Subliminal Changes

[subliminalguy]

@qOS,

I’ve been considering long-term goals, and I’m highly likely to do a third cycle with Phoenix.

Post-Phoenix, I’ve seen the suggestions for stacking Peace with Heartsong, and I’m drawn to it since I desire a good relational foundations.

On my next cycle I’m considering replacing Ascension with Peace, and I’m wondering how Peace would mix with Phoenix. What might I expect?

Additionally, the one module I’ve considered but have not followed through with is adding Aphrodite to my Phoenix custom. This one may hit deep, plus it’s for a fear of missing out. Would including this in the third cycle be wise? One benefit I see is that Phoenix has been working on other issues continually, so the sexual side may not be as stressful since it won’t be competing as much.

[subliminalguy]

Strange coincidence.

My biggest fear I’ve had about switching to Peace is that I’ve thought I’d be ditching LB.

Seriously, LB has been kicking in, and I’m desiring it more and more.

The reality check for me is… it’s in my Phoenix custom already. So my concern was non-founded.

Good to know. Since I’m craving it.

[subliminalguy]

I just scanned through Heartsong’s sales page, and some of the modules caught my attention. I think I know why I like this, so I’m writing it out.

About 3 years back I ordered a subliminal from a company which has been around many years. This subliminal contained all the main issues needing to be addressed in a relationships. I used the sub for about 2 months.

One issue was stating my needs clearly. Initially, since I always kept my thoughts to myself, I’d get irritated when somebody was doing something that I wished them to stop or change. This probably sounds really strange to people who normally speak up for themselves, but…, I rarely spoke up for myself. And even less than that, I rarely clearly stated what I liked and disliked.

It was a brand new experience saying I like this, or I don’t like that. I did not grow up like that, and I’m rarely around people who are so direct. Suddenly I was speaking up for myself. I regularly wondered if I was being offensive. But I learned that it was okay. That people were perfectly okay accommodating me when I was direct.

In short, it was freeing and personally empowering. Before this, I would normally be irritated, feeling powerless over other people’s actions. And suddenly… I had a voice. That felt like the strangest new thing in my life. And I loved it.

Heartsong addresses this too. How can I ever be in an honest relationship if I’m not sharing my thoughts clearly and directly? I want some of that.

[subliminalguy]

Question from @subliminalguy (original post):

@qOS , I’ve been considering long-term goals, and I’m highly likely to do a third cycle with Phoenix. Post-Phoenix, I’ve seen the suggestions for stacking Peace with Heartsong, and I’m drawn to it since I desire a good relational foundations. On my next cycle I’m considering replacing Ascension with Peace, and I’m wondering how Peace would mix with Phoenix. What might I expect? Additionally, the one module I’ve considered but have not followed through with is adding Aphrodite to my Phoenix custom. This one may hit deep, plus it’s for a fear of missing out. Would including this in the third cycle be wise? One benefit I see is that Phoenix has been working on other issues continually, so the sexual side may not be as stressful since it won’t be competing as much.
Summary

@subliminalguy — yes, PEACE mixes well with Phoenix, and the swap fits where you are heading. Phoenix is a heavy clearing title that brings a lot of material up by design, and PEACE is a settling title. Pairing one heavy clearing title with a settling one is the pattern we recommend. PEACE also pairs naturally with the original Love Bomb already in your Phoenix custom, because it gives that love a whole, unhurried self to grow from.

What you might expect

In the first weeks, the change may show up in how the Phoenix burn feels. Material still surfaces, because that is Phoenix’s work, but your body is less braced when it arrives. As your nervous system relaxes, PEACE tends to let old tension release on its own, and the emotion may run its course instead of being held for weeks. The tight, squeezed feeling you have written about is the kind of grip it works on. Sleep often comes more easily.

A few months in, the scenes may get ordinary in a good way. Your pulse may stay level in a conversation that used to tighten you. You may be in the room with the person in front of you instead of composing your next sentence. Phoenix’s new view of yourself may land on steadier ground, so it has less to fight. Your drive stays. PEACE changes where it comes from, so motivation may run on clarity rather than pressure. People around you may also become calmer and more open, which is co-regulation rather than an aura.

By the end of the cycle you are likely to have the ground Heartsong builds on. Heartsong recommends Attuned with PEACE as a foundation pairing, with PEACE returning you to the unforced self and Attuned carrying that into love.

