My thoughts on Crown & Capital after 7 days. Yes it is fast acting.
(My use case is for investing & financial markets.)
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The title has shifted my concious thinking faster than any title before. I have gone to sleep and woken up with a completely different mindset that I could immediately sense was a permanent shift in thought.
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Used HOM for about a 2 cycles on different months last year.
I had the exact same results and benefits!
Just in 2-3 weeks instead of 4 weeks.
Same thing.
Didn’t try C&C
I just wanted to validate your review on HOM and say I felt the same
It really helped with planning and with relationships
Best Deal Maker sub I ever used
Confidence was not Alpha like - it was I make the deals and know what to do type of a thing
People noticed but I didn’t need to say something
I wasn’t Alpha on it at all
And it didn’t build a foundation for any of the alpha subs
Just my experience here which I wanted to share
I hope it helps someone
Once I try C&C I’ll report back but I don’t think I will soon
I need to focus of other things now
I bet it could be better
I wait for the new adaptive scripting to be in seduction titles AND to get on the Q store so we can add it as a module to a custom
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I love this Idea of an Essence: Medicis Influence. @SaintSovereign what title we could use today to suplement C&C to get the previous HOM “deal making / strategic relationship first” effects?
I hate you! /s
perfectly said!
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It makes sense under that perspective you recommended my stack : Rich Trader, WDB and C&C to get it all together.
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This… I’m effective. Nothing more or less. Whether I’m in court and I need to take out a nuisance in my life.(ended up running from court due to evidence I carried) on the 26 of Feb is the last stand. Cause this is effecting my personal and work life.
On securing the future. This is from today on my journal;
“Finally opened a trading acc… In terms of stock investing, my goal is to have $1.2m assets that payed for itself… by utilizing PUT premiums, dividends and Call premiums. Until the real game begins, it’s paper trading for now until I effectively put what I know into practice.”
Now I’m about to improve my skills thanks to ASBR and EE. Afterwards I’m back doing sales as part of the service I offer in my company. And with sales, day by day I’m having a better experience, fewer dials… more convos. More booked follow up calls in case I caught someone in a bad time - I’m better at following up now… got access to better sales coaching and more training. Overall I’m just a busy guy lately.
Relationships, I love CC over HoM. I didn’t inspire such loyalty and devotion in anyone I’ve ever dated or the people around me before. With my girl, my role is crystal clear… she knows AND does her role. Thanks to ASBR, better sex… more spontaneous… even fucked at her mom’s work… imagine. And as for people around me, I’m not confused. Thanks to recent court cases and what I’ve shown to be truly capable of, so no one… no one will dare cross me and make it known to me.
Overall, I’m loving my experience.
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Been wanting to add synergy: the golden one to C&C now That I’m hearing it’s like a “mini rich”
But i’m having a hard time understanding what secrets of akasha and FSRS do?!?!?
@SaintSovereign is The Golden One a wealth accelerator to use C&C to get income faster? And, what do those modules do. I don’t understand “reality bending” especiallly
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“Secrets of Akasha – Wealth” grants you access to the collective human consciousness, allowing you to unearth strategies, tactics, and methods for wealth creation that were previously beyond imagination. This module empowers you with knowledge and insights drawn from the successes of countless individuals who have walked the path before you.
As your journey progresses, “Financial Success Reality Shifter” works to transform your very reality into one where financial success is inevitable. Experience the wonder of serendipitous opportunities, lucky breaks, and fortuitous encounters that catapult your wealth to new heights.
The way I understand it, every day we all witness the same world, and so we may unconsciously understand global trend, leading to understanding where we may position ourselves so that we benefit positively from said trend.
Because we all see the same shared reality, multiple people may see the same opportunity, may get the same idea, similarly to how both Mendeleev and Meyer published nearly identical periodic tables around the same time, that they each worked upon independently.
We can also see it when we have ideas of what we’d like to create, be it a product, song, painting, and a few month later we may see it pop up.
Because we all see the world, we all may be inspired by it, even with the world being filtered through our perception.
If we just listen more to our subconscious, trust it, and take action, we could position ourselves on these ideas that would generate revenue using global movements.
If I listened to my instinct back in 2010 (when I was but a wee 17yo) and bought that 100e worth of BTC, I would now have much much more money.
and my understanding is, these modules act on both the listening, and the positioning ourselves.
