30s Microloop Discussion Thread

I forgot I made a post about this.

All based off personal experience and conjecture about subliminals at the time, NOT the be-all-end-all, nor SC endorsed by @SaintSovereign

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@SaintSovereign HAS DECLINED TO COMMENT ON THE INTERNATIONAL MICROLOOP FIASCO, FURTHERING CONTROVERSY AMONGST WARRING FACTIONS.

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How does the subconscious differentiate between the start and end of a subliminal and the start and end of a listening session (many subliminals)?

How can the subconscious then be reminded of only that particular subliminal in the microloop rather than all the subliminals in that listening session you were previously exposed to?

Say you’re at a concert. Then you see a video file recorded at the concert. As you see the name, you’d be reminded of all songs played at that concert you were at.

If the answer is that the subconscious is “all-knowing”, then why can’t we just think of the subliminal instead of running a microloop? :smiley:

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Interesting comment.

First of all, a 30s microloop, as Saint analogy’d it, isn’t like remembering an artist and then remembering all the songs at the concert.

It’s more like hearing the first line of the chorus and then your brain automatically singing the rest of the chorus in your head.

Which is a bit more precise.

At the same time, there have been several people who have mentioned they can reactivate the subliminal by thinking about it. That seems possible too. And maybe that’s more like the “think about the artist and remember the songs” analogy.

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I have no idea.

Does anyone have the answer to this question? @Invictus ?

I know you wouldn’t have ran a 30s miccroloop on a custom (most likely) but have you seen any comments on this?

@Sub.Zero

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Recent post, still recommending to listen to 3+ minutes of the program before microlooping, and commenting that recon builds up over time

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@Billions i know for a fact micro loops with wanted works but i fear i may miss specific modules if i micro loop with customs.

I’m pretty sure main titles have modules too, just not from the Q store, but from the script for that subliminal.

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Nah man
I always run full loops of everything haha

What’s the longest amount of time after which it’s no longer considered micro loop?

I’m confused – and maybe it’s just about terminology.

I have always understood “loop” to mean the number of times you listen to one or more FULL TRACKS.

So if I have a playlist of 3 songs and listen to all three, that’s one loop. If I listen to them all again, that’s two loops. But if I listen to just one song or only part of a song, that’s not a loop.

So a “30 second loop”, to me, would mean there’s an audio file that is only 30 seconds long and I’ve done one loop when that sub finishes playing.

But that doesn’t seem to be how you all are using the term because there are no 30 second (or 3 minute) mp3s. The new ones are 15 minutes.

So when you talk about a micro loop of 30 seconds, do you mean just listening to the first 30 seconds of the 15 minute track? Or maybe ANY 30 seconds of the track?

Yes,

1 audio file played is 1 loop regardless of how long you play that file for.

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This.

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Anyone been trying a microloop on wake up and a microloop just before bed?

Feel like letting the script run itself through the night will integrate stronger during sleep and then a loop in the morning will help it run throughout the day

Still a theory thus far but eager to see if anyone else is trying this

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Very funny you mentioned that because I JUST mentioned that, then came to this notification, and your question is what I basically realized about 8 seconds ago.

I learned this from meditation, always do it morning or evening, never afternoon.

For me, I only ever listen to subliminals before bed. Ever. Hard rule.

I really agree it helps the sub process through the night… so by morning time, any recon has passed, and results are there but naturalized

The only exception is 30s microloops in the morning

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You only need to remove the words ‘or more’, and you’ll be using the term in the way it is conventionally applied here.

Generally, in other words, it is reserved for describing one track.

(Of course, on the other hand, ‘loop’ is, in the end, an ordinary English word, and can be used however you want to use it. You can make a loop around one subliminal track, ten subliminal tracks, or a city block. I’m just referring to the way it’s typically used in conversations and instructions here.)

There’s nothing wrong with this, grammatically. It just gets confusing due to the amount of room for multiple interpretations (and misinterpretations).

Anyway,

In general:

A loop is ‘A playthrough of one track’

A micro-loop is ‘A (very small) partial playthrough of one (15-minute) track’

And yes, it’s starting from the beginning (i.e., 0:00).

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Has anyone had success with 30s loops of customs? Perhaps 60s may be needed due to customs having two cores in some cases?

Didn’t Saint say awhile back when recommending 3 min loops, that customs would need 4 or 5 mins due to the amount of information in them including two cores?

It’s been awhile but maybe if you’ve ran full 15 mins of a custom for a long time, 30 secs would work but I would think you wouldn’t even get past the primer with that amount of time, regardless if you’d been listening for awhile. What is to signify one custom from another to your mind if 30 seconds is not long enough to identify the correct memory of said custom?

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You mean just if all songs have the same intro and you don’t listen to more than the intro how would you know which song it is?

On the other side of it worked for people then it works, explanation secondary.

The primer isn’t all stacked in the beginning, it’s interwoven throughout the program.

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