8 Months of EoG (and others) - SHADOW WORK 2022!

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#32

Why subs made things worse

I saw someone recently mentioning that ever since he ran subs everything went to shit. Exaggerated, but I had a similar thought.

Like, when I started my self improvement years ago with the Red Pill, etc. I slowly became better with women, my confidence, my life, etc.

Ever since I started subs, specifically healing and from Khan, things got worse at first. And I was like, “why the hell is that?”
I felt better, but externally something was off.

Until ever since my recent Primal ZP run I realised what’s going on.

Before the subs, that confidence and “knowledge” of women was based on insecurities.
The FOUNDATION wasn’t there. I still was anxious every now and then in interactions. Consciously I forced myself to apply the knowledge, subconsciously I was still weak.
Same with money, myself, other people, etc.

Only NOW, since I am on Primal and I don’t feel any anxiety in a fight with my wife, or openly voicing my need with people, have I realised that NOW, TRUE confidence is being built. I clearly see the difference. Because now the subconscious and conscious mind are in tandem. They’re not fighting each other. They belief the same things.

So, yes, it got “worse” at first, but that is because the foundation was built on sand. Now it is built on concrete. It had to be broken down (hello Khan) to build all of it on proper soil.

Well, healing is tough :wink:

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#33

How long have you been on EoG stage 1 now?

#34

Trying to remember if you’ve run Dragon Reborn yet. And I’m pretty sure I’ve already asked you that question. Sorry.

#35

2 loops.

I haven’t, yet. At some point definitely want to though.

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#36

My goal is to do at least three 21-day cycles of EoG1. I believe. I have a lot of stuff to clear.
Have you seen any good changes yet after two cycles?

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#37

For me, cycles are a 21 day cycle.
I only did 2 LOOPS so far :wink:

But, from this I noticed:

  • Productivity is way up. It’s also focused productivity. I always had the issue of jumping around. Now I get shit done.
  • In my mind, I am already rich. Time just needs to catch up. Like, it’s not just a want, it’s CLEAR in my mind that at some point I will make it. It’s not a question.
  • I am emotionless when I make money. This is vital. When a new sale comes in, there is no “hoorah” kind of feeling. It’s normal, natural. This is important, because you already need to FEEL and operate as if you were a rich person. When Saint makes a sale, I doubt he is jumping around, dancing. It’s normal. So I already feel as if this is daily normalcy.
  • Regardless of reality not being close to my mindset, it doesn’t clash. I see what’s what and I work on things, well knowing it’ll all be fine.
  • I feel free.
  • I also feel more creative when I do things.
  • I see ZERO restrictions for what I want to do and how I go about it. I don’t think about potential failures. I just do it.
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Main Disc. Thread - The Ecstasy of Gold ZP
#38

Good to hear your report on this sub. Curious if you would still run R.I.C.H. if you went back / how it compares with what you’re doing now. I also have the same question of Mogul if you used it.

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#39

I will add RICH at some point along this journey for sure.

I mean, EoG works on the beliefs etc, but manifesting money is never a mistake, is it?
RICH stacks well with any wealth sub.

Mogul I did not run, it’s a baseline business-building sub IMO, and I already have that. What I need is the beliefs, etc.
Mogul is good if you have nothing and you want the financial foundation set up as a single stager!

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#40

Day 10, processing

Let’s have a quick review on Primal which I will run again tomorrow.

  • Complete lack of social shaking or ANY social anxiety. I never talked this freely to people.
  • I became quieter. I am more inwardly pointed. Pondering. Not blurting out any thought (which is a good thing).
  • ABSOLUTELY ZERO INTEREST IN PORN. Wasn’t expecting this, but that cures any porn addiction right away imo. You’re just TOO GOOD for that shit.
  • On the topic of too good. I have insane self-belief and confidence. I am dominant by nature and I actually noticed that in my wife, she became a bit intimidated, which was followed by testing that frame. Which I passed ofc.
  • I don’t feel above everyone else. I feel I am good, as most people are in their own sense. I just like myself a whole lot. Including my body.
  • Zero external validaton. When someone congratulates me I don’t even recognise this really, because I KNOW it’S good what I am selling and doing. So they’re just confirming what I know.
  • This is also super helpful when it comes to women. Because I don’t expect anything of them. Well, I have standards, which you could also call expectations. But there is no hard feeling if it doesn’t happen. I just know I’ll find someone else. And life will be good.

Last part might also be from Ascension Chamber which made me REALLY calm and positive towards the future. Ha.

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Main Disc. Thread - Primal Seduction ZP
#41

That’s an interesting insight. Thank you for sharing.

#42

Day 13, processing (1 day after Primal)

So Primal is definitely a sub I am falling in love with.

I have never been so calm. So focused, so relaxed, and clear in myself before.
This absolute self-confidence radiates outward REAL hard. People are very attracted, but I just don’t care. I am focused on my stuff and whatever other people think of me just re-affirms what I know.

There are many small details that I am missing to write down because it’s just normal.

GREAT beginner sub for any man to find back to your true self.

I am also way less on this forum because I am focused on building my legacy and getting shit done.

It definitely heals a lot of shit from society about being a man etc.

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Main Disc. Thread - Primal Seduction ZP
#43

Day 15, EoG ST1

So EoG FEELS very light, weirdly enough. I don’t notice many immediate effects, which is probably because it’s fully internal.
However, I do notice a stronger and stronger believe that everything will just work out.

I also manifested a VERY fitting book out of nowhere that helps me build my business in the direction I need. It is literally telling my (maybe also my subconscious) to focus on the assets I already have (books, blog) and maximise them first, before diving into new things (I.e. my Youtube channel).