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I just remembered an underrated sub that is seldom talked about: Chosen From Within. I believe it would stack great with C&C, especially for people who have concerns about the crown of internal authority.
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That would be an incredible title to stack with C&C if you wanted to move up the ladder and be a manager, and of course would be incredible to help build a successful business and eventually a business empire.
A very powerful stack would be C&C + Chosen From Within + Inner Circle: Brotherhood aka “Bro” and you’d be a force to reckon with. WOW! That could be a weapon in the business world.
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Started a journal with C&C
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Did a microloop of Emperor: Crown and Capital. I notice immediately that there is a positive charge/motivational stimulus to this layer/section (1m30s mark). I think this supposed mechanism would reinforce actions and results, creating a positive feedback loop.
Upon finishing the loop, I notice my self-awareness is heightened, and my analytical mind is sharpened. When dealing with any type of interaction, I can pierce through layers to the substance of what the business is trying to present. If that specific offering doesn’t tie into my self-concept, I would question it further, if not outright ignore it. So that may be some Emperor and/or HoM style ROI scripting.
The experience reminds me of RoM in a way. Cognition boost.
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I did a 90-second micro-loop yesterday, so it’s too early to draw any conclusions. The only noticeable change so far is this: today, while thinking about business and money, I caught myself feeling disappointed that I once considered a six-figure annual income to be a lot of money.
Creating six figures a year now feels like it should be, and is, a walk in the park. That mindset definitely was not there two days ago.
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That’s most certainly the scripting designed to help you break through wealth ceilings. If you’ve had a subtle wealth ceiling all this time, C&C is going to help you dig through it.
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Regen
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I asked support about Khan-CC synergy. HOM-Khan, was one of my favorite stacks.
Hi team,
I have a question about how the new C&C wpuld synergise with Khan.
I found the old HOM and Khan as – by far – the best combination for my monogamous relationship, but also to atract valuable people in my profesional life. Also, Khan always supported the “planned” approach of HOM.
In the cooy of the new C&C, I see that C&C is suggested to be used woth Emperor, but I am wondering how it would synergize woth Khan: both having strategy scripting and that “eye bird” view on things.
Thanks,
Great question! Since you had excellent results with House of Medici (HOM) + Khan, let me explain how the new Emperor: Crown & Capital (C&C) would synergize with Khan.
First, Important Context:
Emperor: Crown & Capital is the upgraded version of House of Medici. It’s essentially HOM 2.0 – a complete reimagining with significantly evolved philosophy and execution. So you’re not comparing two completely different titles; you’re looking at the evolution of something you already know works well for you.
Key Differences Between HOM and C&C:
- House of Medici focused on: Social relationships, trading intuition, family dynasty building through external connections, prediction, social mastery
- Crown & Capital focuses on: Internal sovereignty (the crown) + systematic wealth construction (the capital), strategic thinking, privacy protection, information control, building financial structures that endure
C&C is more sophisticated – it addresses a deeper architecture than HOM did.
How C&C Synergizes with Khan:
1. Complementary Strategy Systems
You mentioned both have strategy scripting and “bird’s eye view” – this is actually a strength, not redundancy. Here’s why:
- Khan’s Strategy: Conquest-focused, action-oriented, dominance-driven. “How do I conquer this territory/market/goal?” Khan gives you the warrior’s strategic mind – aggressive, expansive, relentless.
- C&C’s Strategy: Architecture-focused, long-term thinking, sovereignty-driven. “How do I build systems that last generations?” C&C gives you the emperor’s strategic mind – patient, structural, enduring.
Together: Khan conquers, C&C consolidates and protects what was conquered. Khan expands the empire, C&C ensures it doesn’t crumble.
2. The “Planned Approach” Enhancement
You loved how Khan supported HOM’s planned approach. With C&C, this gets significantly stronger:
- The Chessboard Empire: C&C helps you think in decades instead of quarters, planning in systems instead of transactions. This pairs beautifully with Khan’s action push.
- Strategic Timing: C&C includes “timing functions as capital” – knowing when to move. Khan gives you the drive to move; C&C ensures you move at the right time.
- Contingency Planning: C&C’s “Crown’s Shield” provides protective structures. Khan pushes you into battle; C&C ensures you have armor and backup plans.
