Azriel-All Wealth -Rainmaker

[Azriel]

If the copy indicated metrics in increase incomeor wealth or just a % of of income from presence not required

Yes — and the distinction you’re pointing to is exactly the right one.
Here is the precise answer, grounded in the copy you pasted.

Short Answer (Clear and Direct)

Crown & Capital does not primarily suggest a metric of “how much income or wealth you make.”
It primarily suggests a metric of how income and wealth are structured — specifically, how little they depend on your constant presence and emotional labor.

Income and wealth growth are expected outcomes, but they are secondary indicators, not the core measurement.

What the Copy Explicitly Optimizes For

If we strip the metaphors and look at what’s repeated again and again, the copy is obsessed with structure, resilience, and endurance, not raw accumulation.

Key phrases signal this clearly:

• “not dependent on continuous effort”
• “systems that persist even when your attention is elsewhere”
• “fortress”
• “resilient rather than fragile”
• “structures that compound”
• “income that does not require your constant presence”
• “empire, not a house of cards”
• “what remains standing when you’re gone”

These are architectural metrics, not income targets.

What Crown & Capital Measures First (Primary Metrics)

Dependence on Presence

The most important implied metric is:

How much of your income, influence, and stability collapses if you step away?

If stepping away causes:

• income to stop
• deals to stall
• authority to evaporate

→ Crown & Capital has not succeeded yet.

Structural Leverage

The copy consistently points to:

• equity
• ownership
• systems
• recurring structures
• layered assets
• delegated execution

So the real question becomes:

Does effort convert into structures that keep producing?

This is not “how much did you make this month?”
It’s “what did this month build that will still work next year?”

Resilience to Shock

Another core metric is:

How well does your wealth survive volatility?

The copy emphasizes:

• diversification
• treasury shield
• contingency planning
• downside protection
• privacy and discretion

So wealth is measured by:

• how little panic you feel during disruption
• how little damage a single setback can cause

What Income and Wealth Metrics Do Exist (Secondary)

The copy does not ignore income — but it treats it as evidence, not the goal.

Acceptable secondary metrics include:

• increasing deal size
• improved terms
• more inbound opportunities
• higher-quality counterparties
• cleaner closes
• fewer “bad deals”

Notice these are quality-of-wealth metrics, not gross income numbers.

There is no promise of:

• “X dollars per month”
• “get rich fast”
• “income explosion”

That absence is intentional.

What the Copy Explicitly Rejects

The copy rejects these as success metrics:

• hustle volume
• constant activity
• transaction count
• validation via short-term wins
• excitement or adrenaline
• loud visibility

It even says:

“They mistake motion for progress.”

That is a direct rejection of income-chasing as a metric.

The Core Metric the Copy Implies (If You Had to Choose One)

If Crown & Capital had one master KPI, it would be:

The percentage of your life’s outcomes that function without your constant involvement.

As that number increases:

• sovereignty increases
• wealth becomes calmer
• power becomes quieter
• legacy becomes real

Final, Precise Answer

Crown & Capital’s copy suggests that income and wealth matter only insofar as they are:

• structured
• resilient
• compounding
• independent of your constant presence

It does not frame success as “how much you make,”
but as how well what you’ve built survives absence, pressure, and time.

[Azriel]

Part of my continued questions to ChatGPT is a re-orientation on the stated purpose of major subs

Concepts create context that IS the result as much as the external metric now.

How does it related to income?

Where the Copy Explicitly Implies Growth

The copy repeatedly references mechanisms that only make sense if income/wealth are expected to increase:

Income Growth Signals

• “systems that generate revenue without your constant presence”
• “turn effort into equity that compounds across time”
• “build systems that generate revenue”
• “premium pipeline”
• “high-value opportunities”
• “larger deals, better terms”
• “assets that generate income”
• “capital-producing actions”

These are income-positive mechanisms.
You don’t build them unless income is expected to rise.