One thing changes when Ascension leaves. Your Ascension custom carried outward confidence and presence, along with ESSENCE: Human Connection, Wholeness in Connection, Speaking Without Armor and Finding Your Voice. PEACE has no aura or attraction scripting, so that outward side will not come from it. Synergy: Beyond Connection and Love Bomb stay with you in the Phoenix custom.

Aphrodite

Yes, it is a sound addition, and for more than a fear of missing out. Aphrodite is a healing module for sexual trauma and negative sexual beliefs of every kind, including shame and repression, and it helps you embrace who you are sexually. The inadequacy around women you have written about, and locking up in a sexually charged moment, sit squarely in its territory.

Your reasoning holds in part. Phoenix has already cleared a lot of ground, so Aphrodite has less to compete with. Like any healing module, though, it brings reconciliation, and inside a Phoenix custom that arrives alongside Phoenix’s own fire. Running PEACE in the same cycle gives it good support. Your Phoenix custom has room for it under the 20-module cap.

A note on the hard days: PEACE makes it safe to face what Phoenix and Aphrodite bring up, so reconciliation may still come in waves, usually on a more even baseline than before. If it ever becomes overwhelming, ease back and consider professional support alongside.

My recommendation is to make the swap and add Aphrodite for the third cycle, then move to Heartsong: Attuned with PEACE once Phoenix is done. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

[Forexpreneur]

That sounds like an excellent stack. I love the in depth qOS responses. It truly helps to understand how titles interact, especially customs.

[subliminalguy]

I agree. It’s a huge confidence booster when I think back not too long ago. I’d be loaded with fear trying to make decisions about future subs. It was often all or nothing thinking. I feared making mistakes, as I saw even small mistakes as reflections of low value.

I feel like I’m losing some of that shame stronghold. Asking the system for help is a small proof that something is missing–old beliefs that I’m only worthy of punishment. Old roots are being eliminated.

It’s amazing. Sticking with a sub means something will change.

Sidenote: my 4-5 month run with Emperor a few years back was a first for me. I truly miss the mentality I was put into. Ambition. Vision. Constantly knowing what I wanted and needed to do. And…resilience. The belief that “I’ll get through this s***!”

I pulled off because…, owning this now… because I made an Emperor custom with more than I could handle. I looped in failure thinking. I blamed Emperor and pulled off SC subs for some months.

I’d insisted I was right when the truth is that I absolutely would not go near feeling like a failure. I’d feel too small. Too unwanted. I told noone.

But I did feel small and unimportant. I spent months on another vendor’s subs, never touching that core belief. But…
knowing I’d had genuine experiences here at SC is what drew me back.

I feared failure as I considered returning. Yet I knew healing those roots and beliefs was truly necessary. I didn’t think I’d change. Or… maybe I was so terrified of change because I believed if you saw what I saw and believed about myself, you’d never ever want to be near me. <<<<------ THAT is the truth.

Sad. Crying some, on and off.

No one wants to face this sh**. But seeing it and running away is my constant reality otherwise. So I said “F*** it”. Face pain here, or be on constant lookout for it, where I’m expecting it to show wherever I go.

Truth: Emperor put this persistence in me. And the resilience (in Phoenix too) is what kept me at it. Thank you SubClub.

[Forexpreneur]

That’s the thing about inner work if you had a childhood with tons of abuse and neglect. I get it. DRReg and PEACE did a ton to calm my nervous system and somewhere my confidence has stabilized.

PEACE helped quite a bit with that, but there were other subs also that I’m sure added to it. My neglect was different than yours but the effects I think were very similar. I don’t think I overcompensated too much, but I never felt as though I was enough. I didn’t feel worthy.

It’s interesting that you ran Emperor. I’ve changed my trading custom a little and will have the Emperor Reforged core in it. I genuinely didn’t consider the Emperor series for more than one reason but Reforged is such a good fit for me and what I want to work on. It has a ton of wealth focus also which I wasn’t expecting. I only considered it because very recently the Essence version was released and it caught my attention so I looked into the store title and was sold big time for my current wants and needs.

It sounds like to me you’re headed on the right track. It sounds as though you are thinking about running PEACE, and I genuinely hope you do Brother. I’ll gently nudge you to that because just one full round in (30 listening days) I’m loving it.

I’ll tell you, be sure to journal if you decide to run PEACE. You are already doing an awesome job with the journaling but PEACE is so dang subtle for most of it you most likely won’t realize a bunch of stuff is changing. It just seems to take a little, calms it and then integrates it so naturally and easily you miss quite a bit until either someone notices, or something that normally would trigger you all of a sudden doesn’t and you realize it. It helps tremendously with sleep also.

