Thank you for this!
I came to similar conclusions after running C&C. Though, I’m going to rather go with Genesis Mogul → EOG → C&C, I can’t explain why but it feels more right haha. Despite adaptive scripting, it feels like progression from easier titles to C&C is more efficient for now. Though, I think with development of Adaptive Scripting, eventually it won’t be necessary at all
Weeks, Sales Revenue, rounded down, sub stack
January 1-3- $48K ASBR/HOM, True Sell/RICH, GLM/ROW
January 4-10 - $83K ASBR/HOM, True Sell/RICH, GLM/ROW
January 11- 17 $34K ASBR/HOM, True Sell/RICH, GLM/ROW
January 18-24 $58K ASBR/Crown and Capital, True Sell/RICH, GLM/ROW
January 25- 31st $54K ASBR/Crown and Capital, True Sell/RICH
February 1st-3rd $5k ASBR/Crown and Capital, True Sell/RICH, GLM/ROW
$165,000 vs. $117,000 - (with a couple extra days in og stacks favor, can reassess Friday) originally stack is metrically performing higher so far, and this is the first month I didn’t crush out the gate with $50K + in 3 days.
Experientially, I am working 3-5x as hard on calls for the same sales, lead quality is way down, fewer fills, and more challenging. This could be the highlight of the premium pipeline, but my intuition feels more like a negative haze on most calls. And I am coming across to people in a very specific way in people’s feedback. What I perceived as recon before is fading signficantly but I think my strong weeks on C&C were also from bloom.
Metrically C&C is not improving in the domain of sales so far. It is helping with other actions and effects, which I will journal about soon. Giving this week to C&C to pull through, or going back to the original stack for now, before re-introducing it in a different way or with a different strategy.
Continuing to just process my experience here.
Every time I talk to people, they clam up or bring an equal measure of ‘business bluntness.’
It’s almost too high status -this was mitigated initially in a custom but now C&C is shinging through with ASBR.
That sweet middle ground of business in a loving fun way where we were being of value to each other is gone. My ability to deal really effectively with challenging people is gone, probably the pipeline filter, I don’t/won’t /can’t deal with challenging people looking to be in a control dynamic.
The pipeline filter acts like a strong repellent to many, and then when things click, they really click but that is SOO rare the last few weeks.
Honestly, I think part of this is that C&C also highlights where there is so much more for me than this job, I am struggling with the strong sense of strength and movement in other things, but losing my fluidity and acceptance in this role.
Towards end of day I’ve hit strong recon mode.
Go with your intuition for sure.
Have you tried C&C yet though?
first phrase of my post haha
I came to similar conclusions after running C&C
lol Yea, read it too fast. Can you say more specifically about your experience that had you decide that, or point me to where you already said that .
Sure, I was running it since release. Basically, it feels like I’m not even scratching the surface on C&C and some of the changes are not appropriate at my level. The sub is for a very long time frame and I believe that it’s best to run it when you are already in a good and stable financial place, focusing not on active income (through work, freelancing, whatever) but rather the end stages of business (in which you are creating a system so that the business can run and grow without your presence and daily actions) OR moving away from active income and focusing on investing or similar means of creating a structure of passive income
At least that’s my definition of “legacy”, related to the Capital part. A structure that will outlive you and keep growing even without your presence and daily actions.
I’m currently at a level in which I’ll benefit much more from increasing my active income, without really giving my full attention to investments and large capital structure. Like, I’m currently better off investing in my knowledge, health and living conditions to make myself more efficient, happy, productive and capable. And C&C makes me more focused on capital structures first.
The thing is, if I directly do that, I’ll be making overall slower progress because of less efficiency
Adaptive scripting didn’t really help me with that, instead it only guided my actions towards creating capital structure, so to speak. For example, I put part of my income into investments (crypto, knowledge, health - really broad category, not just financial gain in mind) and with C&C I started putting all of it into DeFi and stocks, rather than acquiring new courses, buying necessary supplements or gym equipment. While it isn’t right or wrong overall, it is wrong FOR ME
And this guiding was in everything, which diverted my attention from the basics: improve my skillset, network with people, improve my living condition
Also, the Crown part also guides me to become a bit too serious, and has a feel that “I don’t have X cashflow, I have to fix it asap, so I’m going full serious mode”.
Also, I totally understand that it might be recon, calibration and stuff like that but it really seems much more beneficial for me to go through Mogul and EOG, closing the basics first before going back to C&C. I accept that I might be missing out by not just continuing to run C&C and adapting slowly, but so far, Mogul seems like a much better fit. I also did EOG1 and 2 but decided to go through the progression I outlined in previous post, thinking it’s going to be more beneficial
Well, that was a long text, hope it makes sense haha
EDIT: Maybe even ideal transition would be Genesis Mogul + RICH/NRICH → EOG + Emperor → C&C
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Does this include the money you’re receiving by your ex calling your “old leads” as well?
Just wondering since that “situation” seemed to be pretty much exactly what CC was about, and maybe even how you should develop the situation to be?
Otherwise I like the concrete numbers to measure results.
I think that was an element of discovering a new way to structure the pipeline. In the end, though, due to opportunity and lead ‘ownership’ rules at the company I’m at, it ended up being only $5K of revenue on my end one week.
Thank you for the full description here. It makes total sense, and it’s good to hear your experience reflected.
I am experiencing something similar.
Saint, I wanted to take this here, not to derail that thread.
I really don’t mean to be nitpicky or be contrarian, and maybe I’m just misunderstanding the obvious, but I want to clarify.
Metrically, there is a gain and loss sure, and since game theory suggests one person’s gain is directly proportional to another’s loss, this is accurate, but my understanding in open ended systems like the world or the economy its only in the case of theft and loss, where a transfer, not an exchange, occurs that is would consistute as a gain or loss. If someone gives me $20 for a service that is not a net loss for them, even though their down $20
zero-sum games accurately model situations with a fixed pool of money, where resources are transferred rather than created.
That could be very useful when managing money and/or structuring money, which is part of C&C’s purpose. But it does not account for value creation/ exchange, which are practical, measurable, tangible, and repeatable. Does C&C address these at all?
A wealth-creation mindset that treats money as a zero-sum game will be anything but practical; it will be limiting and even negatively impactful.
So I imagine you’re talking about a zero-sum game in fixed-system instances, like set amounts of capital that C&C addresses, not the mindset behind it?
The value creation and exchange elements of money are also incredibly practical
A very simple example for this is buying a pair or jeans.
If I spend 20$ on a new pair, these jeans have a higher value for me than the 20$ bill in my pocket. If the jeans would be worth 20$ to me, I wouldn’t sit in my car, drive to the store and do a simple exchange where I don’t make a gain.
Instead I would stay at home, not wasting the time to get the jeans.
But if I need a new pair of Jeans they have a higher value to me than the 20$ I need to spend.
Watching a movie in a theater for 30$?
I do this because I value the fun, the relaxation higher than the money.
In each exchange I need to make a gain or I wouldn’t do it.
That’s the basic of exchange.