So you have it directly from Fire, so it has to be true like he said.
Yeah and he should tell that support agent because if I had just gone by what they said and not mentioned it on this forum, I wouldnāt have not bought anything from here again. I was planning to move on.
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It seems they maybe thought you were trying to build an ultima custom. Thatās probably why they were thinking it has ultrasonic. I know for a fact that none of the masked Q builds have ultrasonic components. My ears are sensitive as well and thatās something I would for sure pick up on.
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It just seems weird to me because I specifically asked them about a masked custom with Libertine in it or another type of ultima. And then I asked if the masked version would have ultrasonic in it. I was trying to be as specific as possible so there was no misunderstanding
All of the options youāre considering are good. I am not sure Heartsong is the best for your goals. Maybe it is. Wanted Q, Primal Seduction: Iron Throne Q, Khan or a Q custom with modules that may include Libertine and/or Iron Throne and the auras and inner gasoline and auric overdriver could be great.
I get you donāt want to use ultrasonic- I donāt use Q ultrasonic either
to avoid any ringing in my ears.
I do however use Ultimas and Ultimas in Q customs in masked (I donāt currently have libertine in custom).
I believe the ultrasonic is much lower in Ultimas (and currently defunct superchargers but available with some Ultimas) than a regular Q ultrasonic and Libertine comes with bonus I really think you will enjoy: Libertine supercharger! (sexy female voice guided meditation with low ultrasonic designed for headphones). This is probably what started my love for this company.
Thereās too much vagueness and not any straight answers to my questions, which doesnāt sit well with me. So unfortunately I will be moving on after this week
You will be missed buddy.
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Iām with SargeMaximus on this. I think SubClub is not able to appreciate why this question is being asked by some customers. It is not sufficient to say you will get one masked and one ultrasonic. They need to specifically add to their response that the masked version will not contain any ultrasonic component. Because thatās what these customers are primarily worried about.
Tinnitus is not reconciliation. It is a real condition.
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Iāll be sad to see you go, really liked your vibe and writing and was hoping youād break through to get some success you wanted for yourself. Whatever you decide I wish you the best, and if you do decide to try new permutations now or in the future, I look forward to hearing about it.
Hopefully youāll get some results bloom the weeks after stopping the subs
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Itās funny you say thatā¦
I may be sticking around and I hate to be a tease but this is new territory for me. I also feel like Iām being an attention but I will explain whatās going on.
I fully explored the idea that perhaps I am simply wanting more attention and I have, in the past, tried to get attention by retreating. Indeed, part of my strategy in sales to pull people in is to feign leaving.
Iām explaining this so everyone knows I am conscious of that possibility. And if this is indeed just me being a very clever subconscious troll, then I truly apologize beforehand. But I will let you all know what is going on and hopefully you can share some insight and maybe a perspective that I can benefit from.
So about mid-week my youtube feed randomly, and seemingly unprompted, suggest-bombed me every Jordan Peterson lecture.
Back history: Iām not a big fan of JP. Mostly because years ago I came across his stuff and tried it out in sales and found it to be terribly wrong when it came to what I thought it would accomplish and what the real life results were. One example is, in his book, he says to hold your shoulders back and basically have a good posture. Now, my posture is already quite good and I was already working on it this year consciously, but I did notice years ago how trying to maintain a perfect posture while doing door to door would get the males either angry or had them trying to outdo my posture. Every encounter became a dominance contest in a sense rather than a sales call. I lost a lot of sales (I was selling at this point) I believe because of this. So I already donāt like most of his ideas, they donāt seem based in reality.
In my reality I try to get the result not have the ideal form if the former is hindered by the latter. That is, if having a perfect form destroys your results, then go with whatever gets you results.
And so, being the open minded and always-trying-to-improve person that I am, I began watching some of his videos and it got me seriously thinking about some things and again the common theme of āwhat heās saying that sounds right vs. my results in real lifeā came up, and this reflected back my recent subliminal results.
Then I began to notice how women are responding to me a bit better online. Is it a bloom or is it because Iām free of the programming?
I instinctively began to entertain the idea of using subs from years past. I had one in mind that would help in this new direction. But then I thought āWait a minuteā¦ what if this new direction is a result of the CURRENT subsā¦ not the pull towards older subs?ā
So itās a very weird but almost impossible bunch of coincidences. I believe Iām on the verge of making a new step into my true self, which Iām afraid will alienate me further from people because I already am outside the possibility of most with what I know and can do, yet I accomplish what I do outside the normal āroadsā if you will.
Donāt know if Iām making sense. But itās like a massive introspection has taken hold of me this week, and Iāve not experienced this since the sub Iām thinking of. But the fact that itās here without me using anything (Iāve actually not been using subs since last friday), is quite remarkable.