Wealth / Net Worth Growth Signals

• “structures that compound”
• “layered financial systems”
• “treasury”
• “reserves, assets, diversification”
• “equity, ownership, leverage”
• “multigenerational wealth”
• “wealth ladder”
• “capital that endures market cycles”

These phrases explicitly imply balance-sheet growth, not just cash flow.

Net worth, not paycheck.

What the Copy Does Not Do (Intentionally)

The copy avoids:

• numerical promises (“make $X”)
• timelines (“in 90 days”)
• performance guarantees
• hustle framing
• transactional wins

This is not accidental — it’s positioning.

The copy is written to attract:

• builders, not chasers
• long-term operators
• people who think in structures, not spikes

The Key Distinction (This Is the Crux)

The copy does not frame success as:

“How much more money do you make?”

It does frame success as:

“Do your income and wealth now scale, persist, and survive pressure?”

So income/wealth growth is treated as:

• evidence of success
• not the definition of success

How Growth Is Supposed to Happen (According to the Copy)

The implied causal chain is:

1. Internal sovereignty (Crown)
   → better decisions, boundaries, pricing, negotiation
2. External structure (Capital)
   → leverage, equity, systems, protection
3. Positioning + readiness
   → higher-quality opportunities arrive
4. Execution + discipline
   → deals close cleanly
5. Compounding
   → income and net worth increase over time

So yes — growth is absolutely implied, but through architecture, not acceleration.

The Cleanest One-Sentence Answer

The copy suggests Crown & Capital will support increasing income, wealth, and net worth indirectly by transforming how money is structured, protected, and compounded — not by promising raw income gains or fast financial results.

[Azriel]

Short Term Metrics for success

Crown & Capital

Short-Term Intended Goals & Metrics of Success

Short term here means roughly weeks to the first 3–6 months of use.

Crown & Capital is not designed to show success first in income or net worth.
It is designed to show success first in authority, structure, and friction reduction.

The Core Short-Term Goal (in one line)

To stabilize your internal authority and reduce friction, leakage, and dependence in how you make decisions, handle money, and engage with others.

Before growth, it creates order.

Short-Term Goal: Establish Internal Authority (Crown)

What the copy intends to change quickly

• End second-guessing
• End approval-seeking
• End emotional negotiation with yourself
• End reactive decision loops

This is why the copy emphasizes:

• “decisions as decrees”
• “seal pressed into wax”
• “governing yourself first”
• “final authority”

Short-term metrics of success

Behavioral / internal

• Decisions feel final instead of tentative
• Less internal debate after choosing
• Reduced need to explain or justify choices
• Faster “yes / no / not now” clarity

Observable

• You stop asking for reassurance
• You say “no” more cleanly
• Fewer reversals or half-commitments

Success looks like:
Decisions become quieter, faster, and emotionally cheaper.

Short-Term Goal: Reduce Energy & Attention Leaks

Before building capital, the copy wants you to stop bleeding it.

This shows up repeatedly as:

• “energy as imperial currency”
• “sealing leaks”
• “filters at the gate”
• “attention becomes expensive”

Short-term metrics of success

• Fewer low-value meetings
• Cleaner calendar
• Less time spent explaining yourself
• Less tolerance for misalignment
• Fewer reactive conversations

Success looks like:
Your days feel calmer and more intentional, even if nothing “external” has changed yet.

Short-Term Goal: Improve Deal & Interaction Quality (Not Quantity)

The copy is explicit that early wins are quality upgrades, not volume increases.

Examples from the text:

• “better terms”
• “walk away cleanly”
• “filter tire-kickers”
• “qualify fast”
• “present value without apology”

Short-term metrics of success

• Conversations go deeper faster
• Fewer bad-fit opportunities reach you
• You walk away from misaligned deals without stress
• People take you more seriously sooner

Success looks like:
Fewer opportunities — but better ones — and less emotional charge around them.

Short-Term Goal: Begin Structural Thinking (Capital)

In the short term, this is mental and organizational, not financial.

