I had recon with ZP right from the beginning following the listening recommendation so I’m a big proponent of an additional ZP light version.
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@AlexanderGraves sounds like AC is giving your remarkable results may i ask that you share some of your experiences ?
I posted a bunch in the AC tips and tricks thread. Or you want like a list? 
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Thanks will have a peek 
It really does make me wonder why some are good with the 15 and others need to go down to 5 or even 3. Like others here 15 minutes was way too much. I remember some days it being so bad I almost couldn’t leave my bed. But as I’ve come to observe more rest days isn’t really the answer because the rest days can throw me even deeper into that fatigue. Light and consistent seems the way to go for me. Almost 3 full days to recover from a 15 minute loop and that would have a tendency to make my daily life functioning more difficult.
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Anyway, a quick report:
I ran 3 loops over 5 weeks of Ascension Chamber so far. One of them only 5 minutes.
At this point, if I subconsciously want something and don’t have any conscious thought about it, it WILL happen within minutes. Like the subconscious pizza from yesterday:
Other things that happened:
- Didn’t feel like having a call (coaching) at a certain time because of tight schedule, but was consciously determined to do it anyway. Person rescheduled themselves 10 minutes later.
- I am thinking of fancying a certain grocery, my wife buys it without me saying a word
- Was thinking of an old RC Hovercraft I had as a child. Suddenly my mother brings it in when we visit her
Many more smaller things I can’t recall now.
It also manifests bigger things, but it depends a bit more on if I have blockages towards it. Then it doesn’t happen right away.
Mind you, I don’t do any visualisations right now intentionally. However, being INFP-A my mind was ALWAYS very visual. I imagine a lot of scenarios, etc in my mind. The daydreamer. Which obviously helps with manifestation.
Including the feeling part. If you do the Neville version of manifesting stuff. But this also worked money-wise back in the days (literally imagining and feeling how I would get an email with a sales message and then it happened).
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This all sounds very intuitive to me. These results that you’re getting are considered to be really desirable in some religions. According to some of these religions, these are the things that begin to happen in your life when you align yourself in a way that pleases god. Not interested in talking about religion, just wanted to mention it. Maybe you’re tapping into your inner chamber to connect to your outer world.
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Guys and gals
How do you experience recon with ZP?
Ever since i started using ZP i had almost no experiences of recon. I just cant even define recon cause i dont have that much of an experience with it personally
Im not the fastest to respond to subliminal influence, it takes maybe more time with me with certain stuff, maybe thats recon
But in terms of emotional turmoil and Depression, feeling lethargic etc, i have no experience so far
Things are very subtle. Results come but in a very slow and steady pace. Not explosively and fast
So thats my experience with zp recon so far of 2-3 months of running it
So maybe my reconciliation comes in the image of slower results than average? Im not sure. or its just how my journey is folding and its not recon
Other than that never seen any recon
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Also nice stuff from paragon zp here
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So you’d say that your days are just normal ?
appart from some results from time to time
What subs are you running appart from paragon ?
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Yes this is by far my experience, just regular days and results pop every now and then like every couple of days i would notice some small subtle change and i would record a voice memo to journal
I ran 1x Stark ZP 1x Paragon Zp for almost 2 months
and honestly those 2 months i wasnt seeing something really noticeable from stark like idk, i liked stark Qv2 better. But maybe paragon is taking priority cause its a healing title, but until now my journey with stark could be better . Like i cant define really what changed with stark until now
I just feel some cognitive enhancement a little of that but im not sure if that was me before or not. But anyways im sure its just a matter of time till i see better and better results happening.
Today is the end of my first cycle of 21 days with my custom zp
So ive been running my first custom for about 21 days now alongside paragon
1 loop (Ascension, Stark) custom ZP, 1 loop Paragon zp
Things are great overall
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Is there any reasons why you keep running paragon ?
Healing no matter the type usually take most of energy, you don’t run and make muscles with a teared quad do you ? Or you still don’t run and make no muscle right after the operation or the week after ?
So like anyone here could suggest if your need for heal has lessened you should consider to no longer use paragon
If your “quad” has healed it’s time to walk and if he’s good go back to “running”
Is the metaphor good enough lol ?
