Budewr’s journal

[Budewr]

sure man i will do,

and i think i know whats coming with this washout

lots of frustration, lol

my first washout was like hell with getting mad at anything,

so i will do my best with taking action even though its gonna be a tough ride,
but waiting for the storm to end to sail is not a good option id say,

so surely if nothing improves in the washout ill definitely be concerned and very curios about my situation

i even re-downloaded the emperor file lol, i thought maybe theres a glitch or i downloaded a corrupted file and its behind the reason im not seeing improvement hahahah

[Budewr]

things are going fine with the washout no frustration nothing unusual but no bloom too

still early though to judge but its been 4 days i think, ill go for 2 weeks maybe 3

[Budewr]

last couple of days ive been finding it a bit hard to fall asleep,

but when i wake up the sleep quality is good,.

those are weird washout symptoms hmmmmmmmmmm

also lots of dreams , good indicator

last washout was hell with sleep

i would wake up tired as hell like i was a zombie
And also i felt super angry and frustrated at the 5th day, on the last washout i did

its almost been a week, lets see whats up .

[Budewr]

Went to the gym and i felt some confidence something out of the ordinary id say, but not too obvious

[Budewr]

the joy and fulfillment of music came back to me, this washout i guess was necessary

i will not run any Q’s than emperor even after the washout, until i see some progress that im looking for

till now the air is clear no turbulence

[Meng123]

Hmm,just to check with you.Are you sure that emperor is the program you most want to be subconciously?Everyone has programs that just doesnt gel with their subconcious and cant seem to get results from.I have a friend who cant get any results from spartan/stark no matter how long he tried to run them.Which was weird since he seemed to fit the stark archetype perfectly.Hes doing great with emperor though.This seems to be becoming more prominent with qzp where it will guide you away from the sub if it doesnt fit you subconciously but yeah just something to think about cause dont want you to be stuck in one place.Choice is always yours

Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental)

Here’s an example: We have two testers. One, a young individual who is very fit and fashionable. Another who fits the mental alchemist archetype and has been married for a long time. They have had vastly different experiences on WANTED ZP. The young man immediately began expressing the script in it entirety, quoting a lot of the script back to us and getting amazing results. The alchemist type hasn’t seen a lot of external results, but is experiencing interesting insights as he delves deeper i…

Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental)

Yes, exactly. And what’s even more interesting about ZP is how differently everyone’s experiences are, and yet… intertwined, as you can easily tell that they’re all taking the same journey, but walking different paths. It’s like Morpheus told Neo: “There’s a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.” The end goal is to become more WANTED, or “I want to be pursued and chased by women rather than the other way around,” and that’s pretty much what the script tries to express. What…

[Budewr]

@Meng123

Hmm,just to check with you.Are you sure that emperor is the program you most want to be subconciously?

hey man, im not sure subconsciously, but consciously yes i want Emperor its a life changer if it works

idk, isnt like the whole premise with sub programs is just to choose what you desire to be? and what benefits and lacks you the most? thats why i choose emperor

i get your idea, but i have a theory, that the more resistance to a sub the longer time it will take (bad childhood beliefs that is against emperor goals ) , saint said he had some issues with alpha subs im not sure if he meant emperor or which exactly but he said it took him 8 months.

tbh im not willing to wait 8 months this is gonna suck ass so hard hahahah,

i feel more like stark, im more social i love people and i like socializing, but Stark is a bonus maybe for fun, but it worked amazing for me, stark was super fast and effective could see it in weeks

the real deal to greatness for me is emperor from what i read , it targets all my weakpoints, thats why i choose it

also i have another theory that my subconscious wants me to lose hope on Emperor with me being unhappy with my results with it, so i would drop it, cause it knows that Emperor will shake the hell out of my old habits and the beliefs that i hold and the weakpoints, since the submind has a lot of defense mechanisms

and i think it doesn’t just stop responding to a sub cause it doesnt fit your type or anything, it stops cause it wants to stop, cause theres lots of resistance to it, that the old beliefs wants to live

thats my theory or how i think things are, im doing a washout, hoping to clear stuff up so i can start over and i really really dont want to drop Emperor, this thing feels right you know?

for how many months did your friend run Stark for?