The copy says:

• “think in systems, not transactions”
• “architecture before income”
• “structure before scale”

Short-term metrics of success

• You start categorizing income vs assets
• You notice dependence risks you ignored before
• You feel discomfort with fragile setups
• You begin documenting, organizing, protecting

Examples:

• separating personal vs business money
• clarifying ownership or terms
• identifying single-point failures
• starting reserves or buffers

Success looks like:
You see fragility where you once saw “normal,” and you want to fix it.

Short-Term Goal: Nervous-System Stabilization Under Pressure

This is explicitly mentioned:

• “integration support”
• “not forcing transformation”
• “fortress of calm”

Short-term metrics of success

• Less emotional spike in negotiations
• Slower speech when stakes rise
• Ability to pause instead of react
• Feeling grounded during uncertainty

Success looks like:
Pressure no longer hijacks your behavior.

What Is Not a Short-Term Goal (Important)

The copy does not define early success as:

• Immediate income increase
• Sudden wealth jumps
• Massive deal flow
• External recognition
• Social dominance theatrics

Those are later-stage outcomes, not early metrics.

One-Sentence Summary

Crown & Capital’s short-term success is measured by increased decision finality, reduced energy leakage, calmer authority under pressure, and higher-quality interactions—not by immediate income or net-worth growth.

Why This Matters

If someone expects:

• fast money
• excitement
• constant action

They’ll think it’s “not working.”

If someone tracks:

• clarity
• boundaries
• calm
• structural awareness

They’ll see it working exactly as designed.

[Azriel]

Mid Term

Here is the clean, precise breakdown of Crown & Capital’s mid-term goals and metrics, directly implied by the copy and consistent with how systems like this actually unfold.

Mid-term here means roughly 6–18 months of consistent use and aligned action.

Crown & Capital

Mid-Term Intended Goals & Metrics of Success

If short-term is about stability and authority,
mid-term is about leverage and compounding.

The program expects that once your internal sovereignty is stable, external reality starts reorganizing around it.

Core Mid-Term Goal (One Line)

To convert personal authority into durable leverage—financial, relational, and strategic—so outcomes improve without proportional increases in effort.

Mid-Term Goal: Shift from Effort → Leverage

By mid-term, the copy expects that:

• You are no longer rewarded mainly for effort
• You are rewarded for positioning, ownership, and structure

Metrics of success

• A growing percentage of income comes from:
  • equity
  • ownership
  • recurring or semi-recurring sources
• You spend less time “earning” and more time:
  • structuring
  • allocating
  • deciding

KPI example

% of income not tied to hours worked increases quarter over quarter.

Mid-Term Goal: Noticeable Improvement in Deal Quality & Terms

The copy strongly emphasizes:

• negotiation from calm authority
• walking away cleanly
• better terms through positioning

Metrics of success

• Higher pricing or valuation accepted with less pushback
• Better control, downside protection, or optionality
• Shorter negotiation cycles
• Fewer bad-fit counterparties reaching late stages

KPI example

Average deal terms (price, control, protections) improve compared to prior year.

Mid-Term Goal: Network Re-Architecture

By mid-term, your social world is reorganized intentionally, not accidentally.

Metrics of success

• Clear inner circle with high trust
• Allies who bring:
  • introductions
  • opportunities
  • leverage
• Reduced social noise and fewer energy drains

KPI example

% of meaningful opportunities coming via warm introductions increases.

Mid-Term Goal: Reduced Fragility & Increased Resilience

This is one of the copy’s strongest mid-term themes.

Metrics of success

• One setback no longer threatens the whole system
• You have:
  • reserves
  • contingencies
  • diversified exposure
• Emotional reaction to volatility decreases

KPI example

A single negative event no longer causes cascading failures.

Mid-Term Goal: Authority Is Assumed, Not Tested

By this phase:

• You are no longer constantly “proving” competence
• Authority is increasingly taken for granted

Metrics of success

• Fewer challenges to your decisions
• More early consultation
• People align faster once you state direction

KPI example

Decision-cycle time in groups shortens when you are involved.

