being and that everything will be and is going to be better than I may be believing at any moment,
• Annihilation of the negative thoughts, behaviors and beliefs
• Compassion and love, I am unable to feel hate as I used to, and its taking quite an effort to do so, even then, its more of a temporarily kind of thing
• Intuition
• Effortless observations of the trains of thought and a strong will to not buy a ticket for a ride
• Deeper understanding of reality.
• Better control over emotions, especially anger in its extreme colors
• Fantastic awareness of the world and the illusions that I had clanged on to
• A sense of sadness over other souls strictly abiding in bondage (no the fun kind)
• Elimination of all that was ailing my advancement, on all levels
• Dissociation with the false self and realization of the absolute light within

these are fantastic benefits… but tell me something else… As Within, So Without, right?

You’ve mentioned all these internal changes… I’m interested in how your external reality changed based on these internal benefits/changes.

Can you go into that?

thanks

[Phoermes]

Imagine that there’s no anxiety whatever the situation is, whether you’re stopped by a police officer, or having to talk to a judge. Whether your bank hits the negative, or not knowing where you’ll be tomorrow. Imagine being able to get into the flow whenever, be at peace wherever. No longer having that need to compete with everyone, or having to prove yourself. Imagine being all alone without your toys and you’re still at peace. Imagine being in a state of non-reactivity. The monkey in your mind settling on one branch instead of playing Tarzan all the time. I don’t have to imagine with Alchemist and a proper practice.

I would say that the changes to my external reality haven’t had a major, radical shift in the common sense, I didn’t manifest a Victorian castle and a personal Blimp, yet; but I would also propose that I did not seek such changes even though they feel quite effortless to obtain; however, there’s an undeniable sense of mastering of my reality. My main goal was and still is to be at peace even if I were thrown in solitary confinement.

Your mile will vary, especially if you take a different approach. No two paths are alike, although they might intertwine at some point in the distance

[Phoermes]

I forgot to mention the innumerable synchronicity that’s coming my way and psychic abilities - granted they probably need more conscious training, but its undeniable that they’re innately developing from the alchemist by just listening; we all have those I am guessing, just undeveloped.

[AlexanderGraves]

You almost got me to switch to alchemist right away.

But nope, DR is first

Then again, awesome to read, especially the complete non reactive Ness to external influences.

True freedom.

[Phoermes]

@AlexanderGraves

Where can I sign up for your spiritual lectures? (I am serious btw )

The Ashram’s not done yet because of the pandemic

I could offer an insightful book or two if you’re interested.

@AlexanderGraves

You almost got me to switch to alchemist right away.

But nope, DR is first

Then again, awesome to read, especially the complete non reactive Ness to external influences. And yes, keep riding that Dragon till the end, it will accelerate every subliminal afterwards

True freedom.

I had a difficult time maintaining that state prior to the alchemist, its really worth it.

[AlexanderGraves]

You mean DR first or Alchemist to help with DR?

[Phoermes]

DR first’s better in my opinion, it will make everything else afterwards smoother and faster

[Prome]

Wow, I’d like that non-reactivity and non-attachment.

But I believe since our souls inhabit a material body in this material universe, we should also strive to conquer this material realm but not be enslaved and blinded by it.

I believe being a materialist w/ eyes closed leads to spiritual slavery.

I want material things with my eyes open. I want to travel and meet different and interesting people, travel and live comfortably in strange lands and for that, I need money and resources. God has made this earth beautiful and I want to witness it first hand.

I am working on chakras and spirituality, but I don’t want to be deficient in the material realm.

I want to be OSHO like.

Can someone share such experiences? I don’t want cave monk spirituality.

[AlexanderGraves]

Can I just say comparing to the last time I saw you here you made a massive, huge jump in your development.

A new person.

Did you fo anything special or did Khan ST1 finally process?

[Prome]

thank you!

I’ve my chakra subs on the front seat rn. I’m doing one 1Hr loop per day of root chakra rn. Its been 7 days.

I’m also doing hair subs and fields from YT.

I do DR ST1 and AM one loop per day, every few days. I know subclub says dont mix stuff.

I’ve dont have much expectations from subclub rn. I’m just going thru the motions. I’m treating it like hit or miss. I’m glad it worked noticeably for other people.

[OldChap]

They grow you spiritually fo sure mate. Alchemist gave me some of the craziest results. Think I wrote a bit about it.

Yes I did, here it is OldChap The Alchemist

@Prome

thank you!

I’ve my chakra subs on the front seat rn. I’m doing one 1Hr loop per day of root chakra rn. Its been 7 days.

I’m also doing hair subs and fields from YT.

I do DR ST1 and AM one loop per day, every few days. I know subclub says dont mix stuff.

