TobyMaguire lol
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hahahahah
On serious note, itās halfway through the 2nd month of 2023 and Iām making big strides
Wealth goals are being reached@!!
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hello,
i have really enjoyed your posts since i found this place.
this question might seem random but which of these options do you think is best to eliminate approach anxiety as fast as possible.
khan stage 1?
primal?
primal seduction?
another title?
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whats up G, hows it going lol
I havenāt used khan stage 1 that much and Iāve never used Primal but Primal Seduction will definitely 100% help with eliminating approach anxiety to women in my experience
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im actually asking because i saw one of your posts where you said primal was best for approach anxiety.
so it seems you have since changed your mind and now you would recommend primal seduction instead of just primal for this?
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Yes, youāre referring to this post.
In my opinion, yes Primal would be the fastest but note that this isnāt based on actual experience. Itās a theory thatās primarily based on
- Primalās objectives
- Eradication of social anxiety and approach anxiety in particular (mental worry and anxiousness over every detail in the interaction).
- Create a mental shield against any and all forms of perceived rejection ā never feel sad after rejection, or let a past rejection prevent future romance / social attempts.
Primal has the clearest and most concrete objectives out of any other product for the purpose of which youāve mentioned.
- Primal has a stronger focus on its objectives than Primal Seduction
So in theory it would be the fastest.
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thanks for explaining.
i think i understand now.
so you yourself have not used primal but based on sales page it seems best?
did you yourself have approach anxiety before primal seduction and it helped you with that?
or are you someone who never had any significant problems with approach anxiety even before subliminalclub?
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yes basically lol
Before I ran Primal Seduction I was very afraid of approaching women lol.
I was running Wanted and I would get lots of IOIās (indicator of interest) from women. They would stare at me, give me the deer in the headlights look and etc.
However, they werenāt approaching me and I would shit my pants at the thought of approaching them.
I then decided to start running Primal Seduction and it helped me open up towards their direction slowly. Increased my charisma, approach confidence and helped nullify my fear of rejection. This combined with taking action, helped me a lot.
Just running Primal Seduction alone should boost your approach confidence, without even seeing any results. Because youāre backed by one of the most powerful PUA products on probably the surface of the earth. Itās like going to slay a Dragon but youāre not as afraid because you have Excalibur in the back pocket and you know it. The outcome or process no longer matters because there is auto-calibration and your subconscious mind is now on board. Suddenly there is no way to do wrong, if you truly understand the process that is occurring. There is only inevitable success and progression. When you anchor yourself to this, you become almost invincible in your growth.
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do you mind explaining you mean here?
what do you mean by ācombined with taking actionā?
also, how would you rate your approach anxiety before and after primal seduction.
if 1 is unable to approach even when the girl is giving you clear and obvious IOIs
and 10 is you can approach anyone,anywhere.anytime
on this scale of 1 to 10, where would you say you where before primal seduction and where are you now?
also, how long would you recommend someone run primal seduction to see results for approach anxiety? how long did it take for you to see results for this?
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Does it require any base(ascension or emperor for example) tho or it can be run directly ?
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Running the sub combined with being around women, talking to women, flirting with women and approaching women lol
Before Primal Seduction, like a 2. I could force it but it would be awkward and shit LOL.
After Primal Seduction, maybe like a strong 5. Your average pick-up artist, like those PUA gurus that go around approaching attractive women.
The reason why I have it at 5 is because itās still very vanilla, meaning it really depends on who is around as well as the environment. If itās a quiet place and lots of people are around, then yeah too much social pressure that would give me anxiety. 5 is like the standard, confident to approach any women but in ideal situations. Luckily, Primal Seduction seems to manifest those ideal situations or rather situations that are most suitable for your growth.
If youāve ever been walking around somewhere and seen a really attractive woman. After Primal Seduction I could go right up and approach them without issue. On a 1 on 1 level. The more you get away from the isolation and 1 on 1ā¦ that would be where I get weaker. So not at the anytime, anywhere yet.
That being said, lol. After many months of Khan, Iām like a 9/10. My confidence now is a bit weird in an ungrounded way. Itās like dissociative confidence (is that a term?). Confidence that makes you weird, I donāt know how else to explain it. Khan is not a joke lol. You ever see these guys that are a little strange and seem to talk to everyone? Iām that guy lol but I donāt do drugs, itās all through my beliefs and how I interpret shit. Life is my drug lol. If you want god-level confidence and I really mean god-level then Khan is the program to run lol but expect to get a lot of recon in that growth process. Khan doesnāt care about comfort zones and all of that lol. Right now I can approach women in any place with high social pressure, even if itās not appropriate and without care if people will judge me.