Mid-Term Goal: Strategic Time Horizon Expands

The copy expects a shift from:

• reacting to next quarter
  → designing for years and decades

Metrics of success

• Decisions framed in multi-year impact
• Less urgency, more patience
• You choose fewer but higher-leverage moves

KPI example

% of decisions evaluated on 3–10 year impact increases.

What Is Still Not the Metric (Mid-Term)

Even here, success is not defined as:

• “X dollars per month”
• public status
• hustle volume
• constant activity

Money should be improving — but cleanly and structurally, not chaotically.

One-Sentence Summary

Crown & Capital’s mid-term success is measured by rising leverage, improved deal terms, stronger networks, reduced fragility, and outcomes improving faster than effort.

Why This Matters

At mid-term, many people misinterpret the experience:

• It can feel “slower” because noise drops
• But power is consolidating

This is the phase where:

• wealth starts behaving differently
• authority starts compounding
• fragility begins disappearing

[Azriel]

Long term

Crown & Capital

Long-Term Intended Goals & Metrics of Success

If short-term is authority and mid-term is leverage,
long-term is endurance.

Core Long-Term Goal (One Line)

To establish a self-reinforcing system of personal sovereignty and external structures that continues to produce stability, wealth, and influence with minimal dependence on your presence.

This is the “empire that endures.”

Long-Term Goal: Presence-Independent Wealth & Authority

The copy returns to this theme constantly:

• “systems that persist when your attention is elsewhere”
• “not dependent on continuous effort”
• “what remains standing when you’re gone”

Metrics of success

• Income continues during extended absence
• Deals continue closing without you driving them
• Authority remains intact when you are not present
• Your reputation carries weight independently

Master KPI

% of life outcomes that function without you actively involved

Long-Term Goal: Structural Resilience Across Shocks

By long term, the system should survive:

• market cycles
• personal setbacks
• relationship changes
• institutional disruption

Metrics of success

• Drawdowns are limited and recoverable
• No single failure cascades into collapse
• Multiple independent income and opportunity channels
• Emotional stability during volatility

Master KPI

Maximum damage from any single adverse event

Lower is better.

Long-Term Goal: Enduring Capital (Balance-Sheet Power)

The copy’s emphasis is not cash flow — it is capital.

Metrics of success

• Net worth grows via ownership, equity, and assets
• Capital is diversified and layered
• Wealth compounds rather than resets
• Liquidity and optionality increase over time

Master KPI

Net worth growth rate adjusted for volatility and effort

Long-Term Goal: Institutional & Network Continuity

By this stage, influence lives in:

• institutions
• alliances
• frameworks
• successors

Metrics of success

• You are consulted as a strategic reference point
• Trusted allies act on your behalf
• Introductions happen without asking
• Access persists across roles and transitions

Master KPI

Influence continuity across role or life changes

Long-Term Goal: Legacy & Stewardship

The copy explicitly names this:

• “multigenerational”
• “House of the Emperor”
• “what remains standing when you’re gone”

Metrics of success

• Systems outlive your direct involvement
• Dependents and successors are protected
• Reputation compounds rather than degrades
• Values transmit through structure, not speeches

Master KPI

Longevity of structures beyond your personal participation

Long-Term Goal: Quiet Power (Low Noise, High Effect)

This is subtle but critical.

Metrics of success

• Less explanation required to move outcomes
• Less visibility required to maintain influence
• Fewer conflicts, less drama, more inevitability
• Power feels calm, not performative

Master KPI

Effectiveness per unit of visibility

What Long-Term Success Is Not

Even at this stage, success is not:

• public recognition
• fame
• hustle volume
• constant expansion
• domination for its own sake

Those are distractions from endurance.

One-Sentence Long-Term Summary

Crown & Capital’s long-term success is measured by how well your authority, wealth, and influence persist through absence, pressure, and time.