I’ve dont have much expectations from subclub rn. I’m just going thru the motions. I’m treating it like hit or miss. I’m glad it worked noticeably for other people.

Sounds like you going through the subliminal bloom mate, its in the manual haha. Under 4.8 or something? It was about combining SC with other things.

When you lower the loops of SC or replace it with something else the execution starts and reconciliation stops so you start seeing all the crazy results you were actually getting, but it often happens that people misattribute this to other stuff. Paraphrasing here of course.

[mvargo]

@Phoermes

I could offer an insightful book or two if you’re interested.

I would love some book recommendations

I’m two and a half weeks into Alchemist st. 1 after i tried to jump directly to st. 4 (and failed miserably) some time ago.

Right now I’m plowing through material and trying out stuff that I like (everything from Golden Dawn Magick to Gallary of Magic to Mantak Chia to my notes from old Vipassana retreats), but I would be very excited to hear what has worked for you - you as well @OldChap.

[SubliminalUser]

Despite spiritual inclinations that I’ve had for a while, I’ve not run Alchemist due to having only vague expectations of the end result. This thread is enlightening, yet I feel that completing DR (set to happen at the end of this month) will be sufficient for most, if not everything.

[Phoermes]

Collected Works of Ramana Maharishi. Emphasis on his Self-Inquiry work, its the best way to self-realization and breaking away from the illusions of the traumatized egomind.

I Am That, Prior to Consciousness, Consciousness and the Absolute by Nisargadatta Maharaj

Silence of the Heart by Robert Adams

Atma Bodha and Vivekachoodamani by Shankaracharya

The classics such as:
Yoga Vasistha
Upanishads
Ashtavakra Gita

The Tao

The Tao of Pooh

Works of Rumi - The man had an insane devotional love of God, and its one method used to reach a higher state

Its all eastern teachings as its what I have been working with this past while and resonated higher with than most. I received the most benefit with those one. Also worked with some magickal studies, shamanism, alchemy here and there, and some other traditional teachings, but not religiously.

I’ve bolded the books that I feel are most beneficial overall.

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Some Magick and philosophy

On Becoming an Alchemist* by Catherine MacCoun
The Seven Faces of Darkness* by Don Webb (Typhonian Magick)
A Secret History of Consciousness* by Gary Lachman
Cosmos and History* by Mircea Eliade
Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
Psychology of Man’s Possible Evolution by P.D. Ouspensky
The Nine Doors of Midgard* by Edred Thorsson
The Chocolate War* by Robert Cormier

[Sub.Zero]

@Phoermes

Of course I got many other benefits such as:

• Accelerated energy levels,
• An indomitable sense of well being and that everything will be and is going to be better than I may be believing at any moment,
• Annihilation of the negative thoughts, behaviors and beliefs
• Compassion and love, I am unable to feel hate as I used to, and its taking quite an effort to do so, even then, its more of a temporarily kind of thing
• Intuition
• Effortless observations of the trains of thought and a strong will to not buy a ticket for a ride
• Deeper understanding of reality.
• Better control over emotions, especially anger in its extreme colors
• Fantastic awareness of the world and the illusions that I had clanged on to
• A sense of sadness over other souls strictly abiding in bondage (no the fun kind)
• Elimination of all that was ailing my advancement, on all levels
• Dissociation with the false self and realization of the absolute light within

@Sub.Zero

Just great! Especially Stage 4 although I’ve been running it for 3 weeks only and there are almost 3 months ahead. It’s made me way calmer and in control of my emotional side. When I feel a rush of anger I can easily manage it. I’ve become detached from people’s negativity and understood that most of them are victims of their conditioning an cannot help the way they are… I kinda pity them from time to time. I’ve got more mature and more align with myself and my philosophy/spirituality of life too. My energy level has gone through the roof.

If you compare Phoermes results with mine you can see lots of similarities. Yup, guys, Alchemist builds the best foundation for successful life just after your healing has been done (the Dragon or Regeneration). Bare in mind, that what the sells page says about Alchemist improving manifestations is not a joke as it’s obvious that your improved energy levels help you generate more powerful manifestations.

I think the next natural step (after the Dragon and Alchemist) would be rebooting your body and brain using QL + Paragon. I believe QL improves your ability to find more and better paths of manifestations and healing your body would strengthen it that should help energy and mental power wise.

[scarecrow]

I have dealt with my chakra’s over the years, but never considered subliminal approach, I did the imagination looking at each one, and tearing one by one them open and bringing white energy drawn from my feet and pulled into each chakra. By the time I reach my heart chakra, I fell into a trance and passed out! It’s weird, when the energy centers are blocked when astral projecting whatever is blocked on mine I am stuck like glue there and if I try to pull apart it hurts like a mother. I will have to look at the modules for the chakra’s or close to it. I know from experience these are vitally important when activating OBE’s.