Well said, that’s a great point.
Nonchalance is a high ROI tool for sure.
I think WANTED has some self worth to mesh with the nonchalance or at least it strengthens one’s self-image and sense of self (masculinity/alpha scripting).
Also having the Total Nonchalance module or Lion IV module along with an Alpha core could be interesting and fun.
Isn’t nonchalance built into Alpha titles to begin with? I’ve noticed those effects in Khan at least?
Of course. Because alpha titles have status scripting, and nonchalance is one of the absolute building blocks of status, lmao.
Maybe we should get in a discussion to tear apart these alpha subliminals, and see exactly what status is.
Lion IV is one of my favourite modules.
This is how i feel 24/7 and people notice. As calm as I am, I’m filled to the brim with power. Physically, mentally, spiritually. You can feel it pumping through your veins. Anyone running Lion IV in their custom isn’t someone I’d want to f*ck with. That’s the kind of vibe you give off.
100% accurate. I’ve had this module in my Stark/True social custom for a while now and it’s so powerful. Would be interesting to add total nonchalance in and see how it manifests along with Lion IV.
Idk bro
I’ve had results like some sort of aura surging out of my chest, which has made people obey me instantly, without me even doing anything, with the oldest titles, lol. These modules will never do for me.
Good point and great question.
As always, this is all my opinion based on my personal experience:
Running an Alpha title will most definitely strengthen your self worth, confidence and masculinity in a way that will make you more calm in general.
Emperor Black is a great example of this. Although I haven’t run it, I notice people commonly report the powerful calming effects due to the dominance and power. They notice less reactiveness, being more present and having more security in themselves - things of that nature.
When I ran Emperor for many months, I developed confidence, emotional stability, mental strength, higher stress tolerance, a strong sense of self, better social smoothness, etc.
On Khan I experienced a lot of that profound calmness, “godfidence” and primal power while also stretching my comfort zone to the outskirts of the stratosphere, by not hesitating to take action on every minute ping. This is also a form of raising stress tolerance at least in terms of social comfortability, goal achieving and action-taking.
These are basic alpha characteristics, it’s all very in the box.
The type of nonchalance I’m talking about is the type of nonchalance that is in WANTED. Something about it is enigmatically outside of the box, like an intangible or superpower in a way that is alien-like. It just pops out from your character in a powerful way.
I don’t know what type of scripting they use in WANTED, whether nonchalance is directly included or if it’s commonly manifested indirectly through expression of the script. We will never know, but one thing is for sure… the nonchalance on WANTED is irregular and archetypal, if not exaggerated in some sense. It’s a sexy attribute of the enigma and this is why people report a noticeable expression of nonchalance on WANTED compared to other alpha titles, as it’s quite distinct.
A couple of personal examples from myself:
For example let’s put this into perspective situationally:
If you have high self worth and are mentally strong (stoic, high stress tolerance and alpha in general) then of course you won’t be perturbed by much.
Godlike Masculinity is a product that highlights this type of solid immovability quite well with one of its objectives:
This is similar to nonchalance but I feel like it’s based around being Alpha. Almost like it’s “mortal”, if that makes sense. Nonchalance I feel like is… immortal.
The Alpha immovability is like punching someone and your hand bouncing off because they’re made out of titanium so they’re unaffected.
The Nonchalant immovability is like punching someone and your hand going through them so they’re unaffected.
Typical unfazed versus alien-like unfazed.
The effects are similar but the mechanism is different. One is predictable and understandable whereas the other is just “wtf” and perplexing.
I used an analogy of bows/swords/arrows vs alien plasma technology in one of my previous posts in a journal. I believe that nonchalance, once maximized to its full potential and powerfully integrated… falls into the alien plasma technology. It has a “wtf” factor, fun element to it that can be taken to a high level but it’s not for everyone and for sure needs that solid foundation. It’s just a tool but it also happens to be high ROI (referring to the modules), as in putting it in your custom should have broadly beneficial effects in various areas of your life.
Forgot to mention that Primal and Primal Seduction are products that probably have that nonchalance in it, as one of the objectives is:
That’s a good idea lol
What exactly is status, in your opinion?
Also, how does one raise their status?
(Anyone can share their opinion)
I think status raising can be achieved by utilizing the Law of Requisite Variety from Cybernetics.
You become more “flexible” than others by adhering to whatever your code/frame is and not bending under another person’s influence.
So the other will keep trying to get at you. But you are unflinching. They will get tired and realize you are a rock.
What exactly is status… You see, now we run into the problem of trying to figure out how it is like an interconnected web. Status without dominance is lame, and dominance without status is lame, the same with “power” and “authority”.
One without the other, falls apart.
Anyway, I consider status this incredible air around you which gets you special treatment, or has others in awe. With enough internal status, you can actually be extremely intimidating to people, especially people that don’t serve you. It’s like, even animals can sense this in you, cats and dogs will treat you differently, depending on how much status you exude.
With status, you walk into a room, and you start to effortlessly own it, a room, social circle, hierarchy, whatever. You raise to the top without any difficulty.
I think status is the one thing that human beings crave more than anything else. To have worth. Importance.
Internal status(which eventually projects outside): The POTENTIAL to reach a level of external status.
External status: The real and tangible position of the status holder in the hierarchy which is caused by the internal status.
A stark’s status is different from a commander’s one, since their internal framework is different. Identity is at direct action here.
This is what I am aiming at on a spiritual level. Indeed, the term “dropping importance” could be seen as a metaphor for nonchalance on a meta or macro level. Intriguing.
Imagine the power available to us… when we start dropping the importance of life itself…?
Ehm… I’ll be returning to my edgelord lair. For now… 
Stark + Nouveau R.I.C.H. just continues to surprise me. I run a body positive fitness page on Instagram with a lot of followers, mainly for fun and networking with like-minded individuals. The mission is to combat all this modern day mental illness created by social media such as unexpected body/fitness ideals, low self-worth, body dysmorphia, comparing one’s self with others etc… pretty much all the main forms of mental illness that social media is contributing to, targeted primarily to men. Every time I go on social media, it’s this “look at me” narcissism culture bullshit so I use Subliminal Club’s products to try and help spark the change I wish to see in the world. Stark has been paramount in growing my following. Yesterday, I uploaded a video of myself talking about “halo effects”. Woke up this morning, scrolled threw a ton of positive feedback. Kept scrolling, found this 1 nasty comment with a decent amount of likes from an account with no profile picture, and 4 followers. The comment was a low self-esteem person (clearly) going “it’s easy for you to say, etc”, alluding to how I look. I didn’t know how to register it because in my mind I kept thinking “there’s no way to win, lol”. Asked my girlfriend what to do since she’s the other half of my brain. She gave me a spark of an idea which turned into a bonfire thanks to these subliminals working through my subconscious mind. Everything is just so seemless with these subliminals.
Overall, this social media escapade is great… I get the manifestations, the challenges, the feedback, the ideas, and just keep leveling up.
I’m not even running any sexual attraction subliminals, just Stark + Nouveau R.I.C.H. and the amount of support I get from especially women, when they’re not even my targeted audience is amazing. Just goes to show that if you put yourself out there, you’ll attract people who are on the similar wave as you.
Why do you use Stark and not Stark Black?
They each have different outcomes.
Stark Black isn’t actually the “update” to Stark. It’s an experimental/artisinal title.
My social media goal is to reach a specific # of organic followers.
After I reach that number, I will never run Stark again.
How I view Stark vs Stark Black for this intended goal:
Stark - I’ve tried Stark for social media building before and it worked 100%. Based on my past experience with it, I’m 100% sure that I’ll get to my follower goal with it.
Stark Black - I’ve never used it. It has fame/popularity dialed to the maximum which I definitely don’t want more of.
Partly hypothetical scenario:
If I need to clean the bathtub (something I actually have to do right now lol), I can choose between 2 different cleaning tools:
The cleaning tool that I’ve used before with great success and I’m 100% confident that I can clean the bathtub with.
The new cleaning tool that I’ve never tried before, which also has an aspect to it that I definitely don’t need more of.
Which cleaning tool am I going to use? #1.
My girlfriend: “What if the new cleaning tool works better? Don’t you want to try it?”
My answer: “No, I don’t have time for that shit… it’s just a bathtub… how much more of a difference can it possibly make?”.
I give this answer, while I’m cleaning the bathtub lol.
In fact, I could finish cleaning the bathtub and the conversation can still be going.
I don’t have time for shit, I’m getting old and I have bills to pay. All of y’all youngin’ experimenters runnin’ around. Back in my day, you were lucky if you even had a subliminal.
Why? You prefer some other archetype?
I’m honestly still confused at whether I’m closer to Stark or Emperor. Certainly not Khan lol.
What are you talking about champ?
This the exact type of question, that is a foreign language to me. I literally don’t understand, lol.
I don’t run subliminals to become an “archetype”, whatever that even is.
I run subliminals to actualize clear goals and attain tangible things that I want in real life.
even if it’s not quantitative:
An “archetype” is not even a tangible thing, it’s a ghost. I’m not a ghostbuster, lol.
My question was actually more of “why will you NEVER run Stark again?” - I thought it’s some kind of specific aversion to Stark. But since we are at it,
what if many different subliminals are able to achieve your goals?
Let’s say that goals are wealth + status
Stark, Stark Black, Emperor, Ascended Mogul, Emperor HOM - just to name a few - all help achieving the same things: wealth, status, connections. Let’s say AM is more of a “starting a business” sub (at least that’s what I’ve observed reading the forum). We are left with a lot of versatile subs in terms of business building - I can see how they all would work well in any type of business/investment process, to be honest. So how would one choose?
You can take out fame and still be left with Emperor, HOM and no-fame version of SB lol
That’s why I’m thinking about subs as archetypes.
If necessary, I’ll even give a specific example. I’m currently planning to invest in real estate. To get even more specific, it’s mortgage, renovating the building and dividing multiple rooms into multiple studios and then renting it out. Emperor, HOM and Stark fit well for this, how does one choose?