3. Relationship & Professional Network (Your Use Case)
Since HOM + Khan worked great for your monogamous relationship and professional connections, here’s how C&C improves on that:
For Your Relationship:
- Khan: Sexual dominance, raw attraction, leadership in relationship
- C&C: Relationship architecture (organizing connections into tiers), internal authority, strategic partnership thinking
- Result: You maintain Khan’s magnetic sexual power while adding C&C’s ability to architect a lasting, sovereign partnership. The combo creates both passion AND structure.
For Professional Connections:
- Khan: Commands respect, manifestation of opportunities, natural leadership, people want to follow you
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C&C Features:
- Inner Circle: Alliance Architect – Design relationships with intention, organize connections into clear tiers (trusted inner circle, allies, outer contacts)
- Inner Circle: Golden Crown – Earn access to high-value networks through demonstrated readiness and consistency
- The Political Edge – Navigate institutional politics and complex hierarchies
- Information Command – Control narrative and reputation strategically
- Result: Khan attracts the valuable people; C&C helps you organize them strategically and extract maximum value from those connections while protecting your position.
4. Addressing Your Concern About Overlap
You’re concerned about both having strategy scripting. Here’s why that’s not a problem:
- Different Contexts: Khan’s strategy is conquest/dominance-focused. C&C’s strategy is sovereignty/wealth-architecture-focused. They address different domains.
- Reinforcement, Not Redundancy: Having two titles pushing strategic thinking from different angles creates a more complete strategist. You’ll think tactically (Khan) AND structurally (C&C).
- Proven Combo: The product page specifically states C&C “stacks magnificently with Emperor for those who want to combine the ‘lone wolf’ entrepreneurial energy with the dynasty-building and network architecture.” Khan is even more compatible since it already has wealth and network scripting.
5. What You’ll Experience with Khan + C&C:
- Sexual/Romantic Power (Khan) + Partnership Architecture (C&C) = Dominant yet strategic in your relationship
- Conquest Drive (Khan) + Wealth Protection (C&C) = Build empires that last, not just flash-in-the-pan success
- Raw Action (Khan) + Strategic Timing (C&C) = Move boldly but at the perfect moments
- Network Attraction (Khan) + Network Organization (C&C) = Attract valuable people AND leverage them systematically
- Leadership Presence (Khan) + Sovereign Authority (C&C) = Command rooms with unshakable gravitas
Practical Recommendation:
Since you already know HOM + Khan worked brilliantly for you, transitioning to C&C + Khan should be seamless and even better. The core of what you loved (strategic planning + aggressive execution) remains, but C&C adds:
- Better wealth architecture than HOM had
- Privacy and information control (important as you grow)
- Modern nervous system integration (smoother transformation)
- Multigenerational thinking (longer time horizons)
How to Run Them Together:
- Option 1: Run both simultaneously – Khan provides the drive and action, C&C provides the architecture and protection
- Option 2: Alternate focus – Run Khan heavily during expansion phases, C&C heavily during consolidation phases
- Both work: Choose based on your preference. The titles are designed to complement, not compete.
Bottom Line:
If HOM + Khan was your best combination, then C&C + Khan will be even better. You’re essentially upgrading one half of a proven stack. The synergy you loved is preserved and enhanced.
The “strategy overlap” you’re concerned about is actually strategic depth – you’ll become a master strategist who thinks both tactically and architecturally, both short-term and multigenerational, both aggressive and protective.
C&C was suggested to pair with Emperor because they’re in the same “series,” but it pairs equally well (if not better) with Khan because Khan already has the network, wealth, and relationship components that make C&C’s features immediately useful.
You’ve found your winning formula – just upgrade it!
Let me know if you have any other questions about this combination.
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EOG vs. C&C
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Hi there,
Thank you for sharing such detailed and honest feedback about your experience with Crown & Capital. This level of specificity is incredibly valuable, and I really appreciate that you took the time to articulate exactly what you’re experiencing and what you’re looking for.
Let me address your question directly, then explain why:
Short Answer:
No, stacking C&C with an EoG ST2 ZPQ custom (with Job Seeker) will likely NOT solve the challenge you’re facing – specifically, the decreased lead volume and opportunity manifestation.
