A slave who has 10 million dollars is still a slave.
A free person who has only 10 dollars is still free.
What constitutes wealth? What constitutes freedom? Answer for yourself.
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Interesting to see the success numbers. That’s a nice upgrade folks, congrats!
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The healing of the tumor was described in the description of Paragon Ultima in the sales page.
The seduction of the celebrity story can be found in this journal:
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Hello, wonderful SubClub community,
I wanted to make a friendly public service announcement after seeing this disaster unfold. For those of you who don’t know you can ignore/block someone on the forum to enhance your experience. Here is how it works:
Step 1: Go to the person’s profile.
Step 2: On the upper right-hand corner you’ll see Message and Normal.
Step 3: Click on the Normal icon. That will give you multiple options. You will see Normal, Muted, and Ignore.
Step 4: Click Ignore and select a timeframe.
If the person has hidden their profile you can still ignore them. Go to your profile and click Preferences. Then click Users and you can ignore the person by entering in their username.
You’re welcome.
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I accidently posted the same thing twice there, lol.
It’s funny when people remind me to use the ignore function. I was even suggested to use it by a moderator recently.
The reason it’s funny is because I’m one of the first people to encourage others to use it.
Here is the thing with Ignoring people and this also applies to Blocking people on other forms of social media. I learned this on ChosenZP.
This is not a shot to anyone, but just my opinion and my explanation on why I stopped using this function and believe that it shouldn’t exist.
You might think you’re being mature and setting a boundary, but from a social development standpoint it’s an incredibly immature and childish act to just eradicate someone’s existence like that from your view. You cannot interact with another human being in such a negating manner. It’s not natural and it trains your mind in an unrealistic fashion. You’re treating someone’s presence, thoughts, personality and energetic existence no different from something on Ad Blocker. If you are built within with compassion, understanding and have a healthy sense of empathy, then you automatically see the problem in that. An act like that comes from pure judgement, and zero understanding. You learn nothing. It’s not something you can do in the real world.
The one’s that you want to ignore the most are the one’s that you can probably learn the most from.
Read that twice.
“Why are you wasting time and energy replying to someone?”
Energy is never wasted when you have intention.
Just because it appears that there is no effect, doesn’t mean that it isn’t there.
There is a lot more going on than people think or are taught to believe.
Everything you’re seeing is feedback. There are no coincidences, only extremely precise and intentional manifestations. This includes people.
Lol, well you get a million dollars if you can show that Qv2 worked better for someone compared to ZP.
So let’s see your examples:
Paragon Ultima healing a tumor…
This person would have to develop another tumor and use Paragon ZP to accurately gauge if it’s better.
You can’t say it hasn’t been “surpassed” because these are super specific manifestations and one-time things.
It’s like with me, I used Wanted Qv2 to manifest my current partner, but that’s a one time thing.
I can’t really replicate it with Wanted ZP in a way that’s better, the dynamic for what’s better doesn’t work like that. You’re basing it on something situational. I can say, that without a doubt Wanted ZP is 10x better in every single way and I can easily manifest new partners.
When you’re saying “surpassed” that’s a subjective standard.
I’m well aware of the Libertine Ultima experience of Saiyan4Blue
Something to note, is that he himself reported that the newer versions of Libertine have gotten better since the first one.
For that specific manifestation/experience with the celebrity, he was also using Stark Q and Diamond Ultima, which is a crucial detail. It’s not just a Libertine result. Remember, Stark is fame related and we’re talking about a celebrity. I’m pretty sure that on ZP, he could manifest celebrities left and right if he wanted to.
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At least 3 significant modifications were made to ZP Scripting as the Preview progressed:
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The results of Mind’s Eye – released on Dec 31st – were so good, that it was decided to add elements from it into most future releases.
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The 14th Feb release of Quantum Limitless had new recon reduction tech in it.
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Saint & Fire considered the original Physical Shifting scripts of Wanted ZPP to yet be a work-in-progress. By 15th Feb, this tech must’ve also reached their satisfaction level – as that’s when they released Emperor Fitness.
My personal definition of "early ZPP files" is anything that was released before Mind’s Eye. Big/Popular Majors on that list are: Chosen, Wanted, Emperor, Primal Seduction, Sage Immortal, and RICH.
As the Q store is fully ZP-fied, my assumption is that when Fire was writing those ~150 Q Modules, final updates to these Core scripts would’ve also been completed. As the early files were all single stagers, the hotfixes could all be done pretty quickly.
Also, Qv2 being removed means the new buyers are now only getting the ZP files. We would want them to have the best version possible, not something that was kinda a beta release.
