Urgent Ask. Should I end my washout at 3 days (ending today) and start with part 2 of this stack run? I feel like I want to start tomorrow to get off of this low confidence and bad feelings I am having about my situation.
Yes. However I ask about 3 days because of mounting evidence that 3 days is sufficient for a washout after 21 days. I am looking to assess risks.
Like, chance of recon given that I’d start with ME + Emperor. Value proposition of skipping 2 additional rest days.
The most recent post username SaintSovereign made on the topic:
seems to suggest that it’s prudent to stick to the 5 day recommendation.
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@RVconsultant, thanks for asking.
I am feeling much better than earlier. Yesterday was a day of several wins both in work and in my personal life. I’ll recap quickly:
- My eyes got checked in the morning by the doctor, who informed me that they are experiencing dry eye; the other effects I was experiencing were just a part of the healing process post-surgery and there’s nothing to worry about.
- In work, some significant advancements occurred in the project I’m spearheading as well as another project I’m executing on.
- I ended up manifesting free food which became the basis of my OMAD.
- I successfully pulled off NF yesterday.
- A lot of preparation got done for my next trip (coming up soon)!
- I of course feel great that Heartsong ZP was released, because now I have all the main subs I need for stack 2.
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Cool. Where are you going?
Going to Latin America!
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Nice! Have fun.
I will, and I am going to be manifesting as well! The continuation of my stack begins exactly on flight day (aka tomorrow).
Well well well, it is day 3 of stack 1.5 already. Unfortunately I have not been doing daily journaling this time as I am currently on the trip which started on the exact same day as the updated stack.
Here’s the last few days’ listening:
Day 1: ME ZP + Emperor ZP
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: ME ZP + Chosen ZP
As you can see I am focusing on getting up to speed with ME, the title that I would like to change my life. And what does that mean, exactly? I feel that I need to draw out the understanding that I am in control and have the power to shape my external reality all the time. I also would like to actually manifest very great things and also speed up the results I get from other ZP subs.
Earlier today, I tried to visualize some of the items I wrote down for the list method. I was pleasantly surprised with what I could already do. Now, I need to put this more consistently into action and believe that the visualization is actually doing something.
Rest Day.
I’m getting to understand a sense of how this trip is. Let’s just say that I’m not going to be putting this anywhere near the top of my travels so far. The one great thing about it is that I got to explore this additional country. I’m also getting some lessons (I should have learned already) around guided tours and trip planning that I should have remembered. But the last time a trip like this occurred was years ago, so I had forgotten it unfortunately. I think I put a bit too much stock in some things here.
I’ve been thinking about some other stuff lately, let’s see if anything relates to the subs.
- How can I do even better manifestations? Joseph Alai released another video today, after a fairly long hiatus. I now have a very useful technique in my toolbelt.
- I want to do conscious manifestation daily, not just written ones or passive manifestation. But how do I do that? Today what I did was find a guided meditation session online and followed along that while focusing on one thing I’d like to manifest, which is successfully moving out of my parents’ place with no hassle. I felt confident in the seed planted after that session ended, which is good news.
- @DarkPhilosopher, check this out: I’m getting more and more confident that the extended fast I’m planning is going to be a great one in many ways. With the ideas I came up with for what to do during the fast, as well as the possibility of it being a highly productive (work-wise) fast, I feel great in the idea of it, even if EFs are generally considered challenging. While my set-point is currently at 15 days, I can extend it a little longer because of the fasting supplements I’m using. Honestly, if I get TO 15 days and think it’s been great (read: not a detriment on health and on career progress) then I will extend it, because seldom does there come by a great opportunity to do such a fast.
During my very first (2 month) fast I was very productive at work. In general I do occasionally have lulls in creativity, during those moments I’m extremely productive doing routine tasks but slow on the uptake when doing new things. Apart from people at work offering food and eating around you the only recommendation I can give is to schedule day 3 & 4 be in the weekend. They tend to be the days where your body doesn’t want to do anything.
I scrolled up a bit to search for your plans, but got stuck at the mention of manifesting free food. 
I’m curious about those fasting supplements you mention.