[subliminalguy]

Thank you @Forexpreneur. Your words are meaningful.

I do expect PEACE to be subtle, but at the same time, I look forward to relaxing. I’m tense a lot, and I purposely choose a physically demanding job since I can blow it off–and I’m paid to do it. It’s a win for me.

I just know that I can’t do this forever. Being able to stop… and stay still…is a gift to myself.

I’ll put this out there. Is it me, or do the sales pages pull you in to their reality… and keep you there? For days.

The more I think of the next cycle, the more I’m living there…in my head. Taking on a relaxed mindset NOW. Thinking of how I’ll be if I go to town TODAY.

That’s some powerful copyrighting, I’ll say

[Forexpreneur]

You are very welcome and I’m truly glad I’ve been able to help in some meaningful way.

And no, it’s not just you, the sales copies (sales pages) are damn good. The truth is they are written for different types of mindsets also. I do like the story aspect of the copy but I also need the checklist style also and it has all of that.

But for me, it’s not just the copy, it’s what’s in the dang subs. PTSD is absolutely no joke. Therapy didn’t help that much but these subs did. Saint and Fire are a team. I know Saint has written subs also but Fire is the main genius behind most of the subs. But Saint is incredible with the copywriting portion and also in the forum, qOS, etc. They need each other to make this company work the way it does.

As far as being able to stop and stay still, PEACE should do it, but like I said, it is subtle. It’ll take you a little bit to realize it’s working, but it is and it should really help you to calm down and feel much better with yourself.

Use microloops though. I know it sounds crazy but stick to 30 seconds for a few loops then increase to one minute. My first round I never went past 3 minutes but I dropped it back down because of some recon. The reason why I suggest that with you is that, even though our childhoods were seemingly different, the abandonment and neglect seem to be quite identical. My Mother was never an alcoholic or drug addict, she just wasn’t in my life much and I was shoved away all the time.

Anyway, thank you for your kind words in turn. I do greatly appreciate it. And I’ll keep reading your journal.

[subliminalguy]

Day 40

Day off work. I feel like I’m in another changeover for beliefs and goals.

First off, I took another long nap. Like my body’s been seeking to rest. And my mind is visualizing things I’ve not considered in ages.

Specifically, I woke up remembering feeling like this while I was on Emperor. Sure of what I wanted. Physically relaxed because of that. Imagining possibilities without tons of fear and self doubt.

It was a certainty that I held in both good and bad times that I’d get through it, and win.

I love this mentality. It’s resilience activating, and to me, it’s a life saver. Knowing not only that I’m going to get through this, but finding possibilities continually on how to overcome.

It’s a beautiful gift when I compare to my thinking in prior months and years.

[subliminalguy]

I just remade and purchased my Phoenix rebuild adding Aphrodite. 2 changes.

1. I changed the masked track to Solace since I only use masked, and Solace is less stressful.
2. This one will affect me. I put my whole name in the name field. First, middle, and last. I respond when others call me by it, and noone else has it. I’ll just have to lessen my loop time initially since it may shock me at first.

I’d gone to the Qos thread, and @Parsifal asked about full name embeds. I saw his question, and I saw the response. It’ll hit users, and it’s been untested so far. So I’m not alone here.

Days back, I’d read @Michel’s post of how using his full name was definitely stronger. I’ll keep my eyes on his journal in case he posts of new effects.

[subliminalguy]

Day 41

I usually don’t mess around with my listening time, and 2 minutes has worked well for me.

I decided to do 3 minutes this morning, hoping I’d feel it longer. I’m actually feeling a little more powerless. Like more emotion is backed up. It’s not painful, it’s not terrible, it’s more uncomfortable.

A sad truth I’ll admit to myself: I’ve thought the more pain I feel, the more I’m healing.

And I felt this many many times in years past. I’ve not felt at a ton in last few years since doing microloops.

And this is not something I’d recommend someone else.

Connected here: I paid for a program today which I’ve been looking at for a couple days. It’s aimed at raising your confidence around people by changing the words you use. Eliminating some words. The common immediate verbal reactions.

I did a few exercises an hour ago, and I feel a little more capable and confident. Connecting to Phoenix here, Phoenix pulled me back. So I wouldn’t recommend doing longer loops to other people

[subliminalguy]

I’m feeling part of the growth.

