State of SubClub and 2019 Roadmap

Why? I only have a dedicated corner with a pullup/dip/pushup machine, a WaterRower, a kettlebell rack, suspension trainer and a yoga mat, with a place for incense and a few drawers with knick-knacks and small devices. :slight_smile:

I actually have a track that uses a sort of brainwave entrainment effect to get you into the zone and keep you there. One for cardio and one for resistance (and one for recovery/stretching). That thing really works, I can go for hours while