thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my questions.
i sincerely appreciate it.
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bro your ability to explain things is incredible.
you have verbalized things i could kind of feel but it was blury and your old posts have brought so much clarity in my understanding of how to best use these titles.
your old post are a goldmine and i cannot thank you enough for writing in such a clear way.
a few more questions for you if you dont mind:
yes this is how it feels to me as well just i did not have the ability to explain it in such a clear way like you have here.
but what about khan,wanted and libertine?
if emperor is status based attractionā¦
and primal seduction is intense penetrative sexual energy
how would you describe libertine,wanted and khan in these aspects?
yes matches my experience as well.
but how do you think someone can increase that penetrative sexual energy coming from the groin that primal seduction generates?
what do you think i should do to generate as much of that energy as possible?
is that what khan can do? or maybe something can be combined with primal seduction to achieve this?
you are talking about the sexual energy from primal seduction here right?
if yes, then that is exactly what im looking for/
i sometimes experience this on primal seduction but not as frequently and as intensely as i would like.
what do you recommend i do to increase the frequency and intensity of this effect?
did you ever end up experiencing this level of insane attraction on ZP?
thanks again for the help.
Thatās awesome, your most welcome
Libertine to me is like reverse ārollingā or reverse mdma. The joke is when your on it-you want to touch everyone. Thatās how the world responds to you. Iām joking of course -but itās basically pure attraction and interest. It makes it really easy to engage. Itās like an environmental enhancer and less personal than other seductions subs/aura in my experience.
nothing social etc, so without social status or skills that attraction can easily be leveraged by those around you after someoneās interest and āarousalā has been brought up. It works best with a sub like Khan which to me is the sub that has woman have eyes only for you.
To describe simply- Libertine -V1 is expansive based attraction- it heats up the temperature in the room
Libertine V2 is expansion based attraction with a hunter element to it. Better at leveraging that temperature increase.
When it hits- libertine is pure chemistry and equality- we are mesmerized by each other and donāt need words
Wanted I have not run enough or solo enough to truly comment.
If I had to I would say wanted is not penetrative consistently - itās your the music and others will sync with your beat, you change tunes, they follow, you change back, they follow. It has romantic elements, status elements, like young sister like her brothers cool older friend status, sexual elements, and genuine admiration elements that swirl to create an intrigue. Iāve run it more with Khan, where it softens things.
I think is less the domain of sus specifically and more the domain of things akin to sexual yoga practice/ energy work.
I think no-PMO would support this a lot, after a lapse period.
Sub wise- Inner Gasoline as a module may help
Think about why you want to achieve this goal ? That will inform what to run sub wise.
If itās to be in touch with our sexuality or feel comfort be with/ even in a penetrative manner than I believe primal, PS, or khan could accomplish this.
thereās a user here who studied some really cool stuff related to this, once I remember his name Iāll ask if I can connect you to him to reference what he studied.
Yes
not the volume of celebrity attention, but certainly the level of attraction.
Iāve also not run nearly the same customs/stacks.
Donāt be concerned ZP is way better in every way. Youāll get where you want to with it.
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are you talking about ZP here?
so ZP v1 and ZP v2?
can you please share what you think of khanin this aspect?
you broke down libertine and wanted but not khan.
if emperor is status based attractionā¦
and primal seduction is intense penetrative sexual energy
what is khan?
this is very interesting and again matches my experience.
but i noticed you specifically said āafter a lapse periodā
what do you mean by that?
yes please do.
thanks again for all the help; this is incredibly helpful.
sometimes peopleās sexual energy/drive initially goes down when they stop porn.
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can you please share what you think of khanin this aspect?
you broke down libertine and wanted but not khan.
if emperor is status based attractionā¦
and primal seduction is intense penetrative sexual energy
what is khan?
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Khan works on a few levels
it is a mix of
- who you are as a man is so incredible and high status it generates attraction
- your sexual energy and dominance is very strong that also generates visceral sexual attraction.