I worked at the same site that I’ve been in for a few months on Sundays, and I barely did anything. Reason? It was raining the entire day. I was out of the truck maybe 15 minutes all day. Those are small positives I can hang on to.

But driving back from the work site to the site where my car was, I felt very unsafe since nothing has changed in regards to the headlights on this vehicle. Again, I’m in cow country with no overhead lights anywhere, and the paved roads haven’t been striped in 10 years. Pair that with really poor headlights and having to drive in the dark since daylight savings just switched, and I got mad. At myself first. And like weeks ago, I realized the door was open for me to pull out of this position if I needed to.

I thought before I acted. I thought of my approach. I thought of how I did not want to apologize before being firm. I didn’t want to apologize for making my claim.

So I texted the man who I’ve been working under during this whole gig. I told him this was the last weekend I would drive that vehicle. I did not feel safe in it and I was unwilling to risk my life again. I let him know that if I came back next weekend and that was the only vehicle, that I would return home.

It was clear, but I was scared. The truth is that I feared being abandoned. That’s where the root is, and that’s where the fear is.

It was like sitting in adult shoes, remembering the childhood wounds.

He responded maybe 30 minutes later, saying he would down the truck this week to fix it.

I’m crying because I did not expect that. I did not expect kindness. I did not expect action. I expected lots of excuses and dismissals, with blame pointed back at me. I expect to be blamed for making somebody else uncomfortable.

That didn’t happen. And I’m crying in my car now, remembering those old expectations and old norms from back home.

3 minutes did affect me.

[SaintSovereign]

@Forexpreneur

I know Saint has written subs also but Fire is the main genius behind most of the subs.

Not necessarily. We work as a team, everything is 50/50 developed. But, we have a lead who makes the final call, but we both contribute. For example, I lead and wrote Wanted: Dream Boy, LBfH, PEACE, Heartsong, Renaissance Man, Genesis: Ascension, Limitless: ZONE, Limitless: Polyglot, REFORGED, HERO: The Light that Blinds, etc. Those are all my brainchild. We just don’t advertise this much, because we see it as a team effort, regardless of the lead.

[Forexpreneur]

@SaintSovereign Thank you very much for clarifying that Saint. I didn’t realize that you were the lead on PEACE. PEACE absolutely is my favorite title hands down and DRReg is a close second. I’ve said before that PEACE should have been named MasterPEACE. I can’t say enough praises about it.

REFORGED may give them a run for the money soon.

[subliminalguy]

Day 43

I received my updated Phoenix custom (adding Aphrodite) yesterday, and I listened for 1 minute this morning.

It has my full name (first, middle, last), so that’s my main reason for being cautious. @Michel said his full name custom hit stronger, so I’m wary. Nothing hitting so far (20 minutes ago).

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But the prior version was kicking in, and has been, for a few days. I’m realizing that scripting is integrating. I’m also aware that (for my lifetime) I’ve been trying to evade such awareness.

I’m talking about beautiful stuff. Stuff like “this is me”. And since I’ve always tried to be someone else (constantly trying not to look inside myself), it’s not been easy.

However…I woke up this morning…allowing changes and awarenesses to come and go…and I’m feeling more at peace with myself. I think it’s more about accepting me, as I am, at any given moment.

I made some homemade subliminals years back, some of my very first. Loving and valuing myself was smooth. Yet as soon as I put in “completely accepting” of myself, I had major recon. It went from beautiful…to nightmarish. I couldn’t accept myself.

So this…this is me letting go of this old standard. Makes me teary. It’s probably LB. And it’s working.

[subliminalguy]

What’s happening?

Love Bomb and Phoenix are showing how they’ve been peeling off old norms I held on to tightly.

I took off work today, and I just went out and voted. I’m actually still figuring out what I felt while there, because 2 years back I voted in the 2024 election at the same location. What was different then is that I was on Emperor at the time. I’d been on it for months at the time.

While standing in line today, I remembered how I felt like an attention magnet while on Emperor, and I regularly avoided people’s eyes–because I haven’t valued myself like others have. And I wasn’t doing so while on Emperor.

And why I’m still not clear on what happened today, it’s because I felt not so guarded, not having spiked shields up to keep everyone away. That had been my norm all of my life, wearing different masks for each crowd. I was no chatterbug today, but my old shields, which I could feel, held a sadness waiting to be spilled. And…I didn’t want to live behind these shields anymore!

In an imagined setting, I’d be crying and seeking forgiveness from others since these walls were held up to everybody. Lately I’ve been desiring real, authentic relationships. The emotional shields are reminders that at one time, I was SAFE. …but I was incredibly lonely.

