i thought really you were talking about football
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As we have seen this week with Mbappe and Salah. Even the best can miss an penalty 
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Sheās obsessed with you and made a fantasy romance in her head and she does have feelings for you. Whatās actually happening is that she doesnāt feel like she deserves love so thatās why her mind is holding her back with fear.
What I can tell is that she just wants the validation of having you. in your case I would just start talking to other girls on the gym and guys so she can see you have social proof and open up easily next time when you talk to her. And also donāt take her too seriously, just talk to other girls and keep her as a cherry on top. Do not get attached she just wants sex
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This strikes me as way too much overthinking.
My best advice is to approach her, let her know you find her attractive and youād like to get to know her, and ask her for her number/whatever.
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Thanks for your reply @jaguar. You said things in a constructive way, which helped me with my introspection.
I like to put the responsibility on me and with that comes the power to change everything. Under that perspective Iām projecting something negative onto her.
Maybe I think that in some ways she doesnāt deserve my love. Probably because I think Iām too good for her in terms of skills, fighting in life (resilience and mental strength) and life achievements. And in some other ways I think I donāt deserve a beautiful girl like her, even though she is physically a match, because of some of my self esteem issues.
This is where my current stack is helping (PS + HS).
Now I donāt think Iām worse or better than anyone else, I put myself at the same level of others in an authentic way, and close to them even if that means getting out of my comfort zone and risking showing my vulnerabilities and being hurt. So far no one has hurt me, and even when people make judgements, you know what? It was because I sent some negative subconscious signal to them, so when that happens I quickly change my inner state to a positive one and the other person automatically changes his/her state too.
No more envies from other people, because when that happens I put the blame on my ego, then I smile and people smile back. No more need to fight anyone. Life is being nice and peaceful!
Anyway I just started a washout, as I have eye wrinkles, Iām too tired, Iām ruminating a lot and I canāt focus, as a sign that I need a washout. Women in general, including the beautiful ones, are all smiling and being nice to me for several days, so I think Iāve already shifted the reality.
There is another nice woman I met, who wants to help me and invited me to take me to a place with some of her friends. I donāt consider it a date, but we have been getting along pretty well, and itās a start. We have many things in common, including the things we have been through in life, so maybe she is the twin flame manifestation from HS, although Iām not sure because I met her when I was washing out from Asc without ever having used HS (I used LB a long time ago for only 1.5 cycles and I quit due to huge recon). Yesterday, when I was preparing to leave, there was a curious manifestation: her parents showed up, she didnāt tell me who they were, but the father made a comment which revealed they were the parentsā¦ She was caught!
We were talking yesterday for about 2 hours, and it went very well with lots of humor and showing of vulnerability from both sides. Iām just not sure yet if the reality bubble is working or how does it feel, because I didnāt feel anything about the bubble.
I already talk to some people at the gym, but mainly staff and personal trainers. Now, I started approaching other gym members (men and women). Iām keeping my possibilities open and I try to talk to and meet as many women as I can.
Itās also important to me to approach her again with this new version of myself, so that I can prove to my self that I overcame all my negative beliefs which were making her afraid of me.
Itās important to not get attached, thanks for the advice, but I donāt agree she just wants sex. A woman who waits for me at the gym exit crying also wants love.
Take care.
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You too bro, I hope things work out for you
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Initially they were mind games from both of us and I didnāt like her. But then, after fighting each other, we started having feelings for each otherā¦ It looks like the story of John Wingliss and Jessica Dark (Zero Point Universe Supplemental Information: Character Bios and More or EP 4: Survival Instinct: John Wingliss ā Subliminal Club Beyond).
Edit: Iām just wondering if she is Jessica Dark, who is the new woman that I met?
It will have to work out sooner or later. Itās inevitable!
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I met another girl twice this weekend. These were not dates, because she brought me to one of her groups (where the parents were included).
I did everything right, everyone liked me and considered me a high status man.
I got IOIās from all women there.
She offered me gift.
Strangely she was not interested in me and I was rejected.
After that I started feeling so bad and anxious, that Iāve been yesterday and today without being able to do anything (just lying in bed and couch). A few hours ago I was able to come to the forum, but Iām still feeling anxious. Actually today, for twice while on bed or on the couch, my heart started pumping strong and fast and I feared for my life.
Since I started on Sub Club in April 2024, this is going to be the fourth girl I have feeling towards, who has rejected me, and the fourth time Iām moving on, and to be honest this starts to be too much suffering, and I donāt know if I can afford keep being rejected and hurt like this.
My conclusion from experience is that PS is a sub which works for IOIās and flirting with women in a fun way. Then I have anxiety and obsession issues when Iām rejected by girls I have feelings towards. I also conclude that HS doesnāt help me with any of those issues, it only makes things worse, and I completely lose my power.
Besides that Iām having trouble with my appetite (I almost canāt eat), Iām loosing weight and starting to look too skinny. This is a sign of depression.
PS helps me getting my confidence and energy back, so Iāll go back to it after a few days.
EF is a possibility to build muscular mass, as having a nice body increases my self esteem a lot and doesnāt depend on anyone else for me to see results.
@NinjaGazin seems to have here the formula to have sex, but other possibilities are welcome:
For me itās the opposite: with PS, almost all women give me IOIās. The conversations also go well. The problem is that when I start entering their space they run away.
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Also when I was using Asc together with PS, lots of people started getting aggressive towards me in a disrespectful way, and I felt lots of negativity inside me, so unfortunately I had to drop Asc.
Probably this feeling of getting rejected is a healing manifestation from PS. When you interact with women you gonna get rejected a lot and if you canāt handle it at all it means you need healing. Another good solution is to make a custom with ps and include pride unbroken and attachment destroyer to not be affected by this
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Have you considered triphala powder for the depression and metabolic stuff? Itās an Ayurvedic herbal supplement sold as a common household item in many Indian supply stores (Iām actually going to pick some up tomorrow), its basic function is to balances the three doshas in the body. Chyawanprash is also a tridoshic rasayana like this; balancing using herbs can help the mental state as well. Iām picking these up along with Safi (a blood purifier) and maybe even some shilajit tomorrow. Thatās one great thing Indian supply stores are good for if you know what youāre looking for is physical and mental health related products.
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