Just keep in mind that subs induce what’s called recon, which is nothing more than stress energy arising from shifts beyond what our psychosomatic system can handle, leading to inner physical contraction.
TRE, on the other hand, releases stress energy and improves pendulation in a way that fosters further expansion and growth.
In other words, causing contraction by inducing stress energy through subs while simultaneously trying to release that stress energy through TRE might confuse the entire system — and could even be perilous. Be careful, mate.
I assume you want to do that to improve your subliminal results. Well, there are plenty of other things you can do that are safer and more effective than trying to figure out a combination like the one you’re talking about.
I do TRE 3–4 hours after running my stack, and I reap great benefits.
This is not quite correct. When I said recon = stress, that was only one facet of recon – the lived and noticeable experience from the conflict between the ideal and that which exists. The somatic response to recon is unique to every individual, it is not uniform in the slightest. It is simply how a person deals with stress. It is important to notice that some people carry stress in the jaw, legs, throat, stomach, and some people don’t react somatically at all and it remains largely a mental / emotional phenomenon.
What we’re talking about here is stress management, not recon management. Recon requires resolution through inner engagement, expressed outwardly as “taking action.” When the ideal and the reality do not match, that conflict must be resolved or reconciled.
So yes, while recon can reflect into the body as somatic stress, and that stress can be partially alleviated through stretching, Yoga, Qigong, etc., the recon itself must be resolved through conscious action. The conscious mind must seize control of subconscious impulses and redirected toward the ideal. This is what truly resolves (or reconciles) the discrepancy between ideal and reality.
In other words, physical tension is the symptom of mental tension as they reflect each other. This is partially why people believe that resolving the physical tension will alleviate the mental tension, but the whole picture isn’t being grasped. It is not that these modalities inherently resolve the mental tension completely, but rather alleviates the bodily tension which allows the mental aspect to operate with a bit more clarity. And yet, the recon will persist, because the core issue – again, a discrepancy between the ideal and the reality – still remains.
You cannot stretch your way into becoming a millionaire. You cannot stretch your way into finding a soulmate. You cannot stretch your way into whatever the ideal is. You must become the ideal. Running a seduction sub and spending your entire focus on releasing tension from the body will not lead to success. It will actually lead into even more recon as you continue to run a title loaded with information about being out and about with attractive people.
While I enjoy reading these threads and watching people help each other, at the end of the day, this is still treating recon as some kind of symptom that must be eliminated rather than harnessed. Recon very much is information, like everything. Information that if one learns to understand, they will become exceptionally powerful because they can directly see the source of recon and can easily overcome it. In other words, you use the recon to fuel growth efforts.
The real question when experiencing recon is “why am I experiencing such a reaction to such a positive script?” This is why we started listed the “tools” in each title. It allows the individual to go through each feature and monitor their emotional response. Once the emotional trigger is identified, the individual can then take conscious action to alleviate it – and yes, stretching and relaxation can be part of that. But the core issue is still within.
As we observe the results of the anti-recon scripting, we see things like going for walks in the sun, cleaning up their work and living spaces (which I experienced just the other day, where spending a few hours deep cleaning resolved recon), listening to music, doing nothing, eating a good meal, etc. As much as we’d all like to think we can see a “pattern” here, that pattern would be inaccurate, because there’s no way to accurately predict how an individual can resolve their recon and thus the anti-recon scripting helps the user discover how to alleviate recon in their own manner. There is no single “universal” method that resolves recon.
Given that everyone is analyzing that which we have already achieved (diminished recon, actions that can resolve recon, recon resolving in real time), we personally see no reason to move in a different direction, or to impose any kind of control within the scripts, as the outward expression of the anti-recon is the individual’s natural response whether they realized it or not. I personally would’ve never linked deep cleaning my bathroom with the recon I was experiencing, but nonetheless, that is what occurred.
So again, recon cannot be limited to the somatic effects, as that is the outward expression of recon and not the source of recon itself. Recon is a natural phenomenon that occurs to most people everyday. Any time you have passed over for a promotion you thought you deserved, or dumped in a relationship you thought was solid, you experience reconciliation (the ideal does not match the reality), and this cannot be dealt with solely through the mechanism of alleviating bodily response.
Yes, I can’t disagree — recon doesn’t boil down to just its somatic dimension. However, I consider it the most prevalent form after introducing the newest anti-recon tech (excluding Earth), and in many people’s cases, even overwhelming.
In my case — and not only mine — it was (until GLM and Earth were recently released) mostly about somatic responses. Handling emotional recon used to be an issue for me before ZP; as far as I remember, when I was running Emperor, my girlfriend could easily drive me crazy.
The “somatic layer” of our system seems to be the most dominant. Therefore, taking care of it with Earth and TRE eliminated my usual trauma response, which used to be significantly amplified whenever I was in recon. Recon became mostly somatic after the introduction of the anti-recon tech.
