Recon in the form of jaw tension.. tips.. tricks

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I have during my five years at this place had one consistent physical reconciliation factor, and that is jaw tension and stiffness in that area. It leads to me sometimes getting addicted to stretch it and to constantly have to “crack it,” where I fully stretch and bite down until there’s a crackling sound.

In a way it might be likened to what people do that with their fingers sometimes to make them crack. Sometimes the dullness and pressure travels into the actual root of the teeth’s making it feel like my teeth wants to escape or smth lol.

But what I wonder is about others in here that has the same symptoms, and what they do to mitigate it and resolve it outside of just taking action towards the goal of the subliminal? Apart form exercising, stretching, drinking a lot of water, and eating well, what are some tips you can share about what you do?

Actually this one thing of jaw tension is the one thing I would like to not have be a thing with playing subliminals. Mental fog and irritation mentally is something that I just assume is a thing with this kind of personal development, but the jaw tension thing is just so annoying at times. It becomes kind of like when you have overworked your muscles, like a dull kind of pain.

Now ofc, it’s easy to say just play less… and over the years I have had my fair share of overexposures and such… But at the moment I’m doing the micro-loop protocol with only 2 programs currently (30 sec each every other day,) so I’m already doing a lot less than I used to do.

This jaw thing is not always a big thing as it comes and goes, but it is most intense after having dreamt a lot and when I’m tired in the mornings. A side effect of this getting worse is at those times of tiredness, is that I forget not to agitate it by moving my jaws around all the time and “crack” it.

At the end of the day I understand that tension in the jaws are a way of the body to relieve too much tension, and it’s completely normal. But to me it seems like some have it and some don’t (or very little,) and if I could find a consistent way of making it less I’d be over the moon. So that’s why I’m asking for tips and tricks from the community.

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I had jaw tension (unrelated to subs as it happened before I used subs) came from being stressed and anxious, especially when I was oblivious of them. At the time the remedy was to take pain killers and sleeping pills for a short while. It hasn’t come back since.

Related to subs, I did have neck and shoulder pain from time to time when I was in recon. On top of those tips you mentioned, for me I had to take more rest days, which sometimes turned into a long washout; I am talking about 2 weeks easily. Another remedy I took was to apply essential oil or ointment and massage the area, cooling the pain and reducing the tension. I’d personally do the same for jaw tension.

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Thanks for sharing. It is true I might have had it before subs but been unaware and most most likely not noticed as it was not as often as it is while on subs.

Yeah, I have noticed as well, that it can be past 3-5 days on washout until it goes away. But it’s so uneven that I don’t know or have found any pattern to follow. It kind of feels like a hangover, sometimes you are fine the day after but sometimes you are completely in the mud form almost no intake at all.

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#4

Could it be related to the kind of subs you’re listening to? The kind that targets your “wound” or an area that is particularly vulnerable?

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It’s perhaps how your body responds to stress, fear or maybe anxiety, and it could be viewed as a form of resistance. I would work with it by releasing it and relaxing and breathing. I think you’re familiar with resistance in the eastern philosophy sense, and I would work on it like that.

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Jaw tension like this is usually the byproduct of how a person holds and processes tension within the body. You process and hold tension in the jaw and the muscles connected to it, my trap muscles become very tense. Recon = stress.

Releasing the tension professionally (massage, chiro) is the only real solution. Yoga, or some other stretching and tension release modality. Qigong has helped me a lot with this, as the nature of the style I practice naturally releases an incredible amount of bodily and mental tension.

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The nature of growth within our psychosomatic system
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Yeah surely it’s related to the actual type of sub I’m running. That’s why I feel more positive with the new micro-loop strategy so that the tension doesn’t linger that long as with longer loops. And the wounds part is interesting as I recently had a very big release with an old wound, so having so much now might be the lingering effects of it.

Good points. I have been doing some Qigong but not regularly lately. Thanks.

Hm interesting. Yeah I figured that was the case that it was my body’s way of handling it that way. It’s just that these things related to the head makes it at least to me so much more intense, I’ll rather get cramp in my calf or something lol.

I will look into maybe taking some more massages when I get some things going in my life going forward. Qigong I have been doing on and off, so that could be a good starting point to get into more active ways of easing it. Thanks.

On an off note… I’ve noticed in my case and online chess, that’s its the best tool I’ve found for really spotting recon cycles and the severity of it. As soon as I’m in recon I notice sloppiness, outright blind spots and feeling like a retard, and also my rating taking a hit. Now I know why you don’t want recon when constructing and working with these subs :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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#8

A friend mailed me some of these. (I believe it was a direct manifestation of preordained vitality.)

Have neither used them consistently nor long enough to give a proper review, but I struggled with jaw tension for a long time (unrelated to subs), and I defintely feel a difference from using them for a couple of days. They suggest 3x3 minutes per day, but I usually just leave them in for about 30 minutes before I go to bed.

