@BreathingJaguar @IronClaws @Luther24
I seem to have shown up late to the event. Please take a break.
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Itās all over already, lol.
However, if you have a feedback to give meā¦ you know Iām always open to it. Whether publicly or privately.
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Feedback
If you feel something doesnāt fit in here, just flag it, notice the moderators and Answergroup and let it go.
But reading through these threads, it felt like you were highly emotional. Seriously triggered. Even enraged. Also if just from the ridiculousness.
Iām still reading through campfire policy thread and donāt know what is deemed inappropriate. As valuable and knowledgeable longterm member of this community you know that stuff.
Iām not really into this stuff either. I asked for a clarification, he explained it.
Although I believe there is far more out there than I know and deem possible. The pure existence of a sub for Astral projection is a statement that SC caters to needs beyond what most universities publicly research.
If this forum isnāt the place to discuss this, thatās just fine. SC is the authority to define the extent of what is appropriate and what is not, and by extension so are the moderators.
I absolutely respect that.
Their house, their rules!
@RVconsultant Iām giving my best to become a valuable member of this community, not overstepping boundaries.
PS Iām a fan of your asswhoppings on taking action and listening to subs constantly. Still I believe that visualization as part of loa is a good additional practice since it is recalibrating your ras.
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I meant feedback from @RVconsultant.
You just had your entire post deleted in the other thread because you made an insane joke about rape, violence and children. A joke which should never be on a forum like this.
Nowā¦
@Lichtenauer, let me ask you a serious question here. You seem like a reasonable thinker.
Is this enraged, triggered, and highly emotional? Sure.
Now ask yourself, is this a reasonable response? Use common sense, and think in the real world. Think about how normal people perceive. I donāt know if you go outside and actually talk to real life everyday people - I donāt know.
If youāre not getting dissonance when you read stuff like thatā¦ then you yourself have an issue.
I donāt know how youāre all focused on me, and entertaining a person who clearly abuses psychoactive drugs, makes zero sense (likely from psychosis) and believes in physical shapeshifting into animals.
If 2 more people come and start defending this shit - Iām out of here for good. Itās nothing personal, I just have standards.
Think about how this type of shit ruins the subliminal industry and makes people go "what the fuck, am I reading? Making them want to turn off the forum.
Iām actually starting to question the types of people that are on this forum now. Thereās absolutely no way, that this discussion has gone this far.
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Iāll tell you why, lol. Itās quite simply because itās a reality check for a lot of people.
Anyways, if RV, Saint or Fire give me any feedback, Iām perfectly open to that and they already know that I will take it in without question.
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What if, just bear with me what if this whole thing never happened? What if we just flag the first post about shapeshifting and RVconsultant or Saint, Fire will just take care of it? No bad blood would be spilled between Luther and others, like one is for one team and the other for other team. We would not have like 30 posts about it with passionate arguments, some of them angry, etc.
Saint, Fire would just close this thread even delete it, and when we will show this forum to someone else he or she would not find a whole discussion between members of this forum arguing against each other. No one would get hurt and we could focus more on important things like maintaining higher hype for upcoming stuff.
Edit: btw some of your posts can be published as a book due to its length.
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100%. Not sure how this got derailed but I just wanted to provide some facts on how other people are reacting to this as well.
Maybe a book should be written. Title being the Untold Tail Of SC Confusion. Written by yours truly @Deadpool
Edit: Deleted my post as thereās no point to this now. Just going to ignore it.
You are flattering me. I am not a writer 
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@vesper btw this was not meant specifically only for you.
The English language has this weird thing with some words like YOU that you sometimes never know if it is singular or plural.
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I read this wrong at first glance.
I actually donāt care if people know I run subliminals. Iāve run Khan for so long, Iām extremely unhinged and donāt really care what people think.