If you’re facing any medical conditions don’t forget to consult your doctor
A sub is not a replacement to any treatment
So to resume everything
You have the choice to either focus on healing if it’s important or “get out of your bed your healed enough goddam” and go after what you want lol
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Yes and no,
The main problem that made me purchase paragon zp was a skin issue, a real troubling flaky scalp. Real flaky not just regular small dandruffs
After 1 month 13 days something like that the issue was almost gone like 99%
However im still worried that it might come back. Cause ive never felt fresher in my life. working out freely without worrying about how my head is looking and if
So the main issue of what made me purchase paragon is totally gone.
And now im thinking also for paragon to help me with a couple of health concerns that i have that i didnt focus on before, cause before it was just pure i need to get rid of the flakiness of my scalp i just cant deal with it anymore
Now i wanna see if paragon helps me with:
1- improving eye vision,
2- improving my digestive system and healing it,(since ive done a surgery 3 years ago where they cut 85% of your stomach and that really hurts and messes your digestive system like on a whole new level)
And a couple more
Theyre not major but i think somewhat important
I thought about it.
But i think you can still run paragon with another title or custom and see results still from both and walk your journey right? I know of me and @SaintSovereign who do that i think like running paragon for overall health
But maybe paragon is slowing the progress more than the usual as a healing title
But im seeing improvements for now and results slowly creeps into my life.
I thought about maybe reducing the exposure of paragon instead of removing it all from my stack, but i dont know how to do that like how it would look like
Like instead of listening 4 times a week to paragon every listening day maybe ill go for 3 days of listening or 2, and by reducing the days of paragon i will replace the loop with another loop of my custom
(7 day a week is like 4 day of listening with the pattern, the 3 days are rest days so no exposure )
Actually thats a nice idea 
i think i answered my question lol,
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Yes you will still have some results with other title but the healing take the lead no matter what
Also big dandruffs are also a problam I have, I can asure you that a lot of the time it’s mostly due to some psycho-somatic reasons, it’s a form of expressions for stress, and it’s not because you’re so used to the stress and can’t feel it anymore that it doesn’t express itself in other shapes ! (dandruff,aches, insomnia blah blah blah)
You seem to have valid reasons to keep running it
And your end solutions to use it less seems to fit your needs, so well done ahahah
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@SaintSovereign can you comment how healing titles such as paragon zp or others can slow the progress of subliminal growth?
And how much of delay is it causing, like is it seriously not advisable if you want faster progression?
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I think you should be more sure of yourself and your solutions and be more patient
I think your idea of running 2 times paragon at max to keep it’s results and enhance it furtheris a really good idea, just then be understadable with yourself and allow startks results to unravel slower than you’d like
Stay patient my friend it’s a great gift you’re doing to yourself to take care of your body and issues
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Makes me wonder why, its very interesting but i have no idea on why it takes the lead and i want to know why lol
I think I disagree when it comes to my case, yes i think it can be that and maybe not
Hmmm that’s interesting like getting used to stress that you almost think that its your normal everyday.
But i think that wasnt my issue. I had a major goal to just demolish those embarrassing flakes i tried all kinds of detoxing methods nothing worked honestly.
and id say im kinda stress free maybe? No one is stress free lol, but i think i dont get stressed usually like on a daily basis
Im sure of my issue as maybe an internal health condition that expressed itself as those flakes
But maybe its the stress factor too who knows 
Its weird in this life that you can never be sure lol its funny, im becoming more and more curios and easily fascinated by life everyday and i think thats the blue skies module in my custom working its thing hahah
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Thank you my friend I appreciate the love and the advice
I wish you nothing but love and glory to your life and journey fellow human 
I will do that, actually im thankful we had some replies back and forth that made me conclude this idea of reducing the exposure by half so i could space some for my ascension, stark custom to shine
Cheers brother 
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The feelings are shared brother 
Just like you said cheers
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I’ll use please the universe and why I am here.
But I agree. Ever since I am truest to myself and feeling the moments more deeply, life became way better. AC certainly helped on building the mind for that.
Now that I am on DR, things will only accelerate.
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