Main Disc. Thread - Dragon Reborn ZP

Dragon Reborn is a unique program and is completely separate from Khan/I Am (although they are both powerful healing programs).

The Q-store major program core versions are essentially identical to the non-Q-store versions.

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Both Khan Total Breakdown and Dragon Fire as described in their descriptions are based on a modality named “I Am”.

I was curious whether the I Am version in Dragon Fire has additional components in it compared to the store version because it mentions physical, and spiritual healing.

I love this module it’s so powerful and so so healing. Much easier than Rebirth, much better too, in my opinion.

The “I Am” module is so powerful I cannot praise it enough.

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I AM is a Q Store module that is pulled from Stage 1 of Khan.

I AM has some similarities to Dragon Fire. They’re both about healing and breaking down. But they do it in somewhat different ways.

Here is the description from the major program version of Dragon Fire (notice the bolded part):

STAGE 1 – DRAGON FIRE

Crushing all your deepest fears, emotions, traumas, beliefs and energies is the prerogative of ST1: Dragon Fire. Similar in function to Khan’s ST1, Dragon Fire doesn’t have the limit of removing only that which is standing in overall execution of Khan. No, Dragon Fire will breakdown every single part of your being, from the physical all the way to the deepest levels of your spiritual being.

Every single part of your being will be cleansed by the flames of the dragon. This includes energetic blocks, negative emotions that you are holding on to, tensions in your body, conditioning, traumas, as well as any harmful subliminal influences you might have picked up on during your subliminal journey.

This is a profoundly wide effect. You will experience changes throughout your whole being, and you need to be prepared to go through the challenges that this entails. It is not an easy path – be ready.

Dragon Fire will also help you become immune to future conditioning from your environment and others, while helping you increase your sensitivity to positive subliminal influence.

If you are sensitive to energy, you will likely notice the powerful purifying flames of Dragon Fire coursing through your body.

and here is the description of Dragon Fire from the Q Store Major Program Core:

The core of Dragon Reborn ST1, a subliminal designed to shatter and purge, heal and rejuvenate, release and liberate all of your negative emotions, traumas, beliefs, energies, conditioning and negative blocks, on the physical, mental and spiritual levels. Use it for name embedding and therefore making it much more effective, or add your own modules to it and make it your own dream subliminal.

So I AM is not “in” Dragon Fire. They are literally two different modules.

But the two modules do share some very common points in terms of their functionality.

So, I think the spirit of your point is accurate.

In brief:

The module called Khan Stage I has “I AM” functionality (i.e., powerful breakdown and healing reintegration) that is in the service of Khan Objectives.

The module specifically called “I AM” isolates and distills that same breakdown and reintegration functionality (that was originally used in Khan Stage I) so that it can be generally focused on emotionality, identity, and integrity. Not as strictly tied to KHAN objectives. It is also a kind of modular ‘free agent’ that can be integrated with the vision and objective of whatever custom you’re building.

Finally, the module called Dragon Reborn, Stage I: Dragon Fire has its own powerful breakdown, healing, reintegration focus that is geared towards the specific Dragon Reborn objectives. (i.e., the whole-systemic development–physical, emotional, spiritual, etc.–that you referred to just now.

It is a powerful healing module as you’ve recognized, but it is not a variation of the “I AM” module. They are more like ‘cousins’ or ‘classmates’, not twins.

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Oh, one other point, you may have seen this already, but just in case.

For most of the multi-stage programs, Khan, Dragon Reborn, Ecstasy of Gold, Quantum Limitless, Alchemist, the Stage I serves a kind of ‘Clearing the Field’ function that people usually call ‘Healing’. These stage I’s all serve a kind of preparatory function. They challenge, breakdown, and disintegrate internalized patterns that interfere with the objectives of the program.

So, in fact, this is not even restricted to just Khan and Dragon Reborn. Somewhat similar function is found in almost all of the Stage I’s of the multi-stage programs. (Emperor Fitness is an exception.)

Interestingly, there hasn’t really been a new multi-stage program since Dragon Reborn was released back in 2020, and I for one am kind of glad about that, since I seem to have this compulsive desire to carve out 1 year sections of my life for these things. It’s a big relief to be getting close to the point where I won’t be working through any multi-stagers for a while. :sweat_smile: (that has the feel of ‘famous last words’. But we’ll see.)

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With that in mind, perhaps we can isolate this modality of Dragon Fire too so that it may be of benefit without being tied specifically to the original objectives.