I believe the german amazon store has them as well.

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Maybe this resonates with you,.
Psychosomatically jaw tension is about repressing our truth. Repressed Anger. Boundaries. Maybe even feeling of helplessness.
So you could try to look what boundaries you dont put up. What Do you want to do but dont do it? What do you want to say but dont say it?

Else try to relax it. I am currently learning that with tense muscles, micro movements do much much more than big strong stretches. Try it. 10 mins of just micro movements and see where it takes you. Also try to feel what emotion comes up. Then go into journaling.
I had been doing daily yoga for now 3 years and recently I am changing this for micromovements. way more effective, as it works on the nervous system muscle connection.

So in my understanding there is an energetic blockage somewhere in your jaw. I get a lot of energy going through my jaw and also my teeth when listening to subs. You can also try to relax those areas where contractions are. But during my reccon cycle nearly all the time I have jaw ache and toothache recently.

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I can relate to this as well. Those of you who do Qigong, Yoga, etc. may be familiar with the twitches and muscle releases that occur during and after practice. A few weeks ago (and still persists a bit), I noticed that those twitches were occurring A LOT along my jaw line. I began to notice (after a few days) that my tongue was metaphorically becoming loose. I would say things that I would normally suppress or repress. I assumed that the same thing was happening.

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#11

For me it is the throat where tensions will happen.

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#12

Very interesting, I’m going to look into micro movements.

Been having all 3 of these growing up. Used to be very passive aggressive and triggering others to get to release this anger, and abandonment has been a big theme that I have worked a lot with.

Yeah just relaxing works great, just so hard when you are tired or drowsy in the mornings.

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#13

I sent you my strategy, it might be helpful. Good luck.

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I think when you put your system under pressure it will naturally start to develop tensions where it is most fragile. So wherever you are having these tensions may be your weakest points.

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Earth + Focus 10 tape #2 and TRE have helped me eliminate my somatic trauma response entirely. I’ve suffered from it for as long as I can remember, and recon would only amplify it. I used to call it trauma-response reconciliation. You call it “physical reconciliation factor”.

WB has boosted my emotional regulation and SSX my EQ, and that alone helps me deal with the trauma-response reconciliation I get on a daily basis, although it’s really slight, transient and, thanks to that boost, easily manageable.

My original post.

A lot of people experience physical symptoms during recon.

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#16

Have you tried TRE ? When i induce the tremors they travel all the way to my jaw and i get a nice jaw workout it feels great at the end of it.

Once i had slight pain in my jaw and the TRE session kinda realigned my jaw.

You can give it a try.

Me personally i don’t like to journal a whole lot. So TRe erases the trauma and no need to talk to anyone

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#17

The jaw muscles are muscles that are under voluntary control, though controlling them might require a bit of learning. I really like Feldenkrais stuff; here is a great program for releasing the jaw: Relaxing the Jaw | Richard Corbeil

Learning to relax your jaw is also great for having a deeper and more resonant voice.

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When I think of weakest point I’m inclined to think of it in the energetic sense. I could also be that it’s not necessarily the weakest point, but the point where it gets stuck and is not allowed to circulate. Kind of like a river that has been dammed up by beavers or a dam restricting the water flow. Thanks for your input.

Your story is quite interesting to follow as you have been here so long and been open about your responses to subliminals and past traumas. I remember some years back playing around a bit with Monroe Institute tapes, certainly an interesting science.

I have also tried TRE at times but not really stuck to it, why I don’t know. Maybe it’s because I felt temporary relief, but not really felt I had the tools to actually resolve the underlying issue that caused it to begin with. Maybe I should consider getting Earth… thanks for the input.

I’ve tried the tremor thing where you lie on the floor. The way I used it for a while was together with shadow work, and when I dug something heavy up I used it as a way to release the overwhelming pain.

As I mentioned earlier, I like these way of releasing the body and it’s locks. But to me its to be used together with some other modality to untie the mental knots that’s actually causing the stiffness in the first place. How the mental is the cause affecting the physical which then becomes the effect… like All is mind, or as within, so without etc… or the placebo effect…

But come to think about it… I believe I need to get back to some kind of sports or hobby that involves moving the body more. I used to be super active everyday, but over the last 5 years since I had a massive perfectional breakdown, I’ve struggle to keep something like this up and being consistent with it.

Being active as I was when younger was a way for me to release a lot of the unconscious pain, but of course back then I did not know how to find it or work with the inside.

Cool, will look into his work. And you’re right about relaxation, it’s the key to literally everything. Not to talk to much about it, but as I have tried a lot of substances over the years… the constant is that they almost always makes you super relaxed first, and then you get the cool stuff.

GLM has also made my voice deeper, which is probably from release of holding on to validating unconscious behaviours. Thanks for your input.

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