As mentioned on another thread, I used to spend a lot more time on the forum, bringing up interesting discussion topics, interacting with everyone, sharing ideas and hyping products. After recent incidents, I realized just how much I missed logging on and seeing everyone excited, waxing philosophy, debating over topics, etc. Truth be told, coming on to the forum became a nightmare, as the moderator queue would be full of flags, Iâd have at least 5 PMs of complaints (not referring to those just asking questions) and at least one big issue that would completely take me away from working. But, thatâs my fault. We ultimately set the tone here, and any failings on the forum is a failing of ours.
So⌠weâre going to bring some of that old charm back to the forum in the form of one my favorite things to do: talk about provocative stuff. 
We get a lot of questions about whether or not subliminals are capable of âmind control.â Hereâs my official answer, based off A LOT of data accrued over the past five years, and all the experiments weâve run. So, is mind control real and can it be done with subliminal audio?
Is it real? Yes.
Can it be done with subliminal audio: Very, VERY doubtful.
âBut Saint,â youâre probably thinking, âare you sure youâre not just saying this to cover up the biggest fear most people have about subliminal audio?â
While yes, I am addressing this now because itâs relevant, Iâm definitely not covering anything up, and Iâll prove it to you. And, we can all discuss. Iâm going to explain why subliminal audio isnât capable of this, even spilling a bit of boppable secrets (as in, Iâm going to get that text from @Fire thatâs like, âbro, really?â). Then, Iâm going to give you an inside look of what mind control REALLY looks like.
In 2010, Christopher Nolan released his hit movie, Inception. If you havenât seen this movie, the plot involves a group of hi-tech thieves with the technology to put you to sleep, force you to dream, break into your subconscious and steal your secrets. The targets generally included CEOs of large companies and other âpowerfulâ individuals. A billionaire energy magnate, Saito, hired the team to infiltrate the mind of his rival and perform something called âinception.â In the movie, âinceptionâ involves planting an idea in the subconscious of the targetâs mind so that theyâll believe the idea actually came from them. Otherwise, theyâd reject it.
This was demonstrated early on in the movie when one of the thieves told Saito, âDonât think of a white elephant.â Saito, of course, said he thought of a white elephant, as the subconscious mind is very much aware that the idea âdonât think of a white elephantâ didnât originate with himself.
The same is 100% true with audio based subliminals. More on that in a moment.
In the movie, to achieve Inception, the team had to physically infiltrate the deepest portion of the targetâs subconscious mind (risking their own lives in the process, as dying at that level would send them into an infinite subconscious creative space called limbo), then create a dream scenario in which the target would reveal the information needed to successfully perform inception, and then they had to act on that. In other words, the were only able to pull it off because they were able to enter the targetâs subconscious and observe the thoughts directly.
Audio subliminals do not work like this. Your mind is hyperaware that the influencing agent exists externally. This is why the âI am nowâŚâ type affirmations donât really work as well as youâd think in an audio based subliminal. They work best when youâre READING them, as the subconscious mind then recognizes that youâre trying to instill change within your self. And even then it still rejects half of them.
Reconciliation, stonewalling and lack of results are proof of this. Everyoneâs subconscious is different. Youâve seen the many threads of frustrated individuals who feel like they arenât receiving ANY results from their stack. Well, thatâs because their subconscious is simply ignoring the script. Thereâs a number of theoretical reasons of why this happens (which weâll discuss in another topic), but the fact of the matter is: if a script doesnât resonate with you, youâll simply ignore it.
Iâll give a good example: Our great sage, @Malkuth, when testing WANTED ZP, received little to no results. He mentioned that he could feel himself processing something, but nothing happened externally. Once I revealed that WANTED very much follows the archetype of the coquette, he expressed to us just how little he had in common with that style of romantic interaction. In other words, he simply ignored the script, without even knowing that it was âcoquettish.â It didnât fit with who he was, so nada.
Reconciliation, on the other hand, generally means (in our experience) that thereâs parts of the script you do want to integrate, but itâs clashing with existing ideas. As a result, you go through a process in which you evaluate both your existing beliefs, the new beliefs and you integrate what you want, and throw out the rest.
This is also why everyone gets different results when they run a title. CWON is very hard for me to run. I get lots of recon and sometimes even result reversal. My fiancee? Oh, sheâs glittering around growing plants and acting like a flower child. Everywhere she goes, people are giving her things for free, trying to engage with her, etc. Sheâs getting everything CWON has to offer. But, sheâs also the highly empathetic, always wanting to help someone type. It just fits her personality much better.
So, is it possible, with our subliminals, to convince you to do something you donât want to do? No. Can we program you to buy more and more titles? Absolutely not. If you saw the amount of piracy we have to deal with, youâd quickly see that anti-piracy style scripting is essentially useless.
You see, you canât deny the subconscious itâs right to consent. Itâs impossible. Free will seems to be etched into the fabric of who you are at the deepest level. The subconscious will not allow itself to be controlled⌠unless you can convince the subconscious to AGREE to the actual control. And that canât be done externally. It has to originate from within.
