I was talking about how mermaid/dragon shapeshifting is mental illness.
This guy then responded:
How the fuck am I supposed to just assume that he’s talking about “shapeshifting in the energetic/astral plane”. First of all, what the hell does that even mean?
Like, what?
Second of all, nah he actually believes in physical shapeshifting. Nice try:
Now this:
I don’t know what all that shit is. All I saw is that he did some ceremony and then he went off about kundalini, meeting Jesus Christ who came from jail, Satan cutting wrists, and then he kept typing shit that doesn’t make sense:
Literally making zero sense, I don’t even know what “gift” he’s referring to.
He sounds like he’s in a form of psychosis.
What is all this?
@NinjaGazin you are moving the goal-post hella far, for no reason. I’ve been completely grounded and rational this entire time.
If you feel something doesn’t fit in here, just flag it, notice the moderators and Answergroup and let it go.
But reading through these threads, it felt like you were highly emotional. Seriously triggered. Even enraged. Also if just from the ridiculousness.
I’m still reading through campfire policy thread and don’t know what is deemed inappropriate. As valuable and knowledgeable longterm member of this community you know that stuff.
I’m not really into this stuff either. I asked for a clarification, he explained it.
Although I believe there is far more out there than I know and deem possible. The pure existence of a sub for Astral projection is a statement that SC caters to needs beyond what most universities publicly research.
If this forum isn’t the place to discuss this, that’s just fine. SC is the authority to define the extent of what is appropriate and what is not, and by extension so are the moderators.
I absolutely respect that.
Their house, their rules!
@RVconsultant I’m giving my best to become a valuable member of this community, not overstepping boundaries.
PS I’m a fan of your asswhoppings on taking action and listening to subs constantly. Still I believe that visualization as part of loa is a good additional practice since it is recalibrating your ras.
You just had your entire post deleted in the other thread because you made an insane joke about rape, violence and children. A joke which should never be on a forum like this.
Now…
@Lichtenauer, let me ask you a serious question here. You seem like a reasonable thinker.
Is this enraged, triggered, and highly emotional? Sure.
Now ask yourself, is this a reasonable response? Use common sense, and think in the real world. Think about how normal people perceive. I don’t know if you go outside and actually talk to real life everyday people - I don’t know.
If you’re not getting dissonance when you read stuff like that… then you yourself have an issue.
I don’t know how you’re all focused on me, and entertaining a person who clearly abuses psychoactive drugs, makes zero sense (likely from psychosis) and believes in physical shapeshifting into animals.
If 2 more people come and start defending this shit - I’m out of here for good. It’s nothing personal, I just have standards.
Think about how this type of shit ruins the subliminal industry and makes people go "what the fuck, am I reading? Making them want to turn off the forum.
I’m actually starting to question the types of people that are on this forum now. There’s absolutely no way, that this discussion has gone this far.
What if, just bear with me what if this whole thing never happened? What if we just flag the first post about shapeshifting and RVconsultant or Saint, Fire will just take care of it? No bad blood would be spilled between Luther and others, like one is for one team and the other for other team. We would not have like 30 posts about it with passionate arguments, some of them angry, etc.
Saint, Fire would just close this thread even delete it, and when we will show this forum to someone else he or she would not find a whole discussion between members of this forum arguing against each other. No one would get hurt and we could focus more on important things like maintaining higher hype for upcoming stuff.
Edit: btw some of your posts can be published as a book due to its length.
@vesper btw this was not meant specifically only for you.
The English language has this weird thing with some words like YOU that you sometimes never know if it is singular or plural.
I actually don’t care if people know I run subliminals. I’ve run Khan for so long, I’m extremely unhinged and don’t really care what people think.
What I meant about this:
Most people when I tell them about subliminals, they type it in YouTube… and boom the YouTube subliminal space is full of absolute nonsense. Shifting into mermaids, dragons, werewolfs, gain lbs of fat overnight, activate your pineal gland, remove your chakras, “active kundalini instantly”. For the record, this was posted just 3 days ago:
Title:
“LOVEFIELD DIGITAL TALISMAN - PINEAL GLAND ACTIVATOR AND THIRD EYE OPENER (TRY IT, IT WORKS!”
This is literally what I’m talking about. In the comments of those YouTube subliminals, it’s literally just crazy, young and inexperienced people with a bunch of trauma.
Subliminal Club is the real deal. They have stuff for actual successful go-getters, high status people, celebrities, CEO’s, closers, streamers, pro-gamers, influencers, university professors. Do you understand my point, the disconnect?
Do you see the disconnect?
If I go up to them, they know I’m not like that guy and they will trust me. However, the point is… they need me to have the justification and trust to jump into Subliminals.
Otherwise the doorway for first impression is absolutely fucked.
