Main Disc. Thread - Heartsong ZP

Will there be an experimental version of heartsong?

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So if I get it right Heartsong doesn’t really help in the seduction process?
It is more like it will put you in the best conditions next to your ideal partner? Like being introduced to your perfect match in a social setting where you are valued so everything flow?

Not yet

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It’s part of it. Stacking it with Sex & Seduction led to some fun interactions for me.

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Would you mind sharing?
I’m up for some story time

Don’t want to put specifics in here. Suffice to say that HS and S&S/PS seem to synergize.

In a way where HS gets women to bring out their relationship issues to me and S&S shows how to capitalize on that vulnerability.

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Hey thanks mate for your input, well would you choose wanted over primal seduction? i’d like to get your input on this because primal has alot of seduction skills so does wanted but does primal have more skills in your belt and from my experience primal gives fast results while Wanted doesnt show any results even after a week, does that mean because of its physical shifting ability, i mean personally i havent experienced any results from wanted with women, perhaps anyone could share their experience as to how long does wanted started working for them?

  1. wow! so you mean Heartsong has some charming/charismatic scripts that attracts girls, does that help in bonding with women online fast? so basically it helps to build rapport with everyone but especially women? and you have seen that effects starting from the first ZP session?

okay so this means not only will you know that she will be the right partner for you but also i will get the same response from her, meaning that she will feel that butterfly too to continue with the conversation?

  1. what about cold approaches in a supermarket or some place will Heartsong help to create a good first impression and make a strong connection to get a phone number?

how exactly do you mean by attracting girls? do you mean that they started conversations with you? online/offline or?

ahaa! what about marriage partner and by manifesting can it be by receiving a message on social media or when you sent a message they will reply and take things forward? how about receving marriage proposals in a form of manifestation?

can primal seduction help to do that? or prefer highly on wanted?

thank you very much!

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@Palpatine
isn’t S&S and PS similar, what if we stack both together? instead of Wanted or wanted vs PS in that case

anyone with the experience can give input too

thanks

PS also has primal in it. Which is a whole different kind of seduction mindset than Wanted.

I used S&S as it’s purely skill-building.

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Sorry for the late reply! I would say it really depends on who you want me to be, something only you know I can help you and others to but really only you will know what you truly want but in my opinion this is how I see it. Wanted is a guy who’s similar to a guy with pretty privileges and halo effect: The Halo Effect: The Superpower of Beautiful People - YouTube. Wanted can be used in a general setting not just for getting a girl/girls. For Wanted, you don’t focus on getting girls but you take every opportunity you get (That’s how I see it).

Primal Seduction is more active in that you take the opportunities and you create them to approach, you seduce, you date etc. It’s hard to compare the two but an obvious pick would be Wanted is like James Bond and Primal Seduction is like a player/pickup artist (I know some people might not like this term but I mean it in the way that Primal Seduction is more so to get as much girls as possible. Again this is just my personal opinion I might be wrong).

I would say but I can’t confirm since I also used Stark with it so that might be where the charm scripting came from. If the girl is into it for sure it would help with women bonding online fast but make sure it’s a girl that you know in rea life (Not someone who lives in another country. Though you could probably do with that as well but I assume it would be harder). I would say Heartstrong gave me similar effects with people compared to LBFH without the internal results that LBFH would give but yes for me I had results after the first ZP session.

I will be honest I’m not sure about this one. The girls I’ve talked to haven’t mentioned that and I’m not a girl so I wouldn’t know aha.

I would say it’s good but I would have a base for it. Something like Wanted or Primal Seduction with Heartstrong might be a good combo if your going to do cold approaches.

Usually for me I would start the conversation first but if it’s IRL a girl might start talking to me or I might start talking to her.

I would say @AlexanderGraves someone who has an amazing marriage advice and is a great/smart person knows about marriage would give you a better answer for that question.

Goes back to the topic I first mention it really depends but whichever you choice will work just depends on how you want them to create it if that makes sense.

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Well, “god works in mysterious ways” as does the subconscious. So you cannot expect things to happen in a certain way because it likely won’t be.
Any manifestartion I had so far came exactly NOT in the form I was anticipating it.

However, yes, Heartsong is based around finding and creating the perfect relationship for you with the perfect partner. If that includes marriage in your mind, so be it.
Don’t overthink it.
Let the sub do it’s work.

Why thank you!

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Not only does heartsong :

  • make your relationships sweeter and more loving from both people on each side… ( both romance and non romance )

  • teaches you how to forgive, understand and love people around you no matter what harm they might have caused you.

but it also :

  • heals you to a point of realizing your self worth and learning how to love without feeling attached to the person.
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Really shows you how cool and valuable of a person you truly are and how all you ever wished to feel in a relationship is actually already within you.

At this point you can love without fear of losing anything in your life.

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Do you(or anyone else in the know) think love bomb for humanity can be swapped out for heartsong as I run LBFH for everything you just described?

Thanks in advance

Well you made me a believer. I was planning on running Chosen from Within next few cycles for healing, but I think I’ll run this first.

Hope you’ve put on your seat belt

Because if Heartsong goes this smooth for you that’s cool
But bruh if there is anything in your subconscious or anything you’ve hidden from yourself in your relationship (if you’re in one already, otherwise what I’m saying has no real value) to make it work, either you or your partner or both

Your in for a sh*tstorm

Things got better after that but damn man

It’s like the sentence I saw someone wrote ‘’ Either this will be the one relation or it’ll break’’ Heartsong will make you go through it if there is anything that needs to be adressed

But it’ s going to hit really hard if it has to

I thought it would be a love story with it and I went though hellfire instead :joy:
But I honestly deserved it, for what happened was caused by myself long ago and bad choices Wich needed to be resolved at some point

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I’m single but a lot of my inner bs is still around relationships and the one I never got, even though I’d never take her back. It still weighs on my consciousness years later.

Always been single too so there are things to work out and I’m definitely looking for the relationship with self to heal and others in general, not necessarily just romantic. So it’s already been causing me that inner turmoil and rough ride in life. I was ready to go to khan to blast through, but I think I need to go to this first, then Chosen from Within.

But now is the perfect time for me to take on something like that. I’m settled into work and living situation and single yet and this will set me up for a more enjoyable summer time and let me meet people and have fun after the heavy hard work is taken care of.

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It’s a tough choice!

“It’s not as potent as CFW, which was made for healing. Heartsong has healing, but wasn’t made for it.”

I want the healing most right now. So, CFW and then Heartsong?

I’ll be making my purchase tomorrow. So reading that post from saint has me thinking CFW is the choice for now.

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Heartsong isn’t going to break a relationship. If a relationship breaks while running Heartsong, it means that the relationship was going to end anyway. Heartsong or not.

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Feel free to correct me if wrong brother but i recently had to decide on which healing sub to run and reading the description of CFW it sounded like the healing was more catered toward leadership and issues surrounding that which may not necessarily be what you’re looking for.

I ultimately decided on Regeneration as a general all purpose healer that adapts to your stack.