SargeMaximus: Heart of Man (Heartsong, Primal, Executive, Paragon Ultima)

This post by blackadder has me rethinking my plans:

Problem is I can’t use Libertine anyways as it has ultrasonic in it. Maybe if I stacked Wanted+PS+Heartsong. I just feel like there is still potential here.

Will mull things over.

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You can create custom with wanted + libertine as normal Qv2 and this will be a masked version. You can also request a solace version in a comment so you would have an even quieter version than masked.

I asked support whether or not libertine in a custom would have ultrasonic and they told me yes it would

This is strange for me because I ordered my Q custom with Rich in it and got both versions. Masked and also Ultrasonic.

Here’s the screen cap pic below

I am just telling you about my experience. Btw this is my Q custom

If you order your custom in an Ultima build, you’ll get an Ultima build custom which contains both masked and ultrasonic in a single file.

If you order your custom in a Q build, you’ll get a Q build custom which contains two files - masked and ultrasonic, separately.

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Ok but I specifically asked support if having libertine or something like it in the file would still contain ultrasonic. Will the masked custom with Libertine in it contain ultrasonic?

The masked file shouldn’t contain ultrasonic in Q format. Even ultima cores like Libertine get converted to Q which doesn’t use ultrasonic for a masked file.

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Odd that the support agent didn’t tell
Me that.

So you have it directly from Fire, so it has to be true like he said.

Yeah and he should tell that support agent because if I had just gone by what they said and not mentioned it on this forum, I wouldn’t have not bought anything from here again. I was planning to move on.

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It seems they maybe thought you were trying to build an ultima custom. That’s probably why they were thinking it has ultrasonic. I know for a fact that none of the masked Q builds have ultrasonic components. My ears are sensitive as well and that’s something I would for sure pick up on.

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It just seems weird to me because I specifically asked them about a masked custom with Libertine in it or another type of ultima. And then I asked if the masked version would have ultrasonic in it. I was trying to be as specific as possible so there was no misunderstanding

All of the options you’re considering are good. I am not sure Heartsong is the best for your goals. Maybe it is. Wanted Q, Primal Seduction: Iron Throne Q, Khan or a Q custom with modules that may include Libertine and/or Iron Throne and the auras and inner gasoline and auric overdriver could be great.

I get you don’t want to use ultrasonic- I don’t use Q ultrasonic either
to avoid any ringing in my ears.

I do however use Ultimas and Ultimas in Q customs in masked (I don’t currently have libertine in custom).

I believe the ultrasonic is much lower in Ultimas (and currently defunct superchargers but available with some Ultimas) than a regular Q ultrasonic and Libertine comes with bonus I really think you will enjoy: Libertine supercharger! (sexy female voice guided meditation with low ultrasonic designed for headphones). This is probably what started my love for this company.

There’s too much vagueness and not any straight answers to my questions, which doesn’t sit well with me. So unfortunately I will be moving on after this week

You will be missed buddy.

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I’m with SargeMaximus on this. I think SubClub is not able to appreciate why this question is being asked by some customers. It is not sufficient to say you will get one masked and one ultrasonic. They need to specifically add to their response that the masked version will not contain any ultrasonic component. Because that’s what these customers are primarily worried about.

Tinnitus is not reconciliation. It is a real condition.

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@SargeMaximus

I’ll be sad to see you go, really liked your vibe and writing and was hoping you’d break through to get some success you wanted for yourself. Whatever you decide I wish you the best, and if you do decide to try new permutations now or in the future, I look forward to hearing about it.

Hopefully you’ll get some results bloom the weeks after stopping the subs

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It’s funny you say that…

I may be sticking around and I hate to be a tease but this is new territory for me. I also feel like I’m being an attention but I will explain what’s going on.

I fully explored the idea that perhaps I am simply wanting more attention and I have, in the past, tried to get attention by retreating. Indeed, part of my strategy in sales to pull people in is to feign leaving.

I’m explaining this so everyone knows I am conscious of that possibility. And if this is indeed just me being a very clever subconscious troll, then I truly apologize beforehand. But I will let you all know what is going on and hopefully you can share some insight and maybe a perspective that I can benefit from.

So about mid-week my youtube feed randomly, and seemingly unprompted, suggest-bombed me every Jordan Peterson lecture.

Back history: I’m not a big fan of JP. Mostly because years ago I came across his stuff and tried it out in sales and found it to be terribly wrong when it came to what I thought it would accomplish and what the real life results were. One example is, in his book, he says to hold your shoulders back and basically have a good posture. Now, my posture is already quite good and I was already working on it this year consciously, but I did notice years ago how trying to maintain a perfect posture while doing door to door would get the males either angry or had them trying to outdo my posture. Every encounter became a dominance contest in a sense rather than a sales call. I lost a lot of sales (I was selling at this point) I believe because of this. So I already don’t like most of his ideas, they don’t seem based in reality.

In my reality I try to get the result not have the ideal form if the former is hindered by the latter. That is, if having a perfect form destroys your results, then go with whatever gets you results.

And so, being the open minded and always-trying-to-improve person that I am, I began watching some of his videos and it got me seriously thinking about some things and again the common theme of “what he’s saying that sounds right vs. my results in real life” came up, and this reflected back my recent subliminal results.

Then I began to notice how women are responding to me a bit better online. Is it a bloom or is it because I’m free of the programming?

I instinctively began to entertain the idea of using subs from years past. I had one in mind that would help in this new direction. But then I thought “Wait a minute… what if this new direction is a result of the CURRENT subs… not the pull towards older subs?”

So it’s a very weird but almost impossible bunch of coincidences. I believe I’m on the verge of making a new step into my true self, which I’m afraid will alienate me further from people because I already am outside the possibility of most with what I know and can do, yet I accomplish what I do outside the normal “roads” if you will.

Don’t know if I’m making sense. But it’s like a massive introspection has taken hold of me this week, and I’ve not experienced this since the sub I’m thinking of. But the fact that it’s here without me using anything (I’ve actually not been using subs since last friday), is quite remarkable.

So I’m confused, and intrigued, and I need perspective. And I checked my email and got a notification from the posts on my topic here so here I am.

One thing I’ve been wrestling with in regards to continuing to use these subs or not, as I mentioned, is the vagueness and seemingly double speak regarding the recommendations for the subs. Just being honest: I find it hard to trust a company that says different things depending on the situation.

Anti-porn is in a program, then it isn’t. Support tells me a custom will have ultrasonic, then Fire says it won’t. Things like this erode trust and confidence in the company and products for me. But, with all that’s happened lately, I’m beginning to wonder what is going on and what is causing it.

Additionally, I didn’t think that either Primal or Heartsong were shall we say “development” subs. I do feel like I’m on a multistager that is designed to make me a better man, like Khan for example, yet I’m not using Khan and never have. So it’s all very strange how this happened this week.

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