On my current stack (including Earth), together with TRE, all I do is ease into the experience and let it unfold. Taking action aligned with the scripting now feels as natural as breathing, since the somatic obstacle I mentioned is no longer there to ‘make me feel incapable,’ disabling me. In other words, I’m somatically comfortable with the discomfort caused by taking action aligned with the scripting, so to speak.
One thing I noticed is that the act of resolving recon in the physical world can be as symbolic as processing things during dreams.
Or in other words, if you start seeing the whole physical world as nothing but a dream world too, then the strange ways and types of action that we sometimes do in order to resolve recon, start to make more sense. All of these actions are symbolic and conceptual representations of this recon resolve process.
This is the mindset of "none of the worlds (dream, physical, astral etc.) that I am experiencing, are actually objectively real, hence in ALL of these worlds the processing of things by my consciousness can happen in a symbolic and conceptual way.
The symbolic and conceptual processing appears in more crazy forms in the dream and astral worlds, because these worlds allow for more different things to happen. While in the physical world, only the things can happen that are allowed by the physical rules. Which is how we end up “flying with a pink pirate ship through a sea of lemon grass” in the dream world, while end up with just “cleaning our bathroom” in the physical.
It is only coming across as the most prevalent because it is the most obvious and easiest to identify. The New Subliminal Experience’s foundation is based upon unveiling or revealing to the individual all that is holding them back. Since the anti-recon scripting is based upon and expands the NSE, then naturally the first thing many people would realize is that there is a connection between the body and mind.
We actually began to research this around December of 2024, as can be seen here:
And the original version of the anti-recon scripting solely relied on alleviating somatic response. However, what we found during testing is exactly as I said. Only minimal “good results” in regards to lessening recon. But as we’ve always observed, not everyone responds in the same way. Some respond energetically to subliminal audio (subtle energy moving through the body), others are strongly somatic in the sense they need to stretch. Others need to move. To dance. To cry. To contain emotion.
There are an infinite number of responses, none more prevalent than the others. When doing this kind of analysis, one cannot lock onto an idea and “make it true.” By this, I am referring to the natural inclinations of most people when researching the topic of subliminal audio to create a narrative first and then confirm the narrative. In this situation, given that we have a lot of data and information on this, I can confidently say that there are an equal amount of people who don’t report somatic response as those who do.
I would also point out that somatic response was not something openly reported (we had to look very closely to see it) until this topic came into the open discussion, and now more people are reporting it. The issue with this is that now the data becomes inherently skewed, because people are aware and looking at it. In the past, what we considered a strong result is something that was not as openly stated and yet people picked up on it anyway.
This is more difficult to achieve with our current tools-based modality, in which the entire script is summarized and presented as various tools. Now, people are going to look for these things and report it more. We chose to provide the individual with more information, even if it meant that the subtle connections we used to look for would be diminished (we keep saying that with ZPU, you’ll understand how this works). We prepared for it.
Now, none of this diminishes the helpful role that strategies like TRE and the such plays. In fact, as you can see from the thread I posted, I would advocate for it. Strategies that release tension in the body are potentially (I am still undecided) one of the only things that I would openly state to mix with our subliminal audio.
However, what I’m discussing does affect the notion of prevalence, which – in my opinion – is a data point or metric. And when we do our analysis of results, there are strict controls to prevent “dirty data” from messing up the analysis. As I’ve said before, that is the true “secret” of Subliminal Club. @Fire and myself are extremely adapt at seeing subtle patterns and connections within large sets of disparate data and then drawing complex, yet precise conclusions.
Now, I don’t want anyone to think that I am being harsh on anyone. I am not. The strategies being discussed here have the potential to become extremely helpful. What’s happening is as many people use the cognitive enhancement titles, or through their own efforts without subs, they are now wanting to delve deep into their own Zero Point and learn how they truly work, with the title serving as a catalyst.
My only goal here is to inform, inspire and educate on the nature of Zero Point itself. When dealing with that subject – as someone who has done this for a long time – the only way you can find success is through universality. What are the things that truly link us together as people, what is the relationship between collective and individual?
And so, we observe the outer and seek deeper meaning. I gave this example before.
If I ask, what is this? Some of you will say a television. Others will say it’s entertainment. @Fire and I would say that is glamour and illusion – there is nothing that comes across this screen that is depicted exactly as it happened. It has been edited multiple times, color graded, reviewed by large teams of people who approve a certain message.
For us, the “mystery” of recon is hidden in what I just said, and thus we can respond accordingly if necessary.
EDIT: So yes, if everyone wants to work with TRE, the concepts of contraction, etc. that is being discussed here, please do and report back. I don’t know about those focus tapes that @Sub.Zero is using, I highly recommend NOT MIXING our titles with these. However, efforts on understanding the tension in the body and how that relates to the mind is very good.
