Main Disc. Thread - Khan Black: The Crucible (Custom Core Now Available!)

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#2401

Now I’m here after my four week complete washout.

I was fostering how to continue. I’ve done ten months of KB in total: 2*(St1+St2+St3)+4*St4.
And I really was unsure how I should continue. I would love to keep KB as a part of my stack. On the other hand, I also want to explore some of the new releases and already have a three title stack with KB and two customs. Quite heavy, I always did microloops (3min) and sticked to the recommended three-title-listening pattern.

What can I say about Khan Black? Just a quick check with the goals:

  • initiates an intense healing process, targeting and repairing any traumas, insecurities, or limiting beliefs surrounding your sexual energy and sexuality
    → 5/5 on stage 1! It literally had solved a rather major sexual hangup of mine within the very first cycle.

  • profound cleansing and purifying of your energetic channels, ensuring that your sexual energy can flow freely and without obstruction
    → 4/5 on stage 2. My Qi Gong practices became easier during this time, so I contribute this to stage 2.

  • strengthens your energetic channels, particularly the sexual ones, enabling you to handle and direct the immense sexual energy that will course through your body
    → 3,5/5 on stage 2 and 3. Not quite sure about this one. I did notice though that I was and still am able to separate my orgasm from the actual ejaculation, meaning I can have an orgasm during sex without ejaculating right away. I know one way to do this with physical pressure on the base of you p*nis when having an orgasm, but that does not really work for me because it only delays ejaculation for a few seconds. KB does a better job at this and I consider this quite huge. Why only 3,5/5 stars then? Because besides from actual sex I couldn’t directly spot the proclaimed ability, but maybe it is just disguised for my eye (see the points about boosting efforts to achieve goals and usage alongside other subs below).

  • as your energetic channels become more robust, your charisma, magnetism, and presence will grow, increasing your influence and attractiveness
    → 3/5: I’ve always been charismatic, I’ve done my research about it before; I’ve also developed my attractiveness beforehand. But KB sure didn’t hurt in this department.

  • cultivating vast amounts of sexual energy
    → 5/5 on stage 3: yes, it really does and it is amazing! Unfortunatelly this subsided on stage 4. It didn’t really make me very horny - because of stages 1 and 2 I did not need to use porn/masturbation as a valve for my sexual energy, and also because of… [see below]

  • can be used to boost your efforts in achieving your goals or strengthening your energetic aspects, depending on your personal preferences and aspirations
    → 4/5: it really helped me to work on my creative goals as musician. All the extra energy that I had could be directed into my musical ventures.

  • can be used alongside other subliminals such as Mogul or Sage Immortal, unlocking powerful synergistic effects
    → 5/5: absolutely. I did use all of the four stages alongside my two customs (music (UE + MEye) and leadership (Chosen+OG Stark)). I feel that it fueled them nicely. They are very focused but still quite heavy two core + 18 modules customs and I could pull them off easily. They also are very aligned with my goals.

  • challenges you to confront and overcome your deepest fears, insecurities, and limitations regarding sexuality, sexual expression, and sexual energy
    3/5: still working on this and one reason why I want to continue with KB.

  • develops mastery within you that allows you greater control and precision over your sexual energy and it’s transformative powers
    3,5-4/5: yes, see above.

  • naturally develops your energetic sensitivity
    3,5-4/5: probably, but I feel that I should use Alchemist that I bought as one of my very first subs, when it is updated, to get a more comprehensive grasp on this.

How am I going to continue? I started today with newLB and newSanguine on a two-stack cycle and hope to focus more on myself, because during the last year I worked quite hard and I had to pay some toll regarding my health, so I’m cutting back on this behalf and will elevate myself through self love and self care. Hopefully my relationship with myself, people and life itself will really benefit from this.

Later on I’m sure I will redo the KB cyclus, with all four stages. Maybe I’m then building a custom with nLB and nSanguine, we’ll see how they go as major titles.

Thanks for reading and big thanks to Fire and Saint for this truly life altering and enhancing title.

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#2402

could you share your experience on that ？I never wash that long…I am curious what will happen during that time，I know it will be deeper integration ，better execution and etc…what is the time frame of all that ？ :grinning: also congratulations for your success ！！！

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#2403

Could this mean, that your subconscious is prioritizing content from other stages? EG that there’s still trauma left that needs healing?

Did you ever run full loops or at least longer loops of all the stages?
Perhaps that would help. Saint recently explained, that each title is built like a mini fourstager it self. So if you only ever listened to the first 3 minutes, you’ve probably never reached stage 2, not to speak of 3 or 4 of each stage.
Since each substage builds on the previous one and deepens the effect, I could imagine, that building up to full loops might bring better results.

I’ve listened to stage 1 for 2 cycles with 3 minute loops. Minimal results. For the third cycle I went straight to full loops. And bam, the results I’ve yearned for.
I wouldn’t recommend going straight to full loops (I had 2 cycles of 3 min loops to build up momentum), but since you’ve listened to KB for 10 cycles, perhaps one cycle where you crank it up? Perhaps step by step?