Remember what happened in Inception? They didnât actually âplantâ an idea in the targetâs mind. The target planted his own idea. If you watch the movie, youâll see what I mean. All the thieves did was create dream scenarios in which the targetâs subconscious would then fill up with its own symbology.
So, how does this occur in âthe real world?â Very simple. Social media algorithms. How do I know? Because I actually worked on these types of things before becoming an entrepreneur. Iâll give a simplified, but still illustrative example of how this works â and you can do the research yourself. Itâs true:
When you browse the Internet while being logged into a social media platform, everything you do is being sent back to that platform. Understand, you donât even have to have Facebook open in a window, or whatever. Ever notice how once you log into Facebook, it never actually logs you out? Thatâs by design, as all your searches, website visits, clicks, EVERYTHING is being sent back to the platform and they begin to build a data model based around who you are. And itâs surprisingly accurate, as youâre supplying them with everything they need.
If you also have social media platforms running on your phone, theyâre mining even MORE data. Your phone contains a gyro sensor that can sense angular velocity. In other words, they know when your phone is moving around in your pocket, when youâre holding it, etc. Because of that, they know what time you get up, what time you go to bed. What time you tend to go to lunch.
When you mix that with all your Internet browsing data, they can tell you exactly what youâre most likely to do before you do it. They know what types of social media posts youâll interact with. They know which ones youâll downvote. They know which ones youâll ignore. They know everything.
And what do they do with this data? Two things. First, they sell it to advertisers and marketers. This is what I used to do. I could use the platformâs marketing interface and target specific interests and actions, then pay to display ads to you.
Using the tools, I could do something called an âA/B Test.â With this, I could create two variants of an ad and then the social media platform would show variant A to 50% of people and variant B to 50% of people. Then, Iâd set a conversion metric, like⌠âClick âLearn Moreâ Button.â The test would run to completion, and then itâd tell me which variant performed better. Letâs say that âBâ won. Iâd then analyze the data to see why âBâ performed better, then Iâd start a new test with âBâ competing against a new variant. Usually, the new competing variant âCâ would look very similar to âB,â with minor changes (so we can accurately determine why a variant succeeded or failed).
Think Iâm lying?
They hide this under titles like âGrowth Hacker,â but trust me â itâs all the same. And how effective is this âgrowth hacking?â
Well, the salary for an AVERAGE growth hacker is around $90k: Growth Hacker with A/B Testing Skills Salary | PayScale
When I lived in California, I made $120k doing it.
And hereâs where it gets a bit insiduous.
The second thing they do is use that data to adjust your social feeds. You see, they know exactly what types of posts youâll interact with and how those posts make you feel. Thatâs the real reason for the different âemotionsâ you can react to a post on Facebook with. Using Natural Language Processing (not the NLP you already know about, neurolingistic progamming, but training AI models to understand spoken language â see IBM Watson, which competed on Jeopardy), they can parse your responses and assign an emotional quotient to it. They use that emotional quotient to predict just how angry, or happy, or sad a particular post will make you.
Then, they take you on a rollercoaster. Theyâll show you posts that make you happy for a bit, then theyâll start showing posts designed to crash your mood. This rollercoaster action, going back and forth between emotional poles keeps you addicted and swiping. The entire time, theyâre collecting this information and using it to improve the accuracy of your data model.
Why do you think, when it comes to politics, you very rarely see positions in the middle? Itâs always one extreme or another. They show you the very worst of the political opinions you disagree with and the very best of the ones you do agree with. Over time, you slowly begin to believe that ALL individuals belonging to the âopposingâ affiliation holds the same extreme beliefs that youâre seeing on social media.
And guess what, youâre telling them exactly how to manipulate you AND consenting to it, since all of their data is originating from YOUR OWN ACTIONS.
Before you get angry and rage, remember that they donât even hide this fact. Thereâs entire Facebook sponsored advertising courses that will tell you this. Itâs in their terms of service, which we never read. You can go to marketing blogs right now and get all kinds of information on the various algorithms and how they work.
Most people just donât care. As long as they get that social media fix, who cares what the mental cost is. When you think about it from the standpoint that youâre giving your willing consent for a third party to shape your views, you canât even get mad â youâre allowing them to do it. The company has to make money SOMEHOW. It has to keep you on the apps SOMEHOW. And from my standpoint, they arenât even the ones manipulating you â youâre doing it to yourself because YOU MUST CONSENT.
With an external audio subliminal, we canât do that. No matter what we put in that script, your mind will always know that the ideas didnât originate from yourself. But with social media, every thought, every action, everything is originating from you. The cold, calculating algorithm is merely using the information you give it to make a more entertaining platform⌠and the side effect is that your beliefs and thoughts literally begin to change.
Something to think about deeply: Hulu is doing the same thing with their targeted ads now. And which is more effective at convincing you to do something⌠like grabbing something to eat: a paragraph describing a hot cheesy pizza, or a video of a delicious pizza?