So Iām confused, and intrigued, and I need perspective. And I checked my email and got a notification from the posts on my topic here so here I am.
One thing Iāve been wrestling with in regards to continuing to use these subs or not, as I mentioned, is the vagueness and seemingly double speak regarding the recommendations for the subs. Just being honest: I find it hard to trust a company that says different things depending on the situation.
Anti-porn is in a program, then it isnāt. Support tells me a custom will have ultrasonic, then Fire says it wonāt. Things like this erode trust and confidence in the company and products for me. But, with all thatās happened lately, Iām beginning to wonder what is going on and what is causing it.
Additionally, I didnāt think that either Primal or Heartsong were shall we say ādevelopmentā subs. I do feel like Iām on a multistager that is designed to make me a better man, like Khan for example, yet Iām not using Khan and never have. So itās all very strange how this happened this week.
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As someone thats been lurking here a while i do wanna clear these things up. About the anti-porn thing, i remember that being a misunderstanding on your part. Saint has stated that there is no programming directly addressing porn, that said the subs will try to mold into what you subconsciously believe you need to āimproveā and help with that, and a lot of people believe that what they need is to stop watching porn. Because of this a lot of people have experienced that they stopped watching it.
You said though that in your experience porn has never been a bad thing, so you wont have to worry about that.
Really simplified version of what im trying to convey:
Sub: āWhat can you do to get more attraction from womanā
Their subconscious: āi need to stop watching pornā.
As far as the masked thing, saint and fire have ALWAYS said that masked didnt contain any ultrasonic, no matter what. Only ultima contains an ultrasonic component, but thats a very soft one. The only explanation is that the customer support thought you were trying to make an ultima custom and asked wether or not that had an ultrasonic component.
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I was very careful with my wording. Either the support agent barely glanced at what I wrote (also not impressive) or they told me the wrong thing. Either way.
As for the porn thing, fair enough. It doesnāt sit well with me that people claim itās in a program but thatās not the companyās fault.
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Hey man, good to hear from you. Iād honestly just give it some more time. Journal about it. Pray about it (if thatās your thing). Or just keep contemplating and an open state of awareness as youāve been doing.
Might be smart to keep resting from subs and taking the time for the processing/integration to settle before making a decision for your next move. Iām sure youāll come to more realizations and insights in the coming days. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do @SargeMaximus
Iām not religious. Prayer isnt my thing and Iāve been modded before for mentioning religion. Double standards are another thing that doesnt sit well with me here
Hey man thatās cool, no judgment here
This is what Iām talking about. No one is reading the literature. No one is reading support. Instead, we get tagged OVER and OVER and OVER for questions that already answered. What do you mean we donāt āunderstandā why people are asking the question? Of course we do. Thatās why thereās warnings on the products.
Why? Because people are obsessed with trying to skirt the recommendations. Itās getting to the point of ridiculousness. I just read a support ticket where someone was trying to redefine what a ācoreā is so that they could fit more cores into their custom. The argument being, if they build a Q custom, but include Godlike Masculinity Ultima Core, is it still a core when Q autoconverts it to Qv2. YES. Itās just a Qv2 core then.
Qv2 files come with a MASKED file with NO ultrasonics and an ultrasonic file. Ultima files come with ONE file, a masked file with an EMBEDDED ultrasonic. Itās RIGHT there on the copy.
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If I told you that there was no anti-porn script in a program, then there was no anti-porn. Iām not sure what youāre trying to pull, but where I draw the line is people challenging my integrity. I straight up left my job earlier this year and threatened to sue (and won) because of people trying that crap. I donāt remember exactly which titles you asked about, but I remember telling you that thereās no anti-porn, but an aura based sub will most certainly be drained of its power if you masturbate. I think you responded by asking if edging counted and I said I didnāt know since we didnāt test that.
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The question being asked is if an Ultima is included in a Qv2 Custom, will the masked version of the custom still have any Ultrosonic component? We are 99% sure the answer is yes, but we just want you to confirm the same in unambiguous language. Some of us have sensitive inner ears and canāt handle ultrosonic frequency. Which effectively leaves us out of the hybrid Ultima product range. So if Libertine and Diamond are included in a Qv2 custom (which I believe is now allowed), we get them without any ultrosonic whatsoever in the masked version right?
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The confusion came when I read this earlier in the year:
I then assumed anti-porn was a thing you had in your programs. Iām not trying to pull anything. Iām just going by what I read. Add to that people on the forum mentioning anti-porn effects of programs like Wanted and you can see why Iād assume anti-porn was in that as well, because you said it was in Mogul.
Itās an easy misunderstanding to make.
As for my confusion with ultrasonic, I specifically asked support about ultrasonic. Hereās the screenshot:
Again, Iām not trying to āpullā anything. You can easily see how Iād misunderstand.
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