I’ve just re-read your entries and I do understand you. My first hunch was just start from stage 1 again. But then, I know, that I feel a bit limited with my stack being fixed for 4 months.

Or perhaps you could run microloops of KB4 every other week to keep it working in your system?
Of course that would be experimental.

@Answergroup
If run long enough, will stage 4 ever bring the same amount of energy stage 3 delivers?
Or will the other stages always have precedence?

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#2404

Sure.

I did neither. Started with Subclub in February 2023. The first three months were just playing around with many titles, trying them out and getting a feel for it. Started getting serious in April 2023 with my first long term custon (the music one), then added KB in June and the second custom in August. Always did the five day rest after each cycle.

That’s simple: life goes on. And I’m serious about that.

You’ll get this with any kind of activity or engagement that you commit to over a longer period of time. It can be sports, work (especially on projects), music, studying, literally anything. You always need a balance between activity and recovery. On a day to day basis, weekly, monthly and so on. After a while (for me, it is usually around ten to twelve months) you just get the feeling that it is too much, that you need to rest and leave it all behind, to really unwind. And then you do just that. Stop doing what you focused on during the last season/project/year, whatever you call it, and enjoying life. I don’t know what’s happening during washout on a subconcious/biological/physical level but I did feel the veil of recon lifting after two weeks. The recon was so imperceptible that I wasn’t aware of it during my listening times, only close to the end of my last two cycles I got the feeling that I wished, the cycles were over. I still sticked to my planned schedule because I generally don’t base my decisions on my feelings (at least not the small decisions). Then I got some great insights about questions that I was pondering on during my listening time. I don’t dwell on unsolved questions, I’m a researcher and do know from experience that solutions will arise at times when one doesn’t expect them and I’ve never been able to force an outcome, I just got stuck when trying this in my younger years. Now after four weeks I think that I’m ready for new input because everything now feels natural and genuine.

Thanks.

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#2405

Don’t know. I don’t like the idea of healing one’s traumas. I don’t pathologize my life. Maybe I can tell you more when I’m done with my second round of KB.

No never. I tried it with my customs and felt overload. Can you point out the explanation of Saint you’re refering to? I’ve never seen this concept.

Thanks for these ideas. I’ll think about them when the times has come to do so.

#2406

That was just one example of the objection the earlier stages. You cam use any for this explanation.

This whole thread turned to a goldmine. Give it read. They revealed a lot about how subs work.

#2407

@Vinci Is KB still undefeated or has NEW Khan or any updated sub dethroned KB in this regard?

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#2408

Highly subjective.
From the bunch
I passively attract, I guess that what he means, much more from RoTN and Wanted Black ex-aequo. I mean women approaching me.
New Khan, jury still out there.

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#2409

KB experience undefeated till this day

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#2410

Yup same here. Saw major IOI’s on ZP with KB. Hoping to see this effect with New Wanted.

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#2411

thank you for you detail reply…. :grinning:

#2412

@x3m thank you for sharing your experiences!

What I am wondering is, is it valuable to run through all four stages of Khan Black if the objective is to make romance subs like PS and SSX run better? Or is that basically served through one run of ST1? I am thinking about my stack plans for the long term (which involve a lot of romance subs) and so want to see whether KB beyond ST1 has meaning for my goals which are decidedly non-spiritual (at least in a conventional sense).

#2413

All stages of KB help to reach these goals.
Especially stage 3 is known to skyrocket your sexual energy which in turn fuels your attraction, aura and other subs.

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#2414

just finished my second cycle of KB st4…I went through the previous stage one by one….I could easily differentiate the effects between KB1/2/3 or something else from my stack….but KBst4 is bit different…I can not clearly tell what is there…I know KBst4 includes all previous stages，I assume it has something more …？what will those features be ？ people who use the KBst 4，care to shed some light on me ？thanks…. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

#2415

No :slight_smile:

I felt the same way haha

I did 2-3 cycles of each stage up to Stage 4, then 2-3 cycles of Stage 4 as well, and I had the same exact experience.

On the previous stages I could tell what effect KB was having on me, but on Stage 4 I couldn’t pinpoint it. I knew something was happening but I couldn’t figure out WHAT exactly it was.

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#2416

The potential benefits from running KB go way beyond making romance subs work better. There is A ton of value in running all 4 stages.

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#2417

@AnswerGroup @SaintSovereign @Fire care to share ？

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#2418

If you want complete utter breakdown run both khan stage 1 and khan black stage 1.

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#2419

Well, I’ve decided.

I’m joining both Khan Black and Khan families :slight_smile:

Wish me luck!

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#2420

Good luck man!
I am about to start “Meet the Blacks” cycle in a few minutes:
WB/KBst1 (4th cycle of WB & 1st cycle of KB).
WB down to 7mins (was 15mins for 2 and a half cycles), KBst1 3mins.
I hope my brain will not explode :rofl:

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