Well said. Couldn’t seem to find my words to articulate and explain thanks for the clarification. So it’s the brainwave patterns changing that I’m feeling got it .
Do the brainwaves differ between masked input and ultrasonic in any significant way? Or would that be too much variability to measure?
No you’re ok, I appreciate you sharing your experience. Got some stuff to think about now regarding ultrasonics.
Is this the right way to use the 5 minute
Day 1 : sub first 5 minutes
Day 2 : rest
Day 3 : sub 2nd 5 minutes
Day 4 : rest
Day 5 : sub 3rd 5 minutes
Day 6 : rest
Repeat
Has 5-7 minutes in a Zp custom the same benefits?
Or should I lisen to the whole 15 min?
Is the whole script in 5-7 minutes included?
You’re welcome.
Personally, am running the whole 15 minutes. I don’t want to spend time in experimenting and finding out what works for me cause I know I can decieve myself with what works best.
Too much work too so am just plain lazy.
Will wait for an official 5 or 7 minute audio file and will run that when SaintSovereign and Fire releases it.
If not, am happy with 15 mins especially since I came from a time when I used to run SubliminalClub audios the whole night (7 hours a night minimum) back during those PrlmalTech Build days.
Compared to that, 15 mins per sub is a good deal. Although am not complaining that you guys are testing out the best runtimes.
Did you get your question answered?

Will wait for an official 5 or 7 minute audio file and will run that when SaintSovereign and Fire releases it.
I feel the same way. I tried the 7 minutes but I needed to back off. Too rich for my blood! Lol. Recon like a mf.
then next time I play from 5 to 10 m marker after that from 10 to 15 minute marker and repeat .is that right ?
no, that’s not right. you always play from 0 to 5min. @SaintSovereign mentioned a few days ago that he will update the listening guide with the 5 min instructions where he will explain everything in more detail. He said that people should start listening to the customs with 5 min
yes the question answered, thanks @RVconsultant
SOOOOOOO
Where are we now? 3minutes?5?7?

Where are we now? 3minutes?5?7?
3 mins according to SaintSovereign. Personally am running 15 mins.
Still 15 min of rich deep delicious download into my system
I currently use 7 mins. I noticed a significant difference in time it takes to reach appreciable results from 15.
I now use the 15 minutes 2 loops back to back but with 3days rest and I like it .
Interesting,
If I am listening to one 15min loop every other day I get recon on 3rd listening. What happen is:
- Day 1 : sub 1
- Day 2 : rest
- Day 3 : sub 2
- Day 4 : rest
- Day 5 : sub 3
- Day 6 : mad recon
So to aleviate this what works is
- Day 1 : sub
- Day 2 : rest
- Day 3 : sub
- Day 4 : rest
- Day 5 : rest
- Day 6 : sub
- Day 7 : rest
- Day 8 : sub
- Day 9 : rest
- Day 10 : rest
- Day 11 : sub
I tried once reducing to 7min and I can’t say it made a difference. Not sure if there is a point in listening less.
If your running 3 subs you should be running 2 on one day and 1 on the other that the original pattern.
Day 1: sub 1 and sub 2
Day 2: rest day
Day 3: sub 3
Day 4: rest day
Repeat

If your running 3 subs you should be running 2 on one day and 1 on the other that the original pattern.
I tried that, but it gives me strong never ending recon. I found out by adding one rest day here and there, it allows me to get some benefits.