Why This Is the Final Tier

This is the phase where:

• money behaves like capital
• power behaves like gravity
• effort behaves like optional input
• life feels more designed than fought

This is empire logic, not growth hacking.

[Hoppa]

@Azriel

The copy is written to attract:

• builders, not chasers
• long-term operators
• people who think in structures, not spikes

Absolutely. I’m a little over decade into my multi decade master plan.

The copy speaks directly to me.

I can’t remember anything else quite being so accurate for my needs.

[SaintSovereign]

The way you’re performing this analysis is very insightful…
Gives me an idea…
Sorry, bro – I’m about to post about this in the Into the Wonder thread.

[Azriel]

Well you said it’s all in the copy!

So I was trying to discern what the sub was really about.

And it’s use cases solo vs. otherwise

Is this accurate from your view under the hood?

[SaintSovereign]

@Azriel

Is this accurate from your view under the hood?

I would say that it is quite accurate. From the Subliminal Club perspective, however, we would urge you to consider steady income growth as a KPI as well, though. While it’s not explicitly stated in the copy (since it was running long anyway), this is still an Emperor title and income growth overtime is ALWAYS in Emperor titles.

[Philemon]

@Hoppa

Absolutely. I’m a little over decade into my multi decade master plan.

The copy speaks directly to me.

start of 2033 is the start of phase 2 of my plan.

Phase one started in 2021 haha.

[Azriel]

Just an update.

My custom with C&C/ASBR is SIGNIFICANTLY better for sales. ASBR creates that social grace and flow, that rounds out the more dominant, authorative nature of C&C and/or I’m just generally adjusting to C&C.

Closed two sales today so far. Feeling much better on navigating verbals on call and creating rapport/authority. I am also starting to see C&C keeping things more organic and on point, and coming from a space of less reactivity

What I am really looking for now is big revenue per sale, high-quality leads. (Revenue per client is more a function of the quality of lead and their relationship to money)I am seeing this around me a lot this week, but not experienced it personally yet.

ROW helps this tremendously, EOG in the past and HOM do as well, but so far ROW has lead to the biggest change in this. Hopping C&C will top it.

[Azriel]

I am currently torn between an extreme sense of opulence and purchasing items, experiences, things for the joy of it and the expression of it, and seeing every dollar saved as a potential re-investment opportunity.

I already save and invest, and am guilt-free otherwise with my spending. But now starting to become aware and seeing what could be done. I’m seeing where my budget is large with what I spend, and where it is in service of enjoying my life while still saving and investing a lot, but I find myself more conscious of these choices now. This is C&C but also adaptive scripting on Synergy: The Golden One- specifically Sultan, I imagine.

I could probably save an extra 2-5K a month if I were smarter and more structured in my budget

My friend’s dad passed away, having saved many amazing bottles of wine, always saving them for some occasion that never came. They told me, much more eloquently, what’s the point if you don’t experience and enjoy.

I’ve also used -the energy of -I can afford that- and making big purchases for fun and investments in myself as a way of drawing in more abundance and energy- and I see the value of that too.

It will all resolve I’m sure.

[Azriel]

C&C

The negotiation element of it, (different than sales-this is for when I am negotiating on my behalf) I see it coming up in certain situations with vendors, So far I find it has no bite(influence), it’s all matter-of-fact, and the seriousness has people reflect an equal sense of seriousness and non-messing-around-ness. This works well with certain Dominant types (if you follow disc) or people with similar reflective, Emperor-like qualities, but more often than not, lands like people who are not interested in making things work and who turn up the heat on their own terms or walk away without care. Perhaps a further filtering quality of the sub.