My gripe is not what people think about me, it’s with all of the growth, transformation, healing, and empowerment (all of which they could desperately use to change their life and positively affect the world for the better) that they are missing out on, due to a false misrepresentation and absolutely ridiculous impression of Subliminals in general created by flat out crazy people.
Everytime I come across some bullshit, I’ve reminded of that. That might not irk the average person here. Most people aren’t thinking about the outside looking in, they’re focused on themselves and I completely get that. I’ve gotten so many results from these subliminals, I naturally began to start thinking about the bigger picture and how I can help others.
People like you, and me are good to go. But what about the next person? Would you not like for Subliminal Club to grow?
Imagine someone out there with traumas, low self-esteem, or living in poverty… running away from Subliminal Club, all because of being turned off by insane and ridiculous nonsense.
That’s my gripe, and that’s why I have the reaction that I do… aside from basic common sense.
That’s why:
I’m one of the most aggressively vocal advocators for action on the entire forum.
One of the most aggressively vocal advocators for self love on the entire forum.
The most vocal anti-porn person on the entire forum.
The most vocal “get of your comfort zone” (move the goal post) person on the entire forum.
One of the most vocal “fuck inadequacy” person on the entire forum.
One of the most vocal pro-masculinity person on the entire forum.
I’m not quiet about shit, lol because that’s not what growth is. I’m not actually invested in this as much anyone thinks, I’m just creating discussion in the hopes that maybe, possibly, there can be some change in attitude or awareness about this issue - that’s all.
Nobody did that, lol. Everyone just entertained it… that’s literally why we’re here… because I’m the only one that spoke up, expressed my lack of tolerance and then people got upset.
Look at the original post, and look at how how many people entertained all of that hallucinogenic, Satan cutting, meeting with Jesus, activated kundalini crap… actually giving him recommendations for spiritual titles such as RoS and ROM.
Imagine giving a person like this RoS - that in itself is an entirely different dissonance based on irresponsibility.
Now, that I’ve created all this focus and discussion… what you proposed @Deadpool can actually take place as people have more awareness.
Which is literally the whole point of what I’m doing.
I have personally different approach than you. I’d rather save my energy if I see any nonsense I ignore it. It also saves my sanity and redirects my energy to something more useful but I am human after all as well or rather to say superhero and sometimes get caught in this kind of entertainment as well.
I’m moving on from the discussion. In the future I will just flag them and move on.
Everyone’s happy, and we can all go back to kicking ass.
@BreathingJaguar, @IRON, @Lichtenauer I apologize if I was rude, disrespectful, out of pocket, or out of line. I take full accountability and I’m moving on.
If RV, Saint, or Fire have any feedback to give me whether publically or privately… they know that I’m 101% open to it without argument.
I realized that after I’ve hit send. But you spoke about the impression this forum could make on newbies. Me beeing here for roughly three months, I’m still considering me a newbie. I look at knowledgeable longtime members, such as you, for guidance. Therefore I didn’t delete the post.
As I stated earlier, I’m new here and still learning the ropes. And I have to admit that I turned cynical over all the injustice and insanity of the last 8 years.
Understandable? Yes.
Productive? No.
In my believe, for achieving a goal in a discussion, it’s best to keep a calm head and state your concerns without attacking someone.
Whenever I get attacked I automatically go in a defensive position. Even if the other person is right, I couldn’t acknowledge that because I felt attacked.
It’s slowly healing with me, in a way that I can acknowledge his truth afterwards.
If the person would have instead just stated the fact without attacking me, it would have been much easier to agree that I wasn’t right.
I believe it’s a a question of ROI. If I can keep the emotions out, can state my case without the other person feeling attacked, I will get what I want easier.
Just something like:
"Hey, Sorry to inform you, but this forum isn’t that place to discuss this stuff. There are clear rules about that. " Could have been much more effective.
You’re so invested in this debate, that you spned a lot of energy (which you are free to do if you want) for result you seem not to like.
That’s my point.
I would just state my point unemotional, flag it an go elsewhere. RV knows his stuff
No hard feelings from my side. I appreciate your opinions.
Okay. Good to see that this issue is resolved and no hard feelings between all of you.
And yes, please flag the post that seem out of the ordinary to any of you and move on. Engaging in them will result in loads of wasted energy like several of you have rightly said.
I will admit I have done the same before (as in fueling the fire thinking am stopping it) but at the end of the day it isn’t productive and we feel tired from all that talking/writing. It’s effort which is better spent elsewhere to improve our lives and through that help others.
@BreathingJaguar - would recommend the Subliminal Club Black section of the forum for you if you want to discuss esoteric topics. That way you can discuss these sort of material with like minded folks.
Cheers!
EDIT: I forgot to mention that the possibikity of having bad blood between you and others is also high when you have these kind of debates. It is better to avoid this and have a more relaxed discussion on the forum.
