ZP 5 or 7 minute loops vs 15 minute loops and more rest days. Which works best for you?

Gotcha, thank you for clarifying.

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Very interesting. I can never tell with the ultrasonics if my adverse reaction is due to the actual frequency range vs the ultrasonics somehow entering the subconscious through a different channel. Do you think maybe ultrasonics bypass your conscious mind more effectively? And since the new ZP scripting handles recon better its smoother than Qv2? Definitely some things to ponder there.

Always wondered a bit about the ultrasonics in general but haven’t experimented with them much.

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Do you get an overwhelmed type of feeling? Like your body is all tense and you can’t calm it down? I have trouble differentiating from recon vs just straight up overwhelm from too much input I can’t handle.

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Recon usually comes along with negative emotions, while overwhelm is more physical. I mentioned before that on ZP, some people get extremely active, others get tired. Personally, when I’m overwhelmed, it becomes hard for me to write / type, or I’m tired.

This is why rest days and washouts are essential. You need to give the subconscious time to rest.

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I have wondered a long time how the ultrasonics work even after reading the ultrasonics info 10x lol I’m still confused on how it does the same as masked without words or is it the frequency vibration of the words from the script that are being used? Well I guess the main point is that they definitely work. I will try to articulate this as best as I can it’s hard for me to describe the experience in words but here goes. As soon as the ultrasonic starts playing I feel like things in my brain activated its a feeling of euphoria and light vibration so with the ultrasonics its definitely feel the way it works is more on a physical level versus mind or thought level. I don’t know exactly what is going on but it feels like brainwaves, brain chemistry even hormones possibly are all being adjusted reprogrammed and moved around. I hope this makes sense. I guess the way to simplify what I’m saying about my experience is that masked feels more mental(mind) and ultrasonics feel more physical (brain / body chemistry):blush:

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Lol yes I believe the running theory is that ultrasonics vibrate the tiny hairs of your inner ear and the subconscious decodes those vibrations. So you don’t really “hear” it like normal conversation. So what you said sort of aligns with my theory that they travel a different channel to the subconscious.

I could also be entirely wrong lol. But it’s very interesting.

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@Fractal_Explorer sorry I don’t even know if what I just wrote had anything to do with what you asked regarding the subs bypassing the conscious mind um possibly for someone like me ultrasonics may be a better choice I have always been told by doctors my brain chemistry was off that’s the reason for my adhd, depression and anxiety,math learning disorder so if my chemistry does need some adjusting and ultrasonics do help in that way it may be a better for for someone with issues like that because most of those things are what have made it difficult at times for me to progress in life well at least at the rate of an average person that doesn’t have those issues. I’m not saying that masked doesn’t do that but I definitely feel something more intense regarding the brainwaves when using ultrasonic

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“Sound” is vibrations in the air hits your eardrum and your brain converts to an experience of “hearing” something. Ultrasonic audio is just vibrations outside the range of conscious human hearing. Animals can hear these frequencies and respond to them. We just never evolved to “hear” those frequencies, but the brain can still process them.

That’s the theory. We don’t quite know how ultrasonic works, just that it does. We have an actual brainwave scanner and we’ve tested it multiple times – when you listen to an ultrasonic, your brainwaves patterns change and match what we’ve seen with subliminal use.

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Well said. Couldn’t seem to find my words to articulate and explain thanks for the clarification. So it’s the brainwave patterns changing that I’m feeling got it .

Do the brainwaves differ between masked input and ultrasonic in any significant way? Or would that be too much variability to measure?

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No you’re ok, I appreciate you sharing your experience. Got some stuff to think about now regarding ultrasonics.

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Is this the right way to use the 5 minute

Day 1 : sub first 5 minutes
Day 2 : rest
Day 3 : sub 2nd 5 minutes
Day 4 : rest
Day 5 : sub 3rd 5 minutes
Day 6 : rest

Repeat

Has 5-7 minutes in a Zp custom the same benefits?

Or should I lisen to the whole 15 min?

Is the whole script in 5-7 minutes included?

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From username SaintSovereign:

This post also has some discussion on the subject.

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Thank you very much @Seeker

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You’re welcome.

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Personally, am running the whole 15 minutes. I don’t want to spend time in experimenting and finding out what works for me cause I know I can decieve myself with what works best.

Too much work too so am just plain lazy.

Will wait for an official 5 or 7 minute audio file and will run that when SaintSovereign and Fire releases it.

If not, am happy with 15 mins especially since I came from a time when I used to run SubliminalClub audios the whole night (7 hours a night minimum) back during those PrlmalTech Build days.

Compared to that, 15 mins per sub is a good deal. Although am not complaining that you guys are testing out the best runtimes.

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Did you get your question answered?

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I feel the same way. I tried the 7 minutes but I needed to back off. Too rich for my blood! Lol. Recon like a mf.

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yes the question answered, thanks @RVconsultant :pray:

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