The main value I am getting in a sales capacity WITH ASBR and Essence: Perfect unyielding only, is a greater sense of center, calm, authenticity, and professionalism. Sovereignty without GLM mediation is anger-based, but when it’s tempered with GLM/Essence: and ASBR, it works well. It doesn’t stack well with True Sell the same way; it overpowers True Sell’s influence, but ASBR is molding it decently so far. A couple more small sales today, and I felt very in control for most calls. Towards the end of the day, I did feel impulses to ramble, and some conflict with verbal fluidity vs. speaking again. Also, not always answering/addressing things as powerfully as I could. I attribute this more to recon.

C&C does have the ability to present moment clarity and precision in sales that is brilliant. This is the present thing that creates an alignment in outcome scripting, I imagine, but it’s only useful with stack softeners, which help patience, warmth, and verbiage. Then the increased authority and skill set can become an asset.

Now that I’m grasping the sub- certain sales feel absolutely ridiculous to meaningfully speak to the person, so I need a reason to disqualify people or temper myself.

In terms of lead flow, I am seeing decent leads, but they tend to be very money-savvy and not interested in making decisions quickly. They are big on negotiating down to lower price points. They’re not the ideal archetype for my sale - but they’re solid. Its funny to see them reflecting C&C qualities to a degree as well hahhhahaa- These reflections sometimes happen fast. Too early to say this is specifically C&C, but funny to note.

On ROW, I see a ton of leads who see the value of what money gets and don’t worry about the money. They’ll purchase more, with less need to converse or persuade.

I really see this sub as amazing in a really high-level finance role, capital raising, or capital markets. This would be even better than Emperor for a corporate job, imo, for elements of entrepreneurship or career development when people start building a steady flow of capital.

One thing I am loving is

The execution on this is strong; do things that matter now vs. later. What things are there to do that matter that I can start doing that have more leverage? What actions can I take now that I have not wanted to take out of risk aversion or resistance, but could now increase capital? These are all questions I am asking myself and feeling strongly motivated toward

[Azriel]

Got this cool answer about stacking WDB

Is Spartan: The Beast Unleashed effected by the relaxation in certain subs Dragon Reborn: Regeneration or Wanted Dream Boy

My arousal and peak performance levels seem down on Beast when in combo. They still work well together but not nearly at the same speed as Spartan: The Beast Unleashed solo or with Hero: Earth or even Khan. Recon and dilution could be part of it but wonder if there are any antithetical effects to the two?
SubliminalClub Support

4 days ago

There are two potential explanations for what you’re experiencing:

1. Subsiding Unconscious Validation Drives

Dragon Reborn: Regeneration and WANTED: Dream Boy both focus on authenticity and relaxation. What you may have been experiencing as “arousal” or “peak performance” could have been unconscious validation-seeking drives – the need to prove something or perform for external approval. As these titles help you become more authentic and relaxed, those false drivers start to subside. What feels like reduced arousal might actually be a shift away from performance anxiety toward genuine, grounded energy.

2. Potential Energy State Conflict

That said, there is a potential clash between Dragon Reborn: Regeneration and Spartan: The Beast Unleashed. Regeneration is designed for deep relaxation, rest, and the “inner spa” – creating parasympathetic nervous system dominance. Beast Unleashed is about peak performance, primal explosive energy, and high-intensity states. These are opposite ends of the nervous system spectrum, so running them together could create competing directives.

Why Beast Works Better With Hero: Earth

Hero: Earth likely works better because it’s about embodiment and mastery of the body – a compatible focus with Beast’s physical performance goals. Both are grounded in the physical realm without the deep relaxation/healing focus that Regeneration brings.

Recommendations:

If peak performance is your priority, consider running Beast solo or with titles focused on embodiment and action (like Hero: Earth or Khan). Save Dragon Reborn: Regeneration for dedicated healing cycles.

Alternatively, the reduced arousal you’re experiencing might be a positive sign – false validation drives dropping away as you become more authentic. Monitor whether your actual performance results are declining, or just the subjective feeling of arousal.

Let me know if you’d like more guidance on stack optimization.

Best regards,

Subliminal Club Support Team
Azriel

4 days ago

What about in combination with Wanted Dream Boy or Wanted- will Beast synergize better with that or is the relaxation scripting in those respectvely or will that create conflict as well.