So I am doing this now, writing more posts, writing on the next book, improving my old ones, etc.
Also, random ideas on how to improve sales on some of these just pop in at a moments notice. I am actually writing down so many todos on how to maximise my existing products, I don’t have the time to do it rn haha

The good thing also is, it’s not “jumping around” on stuff. I am not trying a new email method, or funnel method every day now. I stick with what I have and max that first, before trying anything new. Which is also what I new consciously for quite a while, but, you know, subconscious self-sabotage.

So in other words, what Stage 1 is doing rn is CLEANING the mess. Straightening my whole business, putting emphasis on things that already work, maximising sales there, removing barriers (this is weirdly noticeable in my mind), and focusing on debt-pay-off etc.

I also have the most profound and detailed sheets of my finances I ever had.
I am automating a lot with Zapier. As much as I can (taxes, mostly).

So, there is A LOT happening there even though none of it feels like it came from the sub. It’s weird, but I KNOW it is from EoG.

Plus, creativity sometimes also fires in interesting ways. I sit down to write, 5 minutes later, 4,000 words.
Out of nowhere. It TRULY is, the ECSTACY of FREEDOM.

PLUS plus, CLEAR goals of what I want to achieve in my life. Not being restricted by other people, even my family. I know my wife, for example, doesn’t really want to leave this country, but I ALWAYS wanted to leave Germany at some point and move to a tropical island, or a warmer place.
This goal is now SET in my mind, regardless of my wife and WHEN it’ll happen. It is a goal I WILL achieve.

I also now almost HATE to sit on Netflix in the evening with my wife. It feels like a waste of time. I rather read an interesting book or work on my business. Talk about productivity.

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Main Disc. Thread - The Ecstasy of Gold ZP
#44

What book.?

#45

Serve No Master by Jonathan Green. I also was invited to his podcast haha!

Manifestations everywhere!

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#46

Interesting. Thank you for sharing.

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#47

Day 19, Power Can Corrupt the other day and the RONA

So I caught this thing but its already gone again pretty much haha

Anyway, I been off the forum and journaling recently because I noticed something. EoG ST1 is doing great in a fundamental way, but I need to guide it more consciously by what @simon mentioned here:

The first cycle is now over and the report I posted above is still true. General believe in all things money will be good and I did also notice that not just my believes on money are easier, it also is easier in the pocket. Not like spending it, but it’s less of an issue rn.
However, I still want to guide it more directly.

Plus, productivity is firing, WHILE also being completely free. As in, I feel the freedom of the Ecstasy of Freedom. I know its all fine and well. Everything I have to take care of is a challenge I have to face and I KNOW will master.

My therapist also told me I am a man of tons of energy and I need challenges. I don’t have them much recently which is why I felt stuck. I think this also comes from EoG.

I added Power Can Corrupt because I wanted specifically to know about the bullshit I tell myself. It definitely opened my eyes up on something that’s a bit too private to share, but it worked. It is, however, also a powerful sub to run alongside EoG. Albeit probably more so in the later stages.

Next cylce I’ll like add RICH instead of PCC, so it’ll be
EoG ST1
RICH
Primal

Every other day 5 minutes also seems to work nicely.

Primal itself is doing god’s work. Self-confidence is through the roof and I am just fine with me being me and going after what I need.
Rejection is irrelevant. And I see women for what they are. To play with and have fun with. But the biggest key is definitely that I stopped trying to heal my wife. Because that just puts pressure on her. So I stopped that and will only help her if she wants me to.
Everything else is on her. That seems to work much better. She seems relaxed.

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5 min each title on ZP. What do you think?
#48

I did the list Simon mentioned there, at least a first iteration, and it’s funny after just one cycle of EoG I am already having a hard time finding things that stop me from achieving my goals.

I mean I still managed to write down a whole page, but some of them are laughable and the others are nothing that’s impossible to overcome.

ZP, man!!

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#49

Awesome dude, Primal sounds fun. :ok_hand:

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#50

Day 23, washout 1 1/2 weeks (4 days in)

The longer I run ZP subs, the more I am drawn to healing.

To UNRAVELLING my true self.
I truly want to live in my own fucking frame.

PCC and Primal definitely opened my eyes up on many things in my relationship where I try to be someone I am not to keep a facade.
I need to stop that.

The issue, however, is, it feels like I don’t know FULLY who I am. I think I have a rough idea, but maybe I am wrong.

I just don’t know which healing sub to add to EoG and/or if I do this right now at all.
Money is an issue so I should probably focus on this first.

EoG and DR seems to be overkill.
Maybe CFW. Then again, Primal has been healing quite well so far, I might just give it another cycle.

As you can tell, subconscious turmoil lol

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#51

I just read these lines in a post from Damon Brand, and thought of you and wanted to share them with you. I know you have done deep work with releasing expectation and lust for results. And he was discussing that topic.

Here’s the quote:

I know from messages I’ve received in the past two weeks, that some
people have looked back over their magickal notes and gone, “Oh my
god, every ritual I ever did worked eventually, and I’d completely
forgotten about them.” And of course, that shouldn’t be a surprise
because letting go of the need for a result helps it to come about.

The idea of ‘letting go’ makes people worry they aren’t allowed to think
about what they want. Thankfully, that’s not the case. You don’t have to
empty your mind and pretend you don’t really want the result. But you
don’t obsess about when and how the result will come. You don’t pester
the magick by waiting around for results, by checking up on the magick
all the time to see if it’s worked yet.

I thought you’d probably appreciate and understand his point.

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