What I meant about this:
Most people when I tell them about subliminals, they type it in YouTubeā¦ and boom the YouTube subliminal space is full of absolute nonsense. Shifting into mermaids, dragons, werewolfs, gain lbs of fat overnight, activate your pineal gland, remove your chakras, āactive kundalini instantlyā. For the record, this was posted just 3 days ago:
Title:
āLOVEFIELD DIGITAL TALISMAN - PINEAL GLAND ACTIVATOR AND THIRD EYE OPENER (TRY IT, IT WORKS!ā
This is literally what Iām talking about. In the comments of those YouTube subliminals, itās literally just crazy, young and inexperienced people with a bunch of trauma.
Subliminal Club is the real deal. They have stuff for actual successful go-getters, high status people, celebrities, CEOās, closers, streamers, pro-gamers, influencers, university professors. Do you understand my point, the disconnect?
Do you see the disconnect?
If I go up to them, they know Iām not like that guy and they will trust me. However, the point isā¦ they need me to have the justification and trust to jump into Subliminals.
Otherwise the doorway for first impression is absolutely fucked.
My gripe is not what people think about me, itās with all of the growth, transformation, healing, and empowerment (all of which they could desperately use to change their life and positively affect the world for the better) that they are missing out on, due to a false misrepresentation and absolutely ridiculous impression of Subliminals in general created by flat out crazy people.
Everytime I come across some bullshit, Iāve reminded of that. That might not irk the average person here. Most people arenāt thinking about the outside looking in, theyāre focused on themselves and I completely get that. Iāve gotten so many results from these subliminals, I naturally began to start thinking about the bigger picture and how I can help others.
People like you, and me are good to go. But what about the next person? Would you not like for Subliminal Club to grow?
Imagine someone out there with traumas, low self-esteem, or living in povertyā¦ running away from Subliminal Club, all because of being turned off by insane and ridiculous nonsense.
Thatās my gripe, and thatās why I have the reaction that I doā¦ aside from basic common sense.
Thatās why:
Iām one of the most aggressively vocal advocators for action on the entire forum.
One of the most aggressively vocal advocators for self love on the entire forum.
The most vocal anti-porn person on the entire forum.
The most vocal āget of your comfort zoneā (move the goal post) person on the entire forum.
One of the most vocal āfuck inadequacyā person on the entire forum.
One of the most vocal pro-masculinity person on the entire forum.
Iām not quiet about shit, lol because thatās not what growth is. Iām not actually invested in this as much anyone thinks, Iām just creating discussion in the hopes that maybe, possibly, there can be some change in attitude or awareness about this issue - thatās all.
Nobody did that, lol. Everyone just entertained itā¦ thatās literally why weāre hereā¦ because Iām the only one that spoke up, expressed my lack of tolerance and then people got upset.
Look at the original post, and look at how how many people entertained all of that hallucinogenic, Satan cutting, meeting with Jesus, activated kundalini crapā¦ actually giving him recommendations for spiritual titles such as RoS and ROM.
Imagine giving a person like this RoS - that in itself is an entirely different dissonance based on irresponsibility.
Now, that Iāve created all this focus and discussionā¦ what you proposed @Deadpool can actually take place as people have more awareness.
Which is literally the whole point of what Iām doing.
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I have personally different approach than you. Iād rather save my energy if I see any nonsense I ignore it. It also saves my sanity and redirects my energy to something more useful but I am human after all as well or rather to say superhero and sometimes get caught in this kind of entertainment as well.
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And do not be bad to @IronClaws , she is a lady after all so we gotta be nice to her
You know gentlemenās stuff.
Iām moving on from the discussion. In the future I will just flag them and move on.
Everyoneās happy, and we can all go back to kicking ass.
@BreathingJaguar, @IronClaws, @Lichtenauer I apologize if I was rude, disrespectful, out of pocket, or out of line. I take full accountability and Iām moving on.
If RV, Saint, or Fire have any feedback to give me whether publically or privatelyā¦ they know that Iām 101% open to it without argument.
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No bad blood brother. Another day another slay : )
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So the moral story of all of this is do not do bad blood because you know heart diseases, cardiovascular problems, etc.
