I been thinking of running DR ZP ST1 on its own for the next three weeks before going back to my custom, but am concerned that I’ll land up in a deep state of depression and feel like a pile of worthless crap before things get better.
Can anyone convince me otherwise?
On the other hand, my life doesn’t look like it can get any worse…
If you still have the desire for DRST1, your subconscious probably wants to tell you something. Maybe that’s just the right thing for you at the moment. And I didn’t find DRST1 that bad. Just try it.
with DR ZP ST 1, especially if you’ve already run it before, then doing it again will be great. Remember your own experience and how much better you felt after running with DR ZP ST1. I know for me, it’ll always hold a special place in my heart.
Maybe it isn’t like riding a bike and you’ll crash, with DR ZP ST1, even if that does happen you’ll be better off for it. That is one way the mind will try to keep you from being free of those old problems. Oh it’ll just get worse, oh it’ll be this, when really it’s just afraid of you finding out who you really are when you’re free from those old problems again. To that mind safety is sticking with the current patterns, even dropping a “problem” is a threat to it. But you’ve already seen you’re bigger than it and you’re still alive, many of your old “problems” aren’t anymore.
Good day!
You know, I’ve never run The Elixir even once. Not Qv2, ZP or anything else. I’m putting a mental check next to it to run it someday.
Finishing up the third stage of Dragon Reborn.
Every so often in Dragon Reborn, I’ll get a ‘Mood Crisis’. Things look bleak. I’m doubting everything. I’m tired.
Often what happens then is that I’ll journal and talk things out. Sometimes it takes me back to the past and I’ll just kind of talk through what happened. Then I’ll get to a breakthrough, where the clouds part and I see possibilities and perspectives that I didn’t see before.
Pretty wild stuff.
Taking more naps too. Or sometimes not taking them, but wanting to take them.
The next 2-3 weeks are also going to be one of my two busiest times of the year. Interesting timing. So Dragon Reborn may come in with a bang.
I’m aware of a lot of pain in me right now. I’m not overwhelmed. But my heart is aware of it.
Those statements speak volumes. I’m on DR St1, I’ve continuously felt pain–but haven’t been chronically overwhelmed on ZP. QV2 was a little more stressful.
What’s actually bothered me lately is while not being overwhelmed but feeling pain, I’ve felt myself being drawn to old ways, escapes, and mental hideouts. That’s where most of my inner pain is created. Like I’m just looking for old familiar ways–since I’m feeling unworthy of such major changes. I have this guess that that’s where most of my growth is happening.
I’m also noticing moments of a different kind of beauty that are kind of creeping into awareness.
Makes me wonder where all of this is leading.
I think it’s going to change and evolve whether you feel worthy or not.
Just like you learned to walk, learned to speak, grew pubic hair, beat your heart, breathed your lungs. You were worthy. So it happened whether you felt worthy or not.
Sometimes the changes follow the feelings. Sometimes the feelings follow the changes.
Anyway, if we’re talking about old dysfunctional coping strategies and habits coming out to play sometimes; yes, I experience that too.
Let’s see if they loosen their grips and lose their holds on us. 
A quirky truth: I’m becoming aware that it’s ME holding on to stuff. Facing and owning that is just where I am. No crisis really. Just seeing and feeling my own self-inflicted pain. I’m glad Fire put in the relaxation elements so we have more support doing things easily which seemed foreign and unsafe initially.
My perspective is changing a LOT.
well said!
I have been running DR ST 1 ZP since last Thursday - two loops of 15 minute every other day.
My problem here is that because I cannot feel anything, and don’t really sense any change in my emotional state, I don’t know whether I am stonewalling or overexposing myself.
What about your dreams? Have they changed? Intense or even problematic dreams? Old stuff from childhood or something like that? If so, then your subconscious is processing the sub.
No, having problems remembering my dreams running DRST1ZP.
I did record a lot of my dreams while running my custom mogul, but they were the same type of dreams that I have had for as long as I can remember.
I rarely dream of any fantastical, science fiction or nightmarish stuff. Most of my dreams are about myself being in another location but 90% of the time in an unfamiliar urban, indoor setting and meeting people whom I may or may not know in my real life talking to me about things that are not linked to any real world context of my life
I think I recently dreamt about myself getting into a trouble using a slingshot to shoot a few animals outside my window for fun. I was expecting in the dream to face the police after they had done an investigation to find the culprit but simehow shifted my timeline to a time before I committed the misdeed.
Moving to a timeline before an undesirable incident happened is one of the few significant things I remember about my dreams, and they have becone more rare since i started running subliminals.
Another common thing I had in some of my more recent dreams was being driven or walking on a slope.
Hmmm…dreams are always a good indicator, especially with the healing subs. But that’s gone for you now.
You can just try to go back to one loop and then see if you notice anything. I also had strong mood swings with drst1 in addition to the dreams. Maybe it works better for you with one loop. But maybe it’s just too short and you have to give it more time.
People have different opinions about this, and I sometimes wonder the same thing about myself. “Am I listening too much?” “Where’s the recon?”
My personal take on this (right now): If you’re not feeling stressed, pressured, or challenged by the subliminal, then just ignore it. Work on your life instead. (After all the goal of all of this is to have a good life. Not to become an ‘expert subliminal listener’ or something.)
I think 9 times out of 10, as you’re working on your life, you’ll start to see connections with the subliminal that you hadn’t noticed before. But even if you don’t end up seeing connections, focusing on your life seems like the right way to go anyway.
If you’re not experiencing anything and you’re after maximum results with ZP it’s been said again and again that rather than increasing listening time you’ll want to experiment with less listening time. In your situation I’d try out 3 minutes before I ever do 2 full listens at a time of one title.
You probably don’t have the discipline to do it, very few of us do, unless you start to notice results, is to start off with 3 minutes of Dragon Reborn stage 1 on your listening days. Stick with that for your first cycle. Then if you want the next cycle do the whole 15 minutes just one listen per day. Then again go back and try the five minute plan and you can alternate until you find your sweet spot.
I listened for like 5 months on Stage 1. I stuck to the recommended listening pattern. Never listened twice to any track on any listening day. I wasn’t looking for quick results, my mindset was as long as it takes. I found myself pleasantly surprised after about 5 months and switched to stage 2 at that point.
It may take patience and that may be your big challenge. Stick with it and don’t go overboard.
On DR (doing stage 2 now-2nd cycle, two more weeks to go) I’ve become way more mature when it comes to managing my emotions and relationships. It also made me more immune to negativity and unfavorable circumstances.
@Sub.Zero @Malkuth Maturity has been my main goal for as long as I can recall. Even more than wanting large amounts of money and wealth . This is also why Executive is so important to me because executive function is huge when it comes to mental and emotional maturity as is self awareness which Dragon Reborn helps develop.
Do the work with Executive and maybe Paragon + QL st 1 since it’s more vital and then you could move to DR and Emperor. I highly recommend the latter stack when it comes to getting more mature.