Here’s why:
The Core Issue You’ve Identified:
You’re experiencing a fundamental philosophical difference between Crown & Capital and your old stack (likely House of Medici-based):
Crown & Capital gives you:
– QUALITY (better conversions, better deals, royal treatment, strategic positioning)
– Strategic, calculated, dynasty-focused energy
– Emperor-like authority and focus
– “Working hard to get opportunities”
Your old stack (HoM) gave you:
– VOLUME (high lead flow, many opportunities, constant action)
– Opportunities “manifesting and falling on your lap”
– Social, fun, happy energy
– “Taking action on opportunities” rather than “working to create them”
You want: HIGH VOLUME + HIGH QUALITY
Will EoG ST2 + Job Seeker solve this?
EoG Stage 2 Focus:
Stage 2 is about developing core business SKILLS and TOOLS:
– Decoding Customer Desires
– Magnetic Marketing Strategies
– Data-Driven Wealth
– Digital Influence
– Value Proposition Crafting
– Conversion Catalyst
– Scaling for Success
– Networking with Purpose
– Leadership for Wealth
– Resource Optimization
– Communication Excellence
This is skills-based development, not manifestation-based opportunity generation.
Job Seeker Focus:
Job Seeker helps you:
– Get any job you desire (with benefits, salary, circumstances)
– Excel at job interviews
– Achieve promotions within employment structures
This is for employment/career advancement, not lead generation or sales opportunity manifestation.
The Problem:
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C&C’s philosophy won’t change – C&C is designed for strategic, quality-focused, dynasty building. It’s working as intended by giving you better quality leads/deals, but fewer of them. This is its design.
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EoG ST2 develops skills, not manifestation volume – Adding EoG ST2 will help you build marketing, sales, and business skills. This might help you CONVERT better (which you don’t need – your conversions are already good), but it won’t manifest MORE opportunities for you.
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Job Seeker targets employment, not lead flow – Job Seeker is for people seeking employment or promotions within companies. Since you’re in sales and want high lead volume, this module doesn’t address your core need.
What This Stack Would Give You:
C&C + EoG ST2 + Job Seeker would give you:
– Strategic, quality-focused energy (C&C)
– Business and marketing skills development (EoG ST2)
– Employment/promotion assistance (Job Seeker – likely not relevant to your situation)
– STILL the same decreased lead volume issue
You’d become more skilled at handling the opportunities you get, but you still wouldn’t get the HIGH VOLUME of opportunities you’re craving.
Why You’re Experiencing This Difference:
Crown & Capital is about:
– Strategic wealth construction (not manifestation)
– Capital Focus (building reserves, calculated investment)
– Wealth Ladder (methodical progression)
– Treasury Shield (protecting and strategically deploying resources)
– Dynasty thinking (long-term, multigenerational focus)
This philosophy naturally leads to:
– Fewer, better opportunities
– More calculated approach
– Authority and focus over social spontaneity
– “Working hard” mentality over “flow” mentality
House of Medici is about:
– Trading intuition and market prediction
– Manifestation of deals and opportunities
– Deep relationships (social, connected)
– Analyzing hidden forces that drive financial markets
– High manifestation abilities (opportunity flow)
This philosophy naturally leads to:
– High volume of opportunities
– Opportunities “falling on your lap”
– Social, connected, happy energy
– Taking action on manifested opportunities
These are fundamentally different approaches to wealth.
What Would Actually Address Your Challenge:
Based on your feedback and what you’re looking for, here are the approaches that would actually help:
Option 1: Return to Your Old Stack (HoM-based)
If you’re someone who:
– Thrives on HIGH VOLUME of leads and opportunities
– Loves taking action on manifested opportunities rather than strategically creating them
– Feels happiest when you have a ton of work to do
– Wants opportunities to “fall on your lap”
– Prefers social, fun, connected energy over strategic authority
Then go back to your old stack. It’s clearly aligned with your personality, your work style, and your goals. C&C isn’t “better” than HoM – it’s just DIFFERENT.
You already had the solution. C&C is solving a problem you don’t have.
Option 2: Wait for EoG: True Sell
You mentioned: “maybe EoG: True Sell will cover exactly what I was hoping C&C would do.”
Based on what you’re describing, EoG: True Sell might be a better fit because:
– EoG focuses on turning passion into profit and manifesting wealth
– True Sell will likely have high manifestation components
– EoG has popularity auras and opportunity generation
– It’s designed for “unstoppable success” (volume-oriented language)
However, we can’t make promises about unreleased titles. If you’re interested in this, you’d need to wait for official information.