[Budewr]

@Meng123

Everyone has programs that just doesnt gel with their subconcious and cant seem to get results

also do you know any other examples on the forum? other than your friend?

i know the example of @SaintSovereign that he told me about,

also im open that it might be an issue with like scripting and that not everyone receives and accepts the scripting the same way, and some people might take longer time than others

but i agree with you @Meng123 a 3 month period, raises a question if this sub fits me or not, thanks for the comment my friend i will take it into more thoughts after the washout and putting some time after the washout of listening

[Meng123]

He did spartan for 6 in a custom,stark he ran for 3 also in a custom but he didnt get any of the normal effects from those so he gave up on those 2 programs because he figures they just dont fit him for some reason.He actually got reverse recon from spartan.It made him exercise less.Didnt go away till he used rebirth ultima but he still didnt get the intended effects. So far the best programs for him have been ascended mogul and now emperor.He gets results from subs just not certain ones.The one i dont get results from is ascension weirdly enough.I ran it for 3 months in a custom but didnt get anything from it till i started running it with rebirth ultima.Thats another option you could try.Emperor and ascension really dont gel well with me though even with rebirth ultima.Become a lot more volatile emotionally.Medici,stark,primal seduction are my best fits so far.Wanted is also pretty good but very energy consuming.Need to eat alot to use it.We figure that its just that something in our past is blocking their execution which is why rebirth ultima helped but still didnt gel well.
Sigma11 cant get results from anything so unsure on him but hes stuck with it even longer than you

Ascension + Regeneration + PCC not working

Hey all, it’s been almost 3 months since I have been running those 3 subs. I ran each one each day, with 1 loop before bed and 1 after waking up. Before buying those 3 which are my first subs from here, I read a lot on the forums before deciding to go with those. Almost all recommended ascension because of its light scripting and quick results from masculinity, standing up for yourself, general alpha traits to eradicating the nice guy syndrome. Unfortunately I don’t know and with great disap…

Main Disc. Thread - Dragon Reborn Multistage + Ultima

That’s the thing, while others who run DR feel at least something (pain of some sorts, difficulty emotionally, or something else) I don’t feel anything. Since running it from December up to now, each stage for 45-60 days I have not felt anything. I will take what @elementary_vision said into account and if this continues like this up untill st4 I won’t bother with DR anymore.

Openmind gets good results from subs but cant get daredevil to work for him.He was using it to fix his social weaknesses though so maybe just too much resistance to the script from past experiences

Openmind - DaredevilQ + RebirthU

Just to finalize this log, it was another failure, I just don’t work with daredevil for some reason. I tried it twice now and I just feel like shit. I’ve been back on the subliminals using rebirth U on day 1, 3, 5 with PCCQ on day 1,2,3,4,5, taking day 6,7 off, doing that for 2 weeks, then substituting PCCQ with EQ for 2 weeks. Seems pretty good although EQ makes me a bit of a phsyco. I am productive as hell but not very nice or friendly even to my own family and I just don’t give a shit. Today…

As for others,alot of people program hop when they feel a program isnt right/working for them or they feel another program is better or fits the person they are now better so most dont stick to a program thats not working for long periods of time so a bit harder to find lots of examples.I have a bad habit of jumping programs too cause of fomo.

[Meng123]

Hmm,i see subs more as rather than changing to something that your completely not just because you think you should be which your subconcious will hate.Build and use subs to become the best version of your current self.This will be even more important in QZP than now since you subconcious will let you know if its not what it wants

[Psiklou]

To be fair, if you read the first threads from old members that are having good results now, they had fewer choice of subs but they were still hoping subs as much.

