Mini loop duration question

Potentially missing some effects for a few cycles > getting less effects overall because of recon, overload and lack of action caused by the load.

You won’t need to microloop forever anyway, there will be a time where you’ll eventually feel comfortable using longer loops.

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Fair enough, but both can be achieved if timestamps are given. anyways, I’ve read that 3-5 minutes covers the entire script so I’ll just go with that

Don’t overthink it to much.
Just trust the process.
As far as I know, we don’t have the slightest clue how the subs are structured.
Is the script just repeated for 15 minutes? Is there focus on special parts? Like do they repeat some parts after the first full exposure?
Is there overlapping?
I don’t know anything about the structure.

And honestly, I don’t care at all.

I trust @Fire, I trust @SaintSovereign, I trust their work and their research.

When they say start slow and keep increasing exposure until you feel recon or the famous sweetspot, than I’ll do just that.

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I must be missing something because isn’t that the point? To get the full script? I’m not being argumentative. I’m legitimately curious. Does this apply to a title someone is just starting? The 15 second loops?

The way you & @SaintSovereign are doing things is honestly forcing me to rethink everything I thought I knew about subliminals and self improvement. That’s a compliment to you all.

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Honestly I do as well even if I do question things at times.

@Fire @SaintSovereign I do have one other question.

From the listening instructions :slight_smile:

If you’re listening to a single Zero Point title, the pattern is exceptionally easy:

Listen to 1-2 loops of the title, then take the next day off. Do this for roughly three weeks / 21 days then take five days off. That’s it. To illustrate:

  • Day 1: 1-2 loops
  • Day 2: Rest
  • Day 3: 1-2 loops
  • Day 4: Rest "

How does this work if a person is running microloops?

Please understand, I’m not trying to beat you down or win some kind of argument - this is legitimately how a lot of wrong ideas start and it’s important to point it out right in the beginning. We’ve had to deal with stuff like this before and are now very experienced in getting ahead of potential issues.

If we don’t, someone who doesn’t know better is going to see this and go “oh I guess that makes sense” and start running with it, spreading it and eventually we’ll have 200 support tickets to deal with about how microloops are “inaccurate and thus ineffective.”

The truth is, that is far from being the case and has nothing to do with optimal listening. We’ve put in an incredible amount of work to ensure this is as easy as possible for you guys, and we still are - so when we say “just do this”, it’s for a reason.

Case in point.

Is the point to “get the full script” or to improve your life, get better results and change who you are?

Focus on taking action, journaling and deep introspection. Let us worry about the script length and the build.

Microloop on those days until the sweet spot.

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This is correct.

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IIRC, these instructions are old, from the beginning of ZP.
Listening to just 15 minutes instead of hours a day was rather New.

Microloops are a rather new discovery.

And AFAIK they are working on new listening instructions right now.

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OK. So start with fifteen seconds and then increase by five or ten seconds until the sweet spot is hit?

Last question about this I hope. That may be two questions

I recall Saint mentioning that. I realize microloops are a newer thing. I was just looking for clarification

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Just ran fifteen seconds of Genesis-Mogul. I will run fifteen seconds of Index Gate on Saturday.

fair enough

I am not going to lie. I don’t understand how this works but I will do as instructed.

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You can probably start with 1-3 minutes since you’ve been running longer for awhile now. Then, find your sweet spot by monitoring results vs. recon. Some people will not need microloops. I, however, HAVE to use this strategy or I find myself lost in recon. It’s the only way we can make stronger and more effective titles. We wouldn’t recommend microloops if we didn’t think you could benefit from them greatly.

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Thank you. I will start with one minute of the two titles in my stack and go from there.

The biggest issue is that people automatically assume that “more is better,” which as we’ve said multiple times, that isn’t necessarily the base. Sometimes, a “gentle push” is far more beneficial and enjoyable than a “hard push.” People have a tendency to treat running full loops vs. microloops as some kind of “challenge” rather than what it is – what is more effective.

Obviously, I understand the concept of wanting to push through obstacles faster, but remember that changing something too fast could also cause destabilization in anything that you’re changing. Same concept as going to the gym and trying to lift weights heavier than you are capable of doing. Can destroy entire chains of muscles in your body.

Now, since we were going to reveal this in the new instruction manual anyway – Zero Point powered subliminals have “break points” in all the scripts that contain the totality of the whole, but within that one section, and the following “break points” build upon the last. In essence, each ZP title is a mini-four stager. So, to start out with a microloop and focus on that while building up over time, is MUCH MUCH more effective than trying to do the entire whole at once.

TADA. The “secret” of microloops, which as we said – was based upon practicality, and not any kind of mysticism or forbbiden techniques. Nothing but pure innovation. This method allows anyone to get benefit from a title, regardless of whether they run the full thing or not.

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This is in both ZP V2 and ZPV2 Max?

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So basically the whole script is repeated 4 times within the full ZP loop, with each consecutive repetition/breakpoint being a reinforcement?

Did I understand that correctly

This has been in Zero Point since it started. Remember, the first version of Zero Point had a “Primer” and then a “Flow” section. We just removed the primer because it was taking precedence over the rest of the scripting.

EDIT: We tell as much as we can – I would’ve thought that someone would’ve remembered this and came to the conclusion that the script was split up in discrete – but interlinked and in a unified manner.

Without giving away the entire process, yes – this is basically the idea. But, I wouldn’t say the entire script is repeated 4 times. More like, themes building upon themes. That’s about as far as I’m willing to disclose. One could greatly, greatly benefit from just running the first section, as usually, it’s very powerful in its own right and could actually lead to better results.

There is more to how it works, but we’re sharing the basic concept so people can wrap their heads around how it works, as the new instruction manual will be coming very soon.

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That’s good enough for me haha.

I’ll keep listening to my 3-5 min loops, and slowly expand upon listening times, so I can get those themes building upon themes down the line :slight_smile:

Looking forward to it!

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