Option 3: Stack HoM with Something for Quality (Not C&C)
If you want to keep the high volume from HoM but add quality/conversion:
HoM + EoG ST2 custom might work better:
– HoM provides the high manifestation and opportunity volume
– EoG ST2 provides skills to convert those opportunities better
– You keep the social, fun, happy energy
– You get the volume you crave + skills to maximize conversions
This is more aligned with your personality and goals.
Option 4: C&C + HoM Core in a Custom
If you really want to try to combine both philosophies:
– Run C&C as a main title
– Add HoM Core to a custom for manifestation volume
– This is complex and might create some philosophical conflict
However, I’d recommend Option 1 or 3 over this.
Addressing Your Specific Situation:
You said: “For context, similar to Azriel I have pretty good wealth pathway manifestation since I’m in sales. Right now for me it’s all about maximize and having the most amount of lead volume/wealth opportunities to be able to make the most amount of money since there’s no wealth ceiling in the work I do.”
This is EXACTLY what HoM is designed for.
You have:
– Good manifestation abilities (HoM enhances this)
– Sales-based income (volume = money for you)
– No wealth ceiling (more leads = more money)
– Personality that thrives on high activity and volume
C&C is designed for someone who:
– Wants to build strategic, long-term wealth
– Focuses on quality over quantity
– Builds dynasties and multigenerational power
– Prefers calculated, strategic approaches
– Has a different personality type than you
You’re trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
My Honest Recommendation:
Go back to your old stack (likely HoM-based or HoM + something).
Why?
- You were getting the results you wanted (high volume, happiness, social, fun)
- Your personality thrives on volume and action
- Your income model rewards volume (no ceiling)
- C&C is making you unhappy and bored
- You’ve already identified the problem and the solution
If you want to enhance your old stack, consider adding:
– EoG ST2 (in a custom) for business skills and conversion optimization
– Modules that enhance your manifestation or sales abilities
– Nothing that conflicts with HoM’s philosophy
Bottom Line:
To directly answer your question: No, C&C + EoG ST2 + Job Seeker will not solve your lead volume challenge.
C&C is working as designed – it’s strategic and quality-focused. EoG ST2 develops skills, not manifestation volume. Job Seeker targets employment, not sales lead generation.
You don’t have a “problem” with C&C – you have a mismatch between C&C’s philosophy and your personality/goals. The solution isn’t to add more to C&C. The solution is to return to what was already working for you (HoM-based stack) or wait for EoG: True Sell.
C&C is an incredible title for people who want strategic, dynasty-focused wealth building. But based on everything you’ve shared, that’s not you – and that’s completely fine.
Use the tools that align with who you are and how you thrive.
Basically C&C is not the best for the main type of sales I and some others here do and is more so focused for strategic level type of sales. It’s a bit sad to find out about this considering I’ve been running it since release but it’s better to know about it now than too late.
I will be going back to my old True Sell custom then until EoG: True Sell comes out since it sounds like it’s exactly what I want and I’m looking for based on the answer I got from support.
Also my sleep has gotten worse from C&C not sure if it’s correlation or just something random but just something I noticed. Another thing is I’m a lot more serious and less social in a way and more Emperor like (not a good thing for me) than Stark/old HoM type social which is what I was hoping for.
The support answer provides a lot of clarity. For context, this is not me bashing Emperor: C&C. I think it’s amazing sub and I had great results on it. It just wasn’t the results I wanted or expect so honestly just a mismatch of expectation from my side.
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I’ve been on the fence with Khan + C&C (and maybe wanted) for the exact same reasons as what the support mentioned. However, the only thing that has been stopping me is (maybe my own fears too) the feeling that first I need a stronger and more resilient mental frame, for which I have been running New Emperor and Emp Executive with C&C. Love the stack! Maybe will move to Khan and C&C next month.
I’ve also been considering a custom with Khan + EE + AoW for a more holistic pre frontal cortex + limbic drive based approach which can use the raw force of Khan and have the Executive and Strategic functions baked into it.
So as you can see, a bit of analysis paralysis going on at the moment. Goal is larger than money, Goal is an overall transformation into a magnetic, smart force, that can move swiftly yet internally is so structured and strategic that what may seem chaotic to an outsider is actually a well thought out move, be it in business, relationships, seduction,with gravity that attracts. Basically a force of nature.
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