I also think there is a process of conscious / subconscious alignment or personal inclination alignement with the subs’ sub-goals or philosophy, more than “foundation” to be worked: there are here several examples of resourceless people (no money, no job, living at parents) who just did great with “hard” subs such as Emperor.

[Meng123]

Hmm,thats also true but not all the old members had good results with emperor including me when i tried it but it was the only one available originally and found stark was better when it came out because it was more aligned with their goals/personality.Now we have alot more programs and archetypes available so its easier to pick programs that are aligned.Its true that alignment is very important in how fast results come though and how much resistance pops up.Saints been saying that since the early days.

@SaintSovereign

Custom programs are superior to Major Titles in almost every way IF you’re completely honest with yourself about your shortcomings and you take the time to build a custom that will alleviate those issues. Everyone keeps focusing on things like density, when I keep saying that density is less important than correctly identifying your issues and coming up with a game plan to attack them with subliminals.

For example, Blue Skies Ultima is relatively short, and yet it’s extremely hard for me to run. @RVconsultant, however, seems to have little issue running it and doesn’t experience the same traumatic reconciliations that I get. @DarkPhilosopher seems to go into a robot-like state and retreats from the world, but doesn’t get the emotional pain part. Same short title, three different responses.

The custom wealth subliminal I built awhile back is MASSIVE, pushing the boundaries of our technology and I very rarely get the depressive, emotionally painful reconcilation that I’ve experienced on other titles. This sub has incredibly lofty goals, so I can imagine that it’d cause some serious issues with people who aren’t ready.

Instead of focusing on density, focus on how aligned you are with the goals and what mental / emotional shortcomings you have in regards to that issue. If you’ve had problems with talking to women / men / whomever in a romantic fashion, even a short aura subliminal like Libertine will cause issues. If your life is very much in tune with the notion of generating wealth, then you may not have an issue running an incredibly dense sub that deals with wealth.

[Psiklou]

@SaintSovereign

Custom programs are superior to Major Titles in almost every way IF you’re completely honest with yourself about your shortcomings and you take the time to build a custom that will alleviate those issues. Everyone keeps focusing on things like density, when I keep saying that density is less important than correctly identifying your issues and coming up with a game plan to attack them with subliminals

I must admit I have read this Saint’s post before but did not get it until you put all in perspective.

[Budewr]

@Meng123

He did spartan for 6 in a custom,stark he ran for 3 also in a custom but he didnt get any of the normal effects from those so he gave up on those 2 programs because he figures they just dont fit him for some reason.He actually got reverse recon from spartan.It made him exercise less.

holy shit 6 months is a long time with no results yikes,

@Meng123

he one i dont get results from is ascension weirdly enough.I ran it for 3 months in a custom but didnt get anything from it till i started running it with rebirth ultima

i mean this seems to be an issue that some users experience. me and others you mentioned down the thread and your friend, and also you with AM

Can you guys please Dig into this issue? @SaintSovereign @Fire @RVconsultant @DarkPhilosopher

@Meng123

We figure that its just that something in our past is blocking their execution which is why rebirth ultima helped but still didnt gel well.

yeah thats what i think too, but isnt if a sub facing lots of resistance and almost no results, that means that this sub will yank the junk in your sub-conscious and thats a good sign that this sub will improve your life 180 degrees?

i know the lack of results sucks man, i feel like crap that 3 months went like nothing and im not pleased or happy about my progress

but if im going with subs , my main goal is evolve and destroy the hell out of my weakpoints that is literally stopping me from reaching my full potential.

the priorities are the blockages and thus you choose a program that freaks them up like i did choose mine (Emperor in my case) and that sub is surely not doing what is supposed to do

[Budewr]

@Meng123

Hmm,i see subs more as rather than changing to something that your completely not just because you think you should be which your subconcious will hate

yeah but based on your consciousness and your awareness and knowledge of the fundamentals of life and how it works

you need certain aspects and traits to develop the best version of yourself!