Trying to be clear here.

Before: walls up. Shields up. Focus was continually directed to the task at hand. Noone got close.

Today: walls falling. Thinking of people differently, like they’re human and vulnerable too. Like how I would enjoy just being around people. Not flashy. Honest relationships about real needs, real life, and if I connect with someone…then WOW.

And that last paragraph is what I need. Desire…while working through my still existent “NO!!'s” and old beliefs.

I’ll end this with a non-stressful exchange I had. A beautiful young woman was walking out of the building, and in my head I was reminded to look her in the eyes. I did…and then I looked away because dang…what would I do if she actually opened up? I thought that. I did this because I wanted to know where I was. I’m not shielded up, but I’m not completely accepting of myself either

But Love Bomb and Phoenix have definitely been throwing my old head trash out.

[subliminalguy]

I’m owning something here.

@subliminalguy

In an imagined setting, I’d be crying and seeking forgiveness from others since these walls were held up to everybody. Lately I’ve been desiring real, authentic relationships. The emotional shields are reminders that at one time, I was SAFE. …but I was incredibly lonely.

Even before I wrote this, I realized that…I’ve needed forgiveness from myself. I painted it like I’m seeking everyone else’s forgiveness…

when I’m really seeking my own.

[subliminalguy]

Day 44

Something is happening, and I didn’t expect this.

First off, the full name embed seems to be allowing integration in a very pronounced way. I woke up from a nap half an hour ago, and from what’s brewing within, I’m wanting more.

Bravery. Acceptance of truth in my life (a constant one). And not seeking to muck up every emotional victory. It’s beautiful.

I’ve been home all day, but I woke up and gave deliberate thought to going out. 8 years back I walked regularly in my neighborhood, daily even. But in recent years, I’m out maybe once a month. It’d give me time to think and feel, plus I was doing something that was against my caged norm: I was putting myself out there. Feeling worthy of attention <<—and that’s a clear sign for me. I used to walk to validate to myself that I was worthy of attention.

I guess I’m in between two choices. One is hiding in my room, constantly seeking things to interest me. And more directly, to hide from possible rejection.

The other choice is to put myself around people so I can learn and grow, exposing myself to things I’ve avoided a lot. I.E. relationships.

Both are scary. And both are attractive, for various reasons. I’m finding something I can actually live with.

—At the end of the day, full name embedding is making one hell of a difference in me.

[subliminalguy]

I’m jonesing.

I listened to my Ascension custom this morning, and it affected me most of my day. Updated LB/Phoenix custom yesterday.

An inner drive came up today.
I literally felt like I should be around people.
I felt stronger.
And slowly… continuously… I’m feeling like Love Bomb is coming through. And this is what I’m jonesing about. Yes. No. Yes. No.

I’m in my lifelong habit of feeling…then rejecting love for myself. Like I had to earn it. That I’m just not worthy of it. This has been a major source of anxiety for me, which is exactly why I’ve avoided it so much.

I got all wrapped up in wondering about “other subs which might help me”, an old reaction of mine to jump off a sub due to the anxiety.

I’m kind of embarrassed now, cuz I’m seeing it. I went looking at PEACE. Considering whether I should mix it with Ascension, to stack with my Phoenix custom next cycle.

But damn. I’m seeing it. I run from Love, because love always meant I had to earn it. I’ve always felt unworthy and incapable of doing that. I’d try to run away and close my eyes, so eventually I would forget about it. Distraction. Nothing else. Just keep it out of my thoughts.

That is the reason I’m still struggling after over 10 years on subliminals. I’ve been here eight years, and I jumped from sub to sub. Why? I would regularly be reminded of love…and love has scared the s*** out of me.

I believed that I had to earn love. That I was not worthy of even feeling it. So, essentially, I’ve had a very loose grip on anything love related, because it might be pulled from me at any moment. No girlfriends. None at all. Cuz I’d see a beauty, and freak internally knowing I’d be in my own way instantly… so I’ve always backed out first. I never let anybody in.

Related here. Yesterday I was at the voting booth remembering being on Emperor, because Emperor draws a lot of attention via its aura. And in my mind, the self-love I’m feeling does not mix at all with the walls I held up with Emperor. Emperor was not the problem. My beliefs about love were the problem.

PEACE may help. But poor love beliefs are the root.

That’s my problem. That’s why I’m here. F****** terrified, but that’s where I’m at. Tears now.