- Your social calibration and intuitive understanding or dynamics, without be āenergeticallyā effected by them but with capacity to influence them in your favor, is so strong it makes it easy to win people
- There is a belief and sense in yourself as the right choice
- Concern of attraction or status stops running in the background, this creates an incredible sense of freedom and an external focus on what you actually want (not managing oneself or needing to be good enough) this focus on mission is incredibly attractive objectively. Internally the state is of someone who wins in life, there is actually a less narcissistic focus of self obsession and management, and more on making things happen.
- There is a belief that one is the best choice possible for any woman without being entitled or arrogant. I really donāt understand how this works but thatās how I would describe it. And woman in my experience either very quickly fall in line with this or itās a clear no fit.
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yes i have noticed this as well
inetersting.
this is the first time our experiences do NOT match at all.
my experience with khan for attraction is not like this at all.
honestly for me khan has been the worst for attraction.
primal seduction, libertine and wanted have all been clearly more effective.
im talking about khan stage 4 here.
maybe ill have better results with other stages.
Yeah dude,
These are just my experiences,
to some degree theyāll line up with a more universal experience of the sub
or with others
in some they wont.
I ran Khan stage 1 for about 8 months in a custom so that likely helped.
Did you run any of the stages or just jump into stage 4?
There may be stuff to go through before you experience the ācreamā of Khan.
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i started on stage 3 but not for attraction.
for attraction i have only tested stage 4.
i had hoped it would be like primal seduction but more intense/frequent.
but given that khan seems to not even have that same penetrative sexual energy i probably will not test khan at all again anytime soon.
i might test stage 1 as when i ran that it felt similar to primal seduction though i was never around women to confirm the effects where the same.
Not concerned at all. It was just 10 seconds. The ears can handle it. You may get some temporary tinnitus but should not last long at all.
That said, have you made sure your computer speakers produce ultrasound?
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Thanks,
Nothing unusual after the incident outside a temporary bump.
Appreciate the reassurance, means a lot.
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I realize Iāve been doing a few things against the ārulesā/ recommendations
- Iām not washing out for 5 days every 21 days
- Iām running 3 titles a cycle usually 5-10 minutes of two titles and 15 minutes of another title every other day.
- I break my listening into 2,3, 5, 10 minutes sessions back and forth between titles
- Iāve lowered my EOG stage 2 down to 1 loop a week to add in 1 loop of true sell for testing.
Iāve had progress with 1-3. While Iāve experienced the benefits of TS even as a 4th title. I would not do this ongoingly as I can feel the pull on my āresourcesā and have a bit less pep, drive, and discipline is carrying me through.
I also want to add at least a 3 day washout every 21 days
My experience with True Sell is perhaps slightly diluted as a 4th title in the stack.
Iāll say a few things about it
- When it hits-it hits- I say these things that are like ābombsā in the space- it like you can feel things shifting and others are left with an experience that really moves them
- It seems to increase increase and attraction
- It makes it very easy for me to be social, a little too social though- I like when I say exactly what I want and itās clean and pristine and my articulation and syntax is on point, itās like I can be generative but its in alignment with my integrity. Iāve noticed I can find myself being āgabbyā/ a bit verbose/ engaging without thinking. I also find I can trip over what I am saying, and backpedaling- conversely at times, I can find myself both stalled for words, overly judgmental of what I am saying or feel there is no point in speaking. These are likely forms of recon
- There is an increase confidence and belief in standing out, and making an impression. Normally I have -theyāll get me or they want- know I have a sense and responsibility that I will get myself noticed.
- People are nicer than usual and I find getting little things very easy, people seem to like to say yes.
- There were a few instances of getting a kind of attention-that is, for me, slightly annoying/unnerving, from men. Itās like a mixture of extreme admiration with a bit to much comfort.
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hey bro,
have these results with revelation of mind lasted for you?
how would you compare true sell vs PCC when it comes to the social aspect specifically for seduction/women.
if you had to pick one to include in a seduction/attraction stack which would you pick and why?