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Oh, really? I’m running Wanted in this circle, so it means Wanted’s physical shifting doesn’t work in full?
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Surprised pikachu face. Are you telling me that the physical shifting on Emperor and Wanted gets even better!? I’ve already had crazy results with Emperor’s physical shifting so I can’t even imagine how much further it can go.
Did @Fire also update the cores with their completed versions when he updated the Q store or are they the same as in the main store zp preview?
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I come to this thread and all i see there are certain members throwing their toys out the pram and throwing their underwear at Saint and Fire.
All i can say are two things. This whole EOL thing is a natural process within the ecosystem of SC the last 3 years. Why are people complaining now ?
Why did the dinosaurs die out ? yes to make room for new evolved species. Do you think blood giant reptiles are gonna live in harmony with mammals i think not !!!.
Why dont we see people riding on horses to get to work these days like hundreds of years ago ?. Answer people use trains and automobiles.
Enough moaning and complaining like little girls who had their favourite doll thrown into the garbage bin. Get a life man and stop moaning.
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No, it will be EVEN BETTER!
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I agree with the general premises you put forth @Luther24 but I do want to mention that I personally had a better experience with Wanted Qv2 versus Wanted ZP.
The fact that @Simon mentioned that the physical shifting tech in Wanted was still a work in progress makes a lot of sense to me, because it left a lot to be desired. Immediately after I started WZP I had by far the worst acne breakout of my life, so there’s definitely something up with that.
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I don’t understand why we don’t see the long term in things. Like if I begin listening to a sub for massive physical shifting and I get insane acne I know that the script is doing something positive. Do we need nothing but positive and amazing results to trust a program? What if the way forward is by first taking you back slightly and there is no other way?
I say this because it’s true. Some of the weirdest ‘backwards’ effects have led me to the greatest physical shifts forward
And I’d hate for them to dilute their programs to appease to our have cake and eat it too attitude with things. Like we wanna grow taller and be super sexy with no back pain recon runny nose or even a tad insecurity
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This was definitely not caused by Wanted lol. And also not Wanted Qv2 would have prevented it.
People don’t seem to accept (or want to accept) that sometimes (not true for everybody), then sub makes it worse first in recon, before it gets better.
It’s this idea:
The happiness change curve.
If you change ANYTHING in your life, you first will need to go through shit.
Like if you start working out, at first you will see nothing, you will only feel the pain from working out. But over time, you see results on your body.
If you are more “alpha” with your woman, first you will get shit, because she’s not used to that new self. But over time, she will accept it and give you what you need.
And as close as ZP is to virtually changing your reality RIGHT AWAY, some things just need a bit of time. And if it has to bring up shit from the past, healing stuff, than this usually will make it worse first before it gets better.
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Beautifully said bro. Sometimes on an alpha program you’re going to feel like the world’s weakest man but we are mature enough with growth to know there’s no other way Round it
I also seem to have an utmost trust in programs when there is this resistance and recon because it shows it wasn’t made just to satisfy my consumer senses but to actually change me forward into the target archetype
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what if there was an intoxication of his body in order to build a smooth highway to physical shifting?
Or maybe his body experienced a stress so acne is just body’s respond to a foreign stress?
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It is well-known that acne outbreaks can happen from a rapid increase in testosterone.
Wanted does do the latter, so technically it’s a positive effect.
ZP tech had months of research & testing before even the first set of Preview releases. I’m sure the final scripts are ~95% the same as the ones we are using.
If they do hotfix, do not expect something completely different – only a slightly enhanced, smoother experience.
Personally, my sense of overload is much lesser with files released late-Jan/early-Feb onwards (maybe starting with RM). Because I’m using Emperor & Sage right now, I’d like to have those little updates.
My motivation for asking was entirely selfish.
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Please don’t condescend to me.
I have never had an acne breakout in my entire life (yes, that includes all of puberty). I never had an acne breakout when I ran Wanted Qv2 for 7 months. I had an acne breakout after 1 loop of WZP that progressively worsened, and there was another user (I forgot who, their experience was on the Wanted ZP main discussion thread) that also spoke about getting a breakout.
Make it make sense. Your results are not my own and I’m not a liar.
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Also I don’t appreciate all of you ganging up on me because I’m being honest about my experience of Wanted Qv2. This place is a community where we research and find better solutions, but some of you act more like members of a cult, unfortunately.
That was definitely my suspicion as well. That’s why I continued to run Wanted even with the breakout because I trusted in the results and the process. (cough @Yazooneh cough)
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