You start to love people so much that you donāt give a fuck about them.
In terms of the concept of judgement, the thought process of Khan is just strong and dissociated from how people thinkā¦ you going to know that people are looking at you or judging you and in your mind your sense of self just overrides them in a fashion, its like
āandā¦? yesā¦? whatās upā¦?ā and then everyone goes back to their whatever lives and you go back to kicking ass lol. Arrogant and impatient confidence but more defensive than imposing. Itās like frustration with the feeling of giving fuck. Like, you just donāt care in the moment. You canāt be ordinary for that, you really have to shift in your internal framework in a way that gets you out of your comfort zone and out of the realm of typical society. It probably manifests differently for everyone but for me it used my spiritual beliefs. Khan confidence takes over rooms and it sometimes feels inflated because itās not something thatās typically acceptable. These subs have loosened some screws and people around me have noticed. In a good way through LMAO. I think lol. But hey it works.
Also Khan is like socially and seductively just a different level. Primal Seduction will level you up but I feel like it has a cap or at a certain point you will get crazy recon.
At a certain point for the crazy shitā¦ youāre going to need deep identity shifts and all crazy stuff.
Early on in Khan I would manifest situations where Iām around multiple women showing me interestā¦ where itās just usā¦ and yet I would still wimp out. Later on in Khan I manifest the same situation but I intuitively just start throwing sexual innuendos without even thinking
run it for 6 months and take action as best as you can, you should see good results.
for me i saw results (inner changes) after 1 loop lol
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this is all my opinion:
The base thing has to do with recon.
Example: Someone runs Emperor and experiences tons of recon.
Then they start thinking āoh maybe I should just take smaller steps to Emperor and develop a foundation first then it will be easierā.
Emperor will level you up to the level up emperor, regardless of your foundation or base. Itās just that itās going to be a more recon (and therefore difficult) journey.
The same applies to Primal Seduction. You donāt really need a base/foundation.
āI need a stronger base/foundationā is a synonym for āI canāt handle this level of change, itās too much for meā.
so it depends on the individual lol
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you have an amazing ability to explain things bro.
posts like this are why i have spent hours recently catching up on your past posts.
this is extremely helpful and i sincerely appreciate you taking the time to share such valuable information.
i saw from your past posts that you did not really run all 4 stages for khan.
which stages of khan do you recommend to reach this level of social freedom?
also, how would you compare female attention of primal seduction vs khan?
i ask because i saw from your past posts that you only approach girls who show interest first which makes sense.
i understand that khan gives you 9/10 social freedom and primal seduction 5/10 but how do they compare in terms of which results in more IOIs and which gets you IOIs from the women you want most.
hopefully this makes sense.
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stage 4 because it has everything except the breaking down/healingā¦ lol
khan is stronger attraction
its probably the same, it depends on your development
the more you develop, the more ioiās you get and more from the women you want
lol cheers thanks for the questions champ
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Manifesting money is really easy lol. Once you get it going, itās kind of baffling how easy it is.
The universe is merely a reflection of your internal reality.
So if you want to attract abundance and want things to work out for you financially, then you simply make your internal reality abundant. Sounds simple as 2+2=4 and it is. However, most people have too much fear and it manifests as getting in their own way. Not wanting to let go of beliefsā¦ or making their internal reality based on the external, etc, in other words they donāt know the game or how to apply it lol.
When I was addressing my wealth issues, I remember reconciling shit related to the first 20+ years of my life being indoctrinated by everyone around me that ālife is hardā, āitās rough out thereā, āmaking money is hardā, etc.
What a load of crock hahahahaha
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wow I didnāt know you could PM yourself on here lolā¦
Iāll just use that as a private journal haha
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Only issue I see with this is some women have microscopic levels of IOI and you either need healthy self worth to trust your intuition or a really good read on women. Like that meme on women shooting their shot, just standing near a guy and then getting frustrated when he doesnāt approach lol. I think having the freedom to approach whoever you want is the ideal scenario. But I imagine with what youāre talking about here you smile or make eye contact, see if itās mutual, then head over. Not like ignoring all body language from the woman and trying to win her over. The more I think about it, it seems like a lot of PUA tactics might be a consequence of being autistic. Not even in a disrespectful way, but having routines and canned lines, not having a natural grasp on body language, this tendency to group women into all one category and map out an elaborate structure of how they think or act. Very very unnatural.
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