Having good blood is important
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I realized that after Iāve hit send. But you spoke about the impression this forum could make on newbies. Me beeing here for roughly three months, Iām still considering me a newbie. I look at knowledgeable longtime members, such as you, for guidance. Therefore I didnāt delete the post.
As I stated earlier, Iām new here and still learning the ropes. And I have to admit that I turned cynical over all the injustice and insanity of the last 8 years.
Understandable? Yes.
Productive? No.
In my believe, for achieving a goal in a discussion, itās best to keep a calm head and state your concerns without attacking someone.
Whenever I get attacked I automatically go in a defensive position. Even if the other person is right, I couldnāt acknowledge that because I felt attacked.
Itās slowly healing with me, in a way that I can acknowledge his truth afterwards.
If the person would have instead just stated the fact without attacking me, it would have been much easier to agree that I wasnāt right.
I believe itās a a question of ROI. If I can keep the emotions out, can state my case without the other person feeling attacked, I will get what I want easier.
Just something like:
"Hey, Sorry to inform you, but this forum isnāt that place to discuss this stuff. There are clear rules about that. " Could have been much more effective.
Youāre so invested in this debate, that you spned a lot of energy (which you are free to do if you want) for result you seem not to like.
Thatās my point.
I would just state my point unemotional, flag it an go elsewhere. RV knows his stuff
No hard feelings from my side. I appreciate your opinions.
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Okay. Good to see that this issue is resolved and no hard feelings between all of you.
And yes, please flag the post that seem out of the ordinary to any of you and move on. Engaging in them will result in loads of wasted energy like several of you have rightly said.
I will admit I have done the same before (as in fueling the fire thinking am stopping it) but at the end of the day it isnāt productive and we feel tired from all that talking/writing. Itās effort which is better spent elsewhere to improve our lives and through that help others.
@BreathingJaguar - would recommend the Subliminal Club Black section of the forum for you if you want to discuss esoteric topics. That way you can discuss these sort of material with like minded folks.
Cheers!
EDIT: I forgot to mention that the possibikity of having bad blood between you and others is also high when you have these kind of debates. It is better to avoid this and have a more relaxed discussion on the forum.
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I mean that old train has itās charm
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Btw about flagging posts and not engaging this was already said in the past by either Rvconsultant or by Campfire policy so this is not a new thing. We just forgot about that.
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Seems like you and some others donāt understand my point, lol.
I will summarize it for you:
- Person makes a thread talking about all types of nutty, insane and unsettling nonsense.
- Everyone actually entertains him and gives him recommendations.
I look at his post, and then I look at the fact that people are entertaining him as normalā¦ and my impression is that there is literally zero standard here - something that irks me for reasons I have mentioned.
Iām attacking #2. Everything youāre saying about flagging and going elsewhere, is literally what Iām advocating for. People did not flag him, they went along and actually gave recommendations.
Go and see, itās literally in the thread. They did that because they did not see the issue.
Thatās a problem, and thatās a mindset of people in the community here which Iām addressing.
You can make discussions about
- the importance of taking action
- the importance of having a consistent stack
and alsoā¦
- flagging and not entertaining nonsensical bullshit
- what classifies as bullshit
- not giving subliminal recommendations to clearly unstable people
Of course my method of doing this, could be done in a more cordial manner. However, I donāt think thatās effective. I have to be authentic with the dissonance for 2 reasons. Firstly because this is ridiculous stuffā¦ literally, shapeshifting, kundalini, satan, etc itās the same bullshit and itās all āwhat in the world is thisā level shit. Secondly and more importantly, I feel that the authenticity is needed, to give people insight into the level of dissonance it creates in normal people, help them see the why of the issue and what needs to be flagged/not entertained because it seems like people forgot and had no awareness of outside looking in perception.
After all, folks read his post, didnāt even blink and then said āAh yes, Revelation of Spirit, yes go and run thatā.
Made me feel like Iām in a twilight zone, on the one forum that I visit regularly. Itās like, nah fuck that Iām going to be vocal about stuff.
@Lichtenauer now maybe you understand my point, lol.
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