i mean surely everyone’s subconscious hate to wake up early at 5 am instead of 10 am. but if the subconscious hates it, it doesnt always mean that its right?

or hates the pain of the comfort zone or the feeling of self discipline and the not very pleasant feeling of pushing the boundaries

but those skills are almost Mandatory for achieving the good life, and becoming the best version of yourself,

and those skills are almost all about Emperor from what i read (not experienced )

i mean stark works like a charm for me, within a couple of days i can sense my social skills going up the roof, but will stark be the best option for me to develop the greater life that i want to achieve ?

i think not based on my vision, emperor would be better because what i lack is mainly focused on subs like AM or Emperor

and the fact that im not seeing progress tells me something also lol,

but i totally understand moving out of a way of a sub, if its not working. and going for the results that you had on other programs, damn i miss stark’s confidence or social aspects

but in order to live a fulfilling life for me i think i need to focus on my blockages and weakpoints

hell im thinking about ditching emperor lol, after testing after the washout and going back to stark

cause i really dont want to play subs for 6+ months with no progress that is literally useless ,

but ill trust the process, im hoping that this washout will get me on track ill try upping the loops and go back to the old routine after a couple of weeks after the washout if things dont go on track

what i know for sure that i will do my best

[Budewr]

an inspiring post

Qv2 experiences, comments, insights and questions

I had that in the first 6 months until I lisen to Ascension. Somehow I wasn’t ready to grow. Ascension realy opened the doors for me

what im thinking is, what if the more resistance that you face and lack of results means, that this could be your compass into what to follow up with more to find the root, nothing is a coincidence its happening because of something whether someone knows or not

but i understand hahhahah lack of results are shit

[TheDerpinator]

i cant remember who it was but a few days ago someone mentioned that on emperor he didnt see to many results for almost 2 years (due to him being almost the exact opposite type as emperor). But than after that time a switch flipped and he suddenly got extreme results and it kept getting better and better. If youre really dedicated and can beat the fomo, its still very much possible. with QZP on the horizon you really shouldnt have much to worry about ones that comes out.

[Budewr]

@TheDerpinator

i cant remember who it was but a few days ago someone mentioned that on emperor he didnt see to many results for almost 2 years

2 years damnnnnnn i cant do that lol, thats extreme

Plan B for me if Plan A doesn’t work is ill go back to starkQ for a year or something , then ill come back to emperor Later

with emperor, even my stack is not showing results, so Emperor must be the issue

Like i ran QLST1 and QLST2 and didnt notice anything at all, but i ran them with Emperor,

[Meng123]

The 2 year one

How dense was Emperor for you?

I ran Emperor after I ran Ascended Mogul stacked with Rebirth. While the effects of Asc. Mogul were fast and the effect of Rebirth were almost immediate, it took me a little bit over 2 years to notice obvious effects of Emperor. But those effects are deep and keep on getting stronger. I believe that it all depends on where you start from. I was the furthest thing from an Alpha male (and I still have a long way to go). The sub had more work to do on me than on anyone else. I should also factor in…

[ksub]

@Budewr

2 years damnnnnnn i cant do that lol, thats extreme

Do you want Emperor results or not? To me the journey is worth it. 2 years is nothing compared to the 30 + years I was internally screwed.

@Budewr

even my stack is not showing results, so Emperor must be the issue

It also depends on where you’re starting from. I saw fast results with Ascended Mogul. But the reality Emperor is trying to create was completely foreign to me. You can’t go from 0 to 100 in a few months. If you’re not seeing results, it doesn’t mean that the sub is not working. It is, you just can’t see it yet. Jumping from one sub to the next one isn’t going to help you much though. Consistency is key here. Emperor is trying to help you reorganize your identity from top to bottom and turn you into an imperial powerful version of yourself. Certainly not going to happen overnight or in a few months.