I have run the two successfully at times but wanted to double check. Thank you
SubliminalClub Support

3 hours ago

Hi there,

Great follow-up question! Let me clarify the key distinction here.

WANTED: Dream Boy + Beast Unleashed

Good news: These two WILL synergize well together.

The “relaxation” in WANTED: Dream Boy comes from authenticity scripting – not direct parasympathetic/rest activation. This creates a “dream-like” quality to your presence, but it doesn’t interfere with physical performance or exercise intensity.

Dream Boy helps you drop false validation-seeking and performance anxiety, which actually allows your natural power to flow more freely. The calm, grounded presence it creates is about being authentic, not about deep nervous system rest.

So you can absolutely run WANTED: Dream Boy with Beast Unleashed without the dilution issue.

Dragon Reborn: Regeneration + Beast Unleashed

This combination is where the conflict occurs.

Dragon Reborn: Regeneration contains direct relaxation scripting:

• The “inner spa” method
• Parasympathetic nervous system activation
• Deep rest and restoration focus
• Explicitly designed to pull you OUT of intensity and INTO healing rest

This is the title that creates the energetic clash with Beast’s explosive, primal, high-performance energy.

Bottom Line:

Will create dilution/conflict with Beast:

• Dragon Reborn: Regeneration (direct rest/relaxation scripting)

Will synergize well with Beast:

• WANTED: Dream Boy (authenticity-based, doesn’t affect physical performance)
• Hero: Earth (embodied physical power)
• Khan (intense, dominant energy)
• WANTED Black (raw sexual intensity)

Your Instinct Was Correct:

You mentioned you’ve “run the two successfully at times” – that’s because Dream Boy and Beast actually work well together! The authenticity and grounded presence from Dream Boy complements Beast’s physical intensity.

The issue is specifically with Dragon Reborn: Regeneration due to its direct relaxation/rest scripting.

Does this clarify the distinction? You can confidently stack WANTED: Dream Boy with Beast Unleashed!

Best regards,

Subliminal Club Support

[Azriel]

This is AI talking to itself on switching modes.

i.e. how I feel when changing stacks or running something new

Not quite like that but existential analysis aside, it is really interesting to see what stays immutable and what so cleary changes with subs. Not just my own persistent ‘inauthentic’ conditioning/samskaras/karma but also the unique expression of me that works with ZP.

I do sometimes question my own efficacy without them, are they like cheat code, do they last/persist? With such rapid differences when exposed to scripting. In the end it doesn’t matter since life is life, and results are results. Obviously subs gives leverage and effect to make meaningful change and produce results, I don’t have imposter syndrome, but some times I have the insecurity that whatever I build will only last as long as the nearest input.

Maintaining worth through effort, edge is also always been an asset and liability.

I am in a playful space of musings, and this is all very light and humorous in my exploration.

Reports wised closed at a $50K sales week. Very very solid. C&C has not moved the bar meaningful from my baseline sales wise. But I am enjoying many elements of the sub now that it is paired with ASBR.

I don’t know if I will revert back to my old stack or continue with this one. C &C is definitely something I want to be running long term, but I will need to see I can perform at peak levels sales wise before locking it in.

I also have aggravated a minor injury, so perhaps paragon soon when it drops.

[Hoppa]

@Azriel

I do sometimes question my own efficacy without them, are they like cheat code, do they last/persist? With such rapid differences when exposed to scripting. In the end it doesn’t matter since life is life, and results are results. Obviously subs gives leverage and effect to make meaningful change and produce results, I don’t have imposter syndrome, but some times I have the insecurity that whatever I build will only last as long as the nearest input.

Year 2025 was for me an off year, subs wise. Maybe a total of 10 loops, if I remember correctly. 2024 I was more into RoM and RoS. Learned a lot about the chaos that’s constantly going on inside my head.