Hey @Azriel
This is probably reconciliation, but how do you find HoM regrading women attraction. The first attraction and MAINTAINING that attraction(the push pull and the emotional roller coaster stuff and everything, overall the seduction).
On HoM I am positive, laughingā¦I worry if it kills the attraction hahah
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My focus is not on attraction or dating at all.
With HOM Iām on EOG stage 2and Emperor and lately on True Sell.
Pre- True Sell- my attraction and interest was strong, on true sell is even stronger.
I get a lot of interest at the gym and at times have been super engaging with the woman Iām attracted to there. They light up and are super receptive.
HOM doesnāt kill attraction, if anything it can influence a relationship towards whatever direction you want -(from a distance or close) even romantic, the status also helps, it doesnāt have any sexual umph or seduction though.
You were not here at the time, but I ran HOM with PS once and a girl I used to know ended up knocking on my door cause she had moved to the neighborhood, heard I lived there and want help getting into her locked out house, we ended almost getting into a huge fight on the porch, I des-escalated it, then she just looked at me and was like ā I want you right nowā we ended up hooking up and she spent the night.
So HOM is great with other seduction subs, in and of itself itās not a sexual drive.
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Niiiice bro, Thanks for your help.
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Lotās of great updates coming soon. As well as new journal
That said Iām here to move something for my alchemical process
I have to consciously vent and get some emotion out.
THIS IS A RANT AND RECON just letting it out:
I am so FXXXING annoyed. I keep getting incredibly close to really nice- to game changing
wins- and it occurs like nothing is landing. Iām still floating a few thing but stuff keep slipping through.
I donāt know what itās going to take to finalize some of these projects, deals, contracts
but I am really pissed off. Iāve been working on many things for months, and some new things more recently and literally nothing is just landing or closing. Iāll look at myself and my performance as I have been but I find myself in uber judgement mode of the situations, of my self, and just have to vent it subliminals
I keep saying āwith this edge and firepowerā this shit should land given all other factors. I put in the work, I take action like crazy, I recalibrate, I work on quantity and quality. I donāt know wtf is up.
My big contacts and great relations are being flaky.
Opportunities are coming in and I know a part of that is subs- and then Iām judging myself for not being able to make the most of it. Anyone just getting that out
Iām aware I may be seeing the worst right now
EMPTYING OUT 
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thanks @Tobyone
Emptying out good
closed $25K in sales today. With pendings and new leads on my way to 50k+
Day 2 week 1
average is 6-10K in first 2 weeks for new people.
Itās crazy- first step of victory in this area
now out to cause victory in Biz dev.
So my goal is 100K sales a week in one role -sales
and 5 million in capital sourced in the other- Biz Dev
Out to cause victories in both this week.
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hey bro,
i came across some interetsing posts you made about nofap.
you said this just over 2 years ago.
do you stand by this in the ZP era?
also, are you saying nofap helps you get better subliminal results overall on all titles or only on sex related titles like primal seduction, libertine.etcā¦
or are you syaing you get better results even from subs that have nothing to do with sex when on nofap?
also, what is your definition of nofap?
and how long after you are on your version of nofap do you start to see increased subliminal results?
can you please share what you are talking about here?
@TheQuestion Iām sure Iāve made this joke before but
You really live up to your name
Iāll get to all of this
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Keeping this journal from non direct pupose/new stack related musings
Not sure if Emperor bloom, but I am horny AF!
I feel like Iām just winning at everything. Maybe a testosterone thing.
Iām actually present to where I judge myself as a loser and practice labeling that as my Judge.
This helps with winning momentum. Credit the book *Positive Intelligence ***
There are people who say reading is key to success and people who say itās a waste of time just focus on what matters. I canāt tell you how valuable I find reading. I read/ listen- (often both) 4-6 books a month and it just makes connecting everything in life easier. And then of course you get your practical nuggets. I plan on re-reading a lot.
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