Let my wish be granted :sparkles::star2:🪄

My heart goes out to you @Malkuth have an enjoyable day! :hugs:

(For your friendly advise and counseling) :shushing_face::grin::wink:

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Hey dragon riders , :dragon:

Did dragon reborn helped you with this :point_down::point_down::point_down: ? Yes or no / different sub or modality

“” In working with thousands of people, I have repeatedly
encountered the tragic theme of I am not enough––not good
enough, smart enough, rich enough, young enough, old enough,
worthy enough. Almost as prevalent is the theme of There is not
enough––not enough time, money, opportunity, love, coopera-
tion, power, you name it. This prevailing premise of not-enough-
ness successfully cripples the lives of people who would other-
wise be buoyant and passionate. Since its subjects are so readily
yet unwittingly loyal to it, I came to call this blight the Trance
of Scarcity. “” from the book the trance of scarcity

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Yes. :+1:

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Working on all of the above even as I text. Only a month in but I feel the change coming over me. Great question, sid :+1:

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Healing may be really tough since it affect our main control centers like those related to sex and food. To cope with the recon (=healing) we tend to use very old neuronal pathways that we fall into where those control centers are getting rechanneled. I guess only being active (getting food by working and getting satisfied sexually by having sex) can help you get out of this. Another route seems to be semen retention and limiting your food intake.

@Lion Any insight, mate?

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I expirience the opposite is working better

Include : fresh grown sprouts and make your green drinks from weathgras+ full spectrum vitimins and minerals. Walnuts and sauerkraut juice.Oils Like : coconut, black kumin, cold pressed olive oil

And your good to go

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I meant rather coping with craving for food and sex, and the way of dealing with that craving when doing healing subs.

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This true. I didn’t conciously think of it this way when I took up one meal a day and semen retention recently but these two are types of dopamine fasting which helps get our mind right and hence help heal us.

And you are also right in that consuming food and having sex should be the after-effects of a life well-lived instead of them being something we are entitled to.

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The healing may be so tough that you’re like a teenager again when it comes to the mechanism you use to cope with the recon. Getting healed is like recovering in bed so you basically want to do nothing, just eat, relax and have your sexual urges satisfied. It help going through the recon but it’s not constructive and a lot of your energy goes into the coping mechanisms instead of taking action.

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@Sub.Zero - my body adjusted to fasting and semen retention in a couple of days. So it’s okay to do it.

Not a long term solution though. Have sex and eat at meal times after building some rssevoir of self-discipline and energy. And don’t run physically demanding titles like WANTED and Paragon while fasting.

Emotional and mental healing titles could use some habits like meditation, fasting and semen retention. It’s only difficult in the beginning. But if it is too difficult, go ahead and have sex and food regularly.

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I think healing titles need a component that helps you eliminate bad habits like masturbation and overeating so those mechanisms that are strictly related to food and sex needs and coping with them. Those mechanisms are often used when dealing with a lot of recon (=healing), at least in my case. And I experienced that on healing titles only. Nothing like that when I was running Wanted, Mogul, or Limitless (ZP).

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Healing titles can surely help eliminate such habits but we can give it a shot from our own side. But if that is difficult, do go ahead and make use of the subliminal to eliminate subconcious programming after which better habits are easier to practice.

Do what works for you of course. I merely stated my experience since you tagged me :pray:

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Thanks, Lion :slight_smile:

That’s the way to go.

It’s not something I cannot manage it’s just harder when getting a lot of healing (=recon). I suppose it’s also related to the methods we use to cope with recon (internal turmoil?) and it seems to me that a lot of us go into overeating and masturbation since that’s the easiest way of coping with recon (=healing).

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Healing titles or the healing components in different titles cause anger that we suppress so this suppression on anger turns to bad habits . Fredrick Dodson say it better from his book levels of energy . The numbers are the levels of energy

" Repeatedly suppressing or denying anger (160), perhaps in order to avoid disapproval, will turn into a stiff sort of coldness (150) and eventually strange compulsions (130) such as twitching, addiction to sweets, addiction to sex or something other. If that anger is completely owned, as in “I fully acknowledge that I am sick and tired of this and wont shut up about it anymore! This is something I definitely do not want in my life anymore!” you will notice that the anger cannot be upheld for more than a few minutes and you will not sink lower but actually move up to 170 (complaint) or 190-200 (boredom, contentment). ’

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Sometimes it’s not anger but the emotions that stem from our traumas like sadness, the sense of loneliness, fear, anxiety, or even numbness. But I can definitely confirm that those states (emotions) stemming from traumas when getting healed may cause compulsive behaviour like overeating or compulsive masturbation. That are our mechanisms to cope with those states (emotions) but I believe it’s only temporary and, of course, you can get control over it consciously.

Another thing is, it seems to me that the mind needs a huge amount of convalescence, therefore, you have much less energy, “time” (subjectively), and motivation to do other stuff that could bring you satisfaction and the easiest thing to do is to eat something or just jerk off to get a boost of energy and release the tension (mainly cause by the recon=healing).

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I agree that healing can be tough. I have been in some of the worst moods lately while running Dragon Reborn St 1. I was running two loops every other day but decided yesterday to drop to one loop every other day

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