I do notice some deviation from my purely wealth related sub usage. But… The parts I integrated from Emperor are still there.

Now I’m just wondering how I differ from you guys who notice the results immediately. To me, they seem to be permanent. Because that’s who I am now.

[Azriel]

The overall character effects and results seem very stable and long term.
And everything I’ve created in my life using them as a tool is still here and growing/compounding.

The short term immediate state/mood/ aura effects definitely shift from sub to sub, and become less acute over time when on different subs/no longer running those, but that is not the point of subs just a fun part for some people.

I can see those also become more activatable / situationally over time

This more more a fun musing than a deep inquiry into the long term efficacy of subs.
I know they are a profound tool that can create enduring change.

Nothing is permanent

[Wonders]

@Azriel

I do sometimes question my own efficacy without them, are they like cheat code, do they last/persist? With such rapid differences when exposed to scripting. In the end it doesn’t matter since life is life, and results are results. Obviously subs gives leverage and effect to make meaningful change and produce results, I don’t have imposter syndrome, but some times I have the insecurity that whatever I build will only last as long as the nearest input.

That kind of remind me of Invictus tips (which you may have already read), especially regarding self-induced dependance on subs.

It’s important to recall that these subs are tools, they are amazing tools but they are tools, they don’t change you, only you can change you.

Subs “just” give your subconscious self all the tools, techniques and knowledge, needed to reach what goals you want to reach, it’s your subconscious self that use this tools to build pathways for money to flow in, to seduce people with your charisma, to improve your memory recall and pattern-finding skills, and other amazing stuff.

You are the one who did all this! You are the one who became the top salesman in your company! You are the one who built your life to be as good as it is now.

It is easier to dig a hole with a backhoe than with a shovel, but in both case they would be useless without the wisdom of the operator and whatever the operator directs (either their body or the motor) to perform the maneuvers and dig.

So regardless of what you use to supplement your learning of the capabilities that sleep within yourself, they become yours as long as you appropriate them.
Those capabilities are always within you, subs just push potentials to the surface so you may either appreciate and use, or accept and discard/let go.

We are beings of infinite potential, what we want to become we will become, because we can. Whatever you learn, see, experience, consume (including subs), give us new capabilities and new potentials. Either we can seize these potentials or we can let them go.

Even if we let potentials sleep, it’s not the end of the world, potential is always there until we find how to transform it so it become usable. Though we may only transform something we feel and see.

If I eat at Macdonald, I get the possibility of becoming fatter, or of becoming sick, or of killing some of my gut biome and thus reducing my defenses and mood longer term. If I workout, I get the possibility of becoming stronger, building muscle tissue,or of being healthier, of dynamising and reinforcing our immune system through effort, of reinforcing the endocrinal system, of improving mood.

And my guess for the fitness subs would be that they give tools to your subconscious, that control your body, to become conscious of all of these.
Helping your subconscious become more aware of all that underline the act of working out, what we may expect to happen, and what bodily mechanism may be used to reinforce these.

And so, as a result, our subconscious get more motivated toward doing that, if that’s something you want as a goal.
So really, subs are imo better seen as learning tools and aids, than something that change you, because subs can’t change us, only us can change ourselves.

[Azriel]

Current custom

• A Stark Black Reality Core
• Emperor: Crown & Capital
• New Wealth Experience Core
• Cosmic Navigator
• Ebon Maneuver
• Synergy: Carpe Vitam
• Synergy: Divine Dominion
• Synergy: The Golden One
• Essence: The Unyielding Perfect
• Essence: Total War

Edit: Not sure if NWE is overkill with Crown & Capital.

[Hoppa]

@Azriel

Nothing is permanent

It seems that most people think that everything is permanent. Their skills, thoughts, life situation. Learned helplessness.

The me… either think they can’t change themselves, or are afraid to do it.

Doesn’t really matter why. The only way to grow is to discard the old self. Just decide to build yourself into whatever you want to be.

And that changes, over time.