Personally, circumstances have conspired to move all my outdoor appointments to March, so I’m strongly considering making February a fasting month with some light exercise to keep building the habit. Normally I don’t like fasting during the cold months, but when opportunity knocks…
Good luck and thanks for tagging me!
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It is great that you were productive at work. It gives me more confidence that I’ll be able to do what I need to do just fine. With regards to the changes I will be making to my schedule:
- I intend to add in an extra work hour, meaning I’ll start an hour early and end at the same time. At least, that’s the idea. Among several reasons this is to account for lulls that are a result of fasting that may occur later in the day.
- I probably will not be sitting close to my teammates most of the time because of the stuff regarding food as you mentioned. Fortunately for me, this is currently acceptable behavior at work because going to the office and sitting at one’s assigned desk is not required just yet.
- Will continue to go into the office despite the above, because I am simply more disciplined at the office than at home.
- Adding in a end-of-the-workday walk around the entire building, to disengage from work, pass time as well as burn more fat.
Beyond work, I will:
- Work on one particular hobby after work fairly consistently.
- I’m going to sleep considerably earlier. I’m looking to sleep during the entirety of the 10PM - 2AM window since that’s the time HGH release is at its max.
- Continue to exercise. I’ll be doing LISS cardio (fat burning) as well as strength training (structured with reduced weights and reps—the point here is to signal to my body that it still needs to maintain muscle).
What are your thoughts on all this?
Have you decided? It would be great to share the experience. I am not starting today, however that fast IS starting later this month.
Exactly. The opportunity to do a long EF does not come by very often. It is for this reason that I am very much open to extending my fast beyond the original time range until my fasting supplement has run out.
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You’re sleeping during the day? Make sure to block light for deeper sleep.
As far as exercise goes, I generally do light exercise as well. But then last year I heard about research which stated that exercise might actually increase muscle loss. I didn’t notice a big improvement when fasting without exercise, so this time I’ll probably do light exercise again. One caveat is that my body has a tendency to decrease all exercise motivation. Which is why I wanted to build the habit first.
Love the idea of that walk.
I’m finishing my perishables now, it’ll start tomorrow or the day after. If I can overcome the weekend cravings I’ll likely keep it up until March.
It’s easier for me now that working from home is so easy. But I’ll stick to no longer than a month. That will give me time to refeed properly. And since I am running Emperor Fitness I may not fast as often.
The eventual goal would be to do alternate day fasting with a 3 day fast the first weekend of every month. I want to see if I can maintain that.
About your supplements, make sure there’s no fat soluble stuff, only water-soluble. That is, if it’s a water fast. I don’t think fat soluble would do any harm, but it would likely go straight through you.
Whoops. I flipped the time. Corrected it. Now it should make more sense and align with what you may have researched yourself.
LISS Cardio is not conducive to muscle retention. However weight lifting (given the correct parameters to avoid causing excess muscle damage) can help retain it so I’m going to do that this time.
My multivitamin has fat soluble stuff. Not to worry—the fat soluble items will go straight through as you said. I know this works based off of the last time I did such a great fast.
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I am strongly considering running Ascension as part of the next stack instead of HS. So it would look like:
- ME
- Ascension
- Chosen
Why?
- Ascension continues the development from Emperor but in a more essential form.
- Ascension processes fast, I’ve wanted to run it for a while but could never justify running it for a long period of time in earlier tech iterations. 45 days with ZP tech is good.
- Ascension can make me a big-time action man who asserts himself strongly. I’ve been seeing this already develop recently, especially with emperor. However during the upcoming extended fast I feel like this will especially be important. I cannot keep myself standing still. I want to be busy, I want to be out and about and also assert my boundaries regarding my fast (and my overall self, of course)
- HS is something I want to run, of course, but my ME isn’t quite there yet AND with so much of the stack time happening during a fast it’s be a bit difficult to capitalize on opportunities that HS may present in the time
- Ascension would be satisfying because the results are seen very quickly. HS on the other hand may take a bit more time (this might be a limiting belief, hopefully ME and then HS itself can help fix that)
@DarkPhilosopher @RVconsultant for thoughts on this.
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Rationally I don’t have anything to offer. Intuitively I would say that fasting is a time to turn inward more, not a time to become a “big-time action man who asserts himself strongly.”
Although you can probably make it work, you might not get the most out of the fast that way. During my own fasts I’ve always noticed I’m less of an action taker, more clearing the slate and preparing to be that action taker afterwards. Sometimes it feels like I’m wasting the sub’s potential because my body and mind are too busy. But maybe that’s just me, I’m introverted by nature.
ME is inwardly focused, Chosen also for the most part. Ascension is the standout here. It might take a lot of your energy if you want it to express itself fully.
Do let me know what you intend to do.
You did give me an idea though. How would a “warm” stack like HeartSong, Chosen from Within, Mind’s Eye and maybe Love Bomb do during a fast? Or instead of Love Bomb the newly released As Above and So Below ZP’s during meditation for a more spiritual pursuit.
I perfectly understand why you’d say this. I can relate, in fact. I’ve done multiple extended fasts already, and I have noted a tendency to not want to do very much during these fasts. In addition, I am an introvert myself although the introvert percentage (if we’re going by MBTI tests—I last posted it in the testing thread) has declined significantly over time.
However, it is precisely because of this knowledge that fasting puts pressure against action that I believe it’d be beneficial to run a sub like Ascension. I want to be taking massive action during the fast—however, outside of the interactions with people at work I don’t expect to be doing much in the way of social interaction. The “action man” part is mostly in the form of being disciplined in my schedule, which involves hobbies and a lot of errands that I’m deferring to occur during the fast so I stay busy and occupied. This is as opposed to watching shows to pass the time.
The strong assertion is mostly in work and against people who might want to challenge my current path (especially regarding the fast—although I am going to keep it undisclosed as much as possible, at some point I may need to do this).
From what I know, Chosen is not inwardly focused primarily. You do have a point in that Chosen has to shift a lot of things internally (e.g. “Develop a deep sense of hope, peace and positivity for the future”). But it has outward alpha scripting. Chosen From Within has its alpha scripting pointed inwards, but Chosen is decidedly outwards. The reason I am running Chosen is to get my next work promotion, and to get there I must be a work leader. In other words, I am very much looking for Chosen’s outward scripting to be realized in my life.
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Listening For Today
- Mind’s Eye
- Chosen
The special thing I did with my listening today is (through iTunes) set my ZP titles to be 5 minutes in duration. I initially set it to be 5:00 but I was a bit unsettled seeing my iPhone’s music player end moments after reaching 4:59. I understand why it does that (sharply ending at 5:00 means you’d never actually see 5:00 show on the screen), but for psychological satisfaction, I’m going to set the stop at 5:01 moving forward so that I do see 5:00 on the screen.
Today marks my first full day back home after the trip. I pulled off OMAD once again. This time it was to help me recover from the janky eating of the trip, which extended all the way to yesterday (a day mostly dedicated to traveling back). I also got through a significant portion of the to-do list that I had set up for this week. I definitely can do more, though I need to figure out what that more is.
I wish I could start my fast tomorrow, to be honest. The main reason I can’t is because of a big event coming up later this week. My fast currently starts literally the day after that event.
Changes coming
- This is the final week of Stack 1. Saturday (2/12) will be the last day I listen to the current stack.
- I intend to transition into a sleep schedule between 10 PM and 6AM, to do well in the fast that starts next week. Will I be able to do this by the end of the week, or will I have to jump right into it (aided by sleep supplements) at the beginning of the fast? We’ll see.
- I have all but finalized Stack 2, which will swap out Emperor for Ascension.
Questions for myself to determine:
- What is the BEST routine for consciously manifesting and utilizing Mind’s Eye? Currently, all I do is the list method. During the trip, I’d think about some scenes (mostly conversation-based) here and there when I had downtime, for a few minutes.
- How are people at work perceive me now? I have been running Chosen and Emperor for some time now. I’ll be going back into the office tomorrow.
- What is the outline of how my fasting days will go? The weekdays are much easier to answer than the weekends. I need to schedule more events and things to happen on the weekends so that I am not staying at home all day. That is exactly what I want to avoid.
- When will I feel ready to move on from Mind’s Eye? I feel like I want to keep running this until there is no doubt in my ability to consciously manifest my reality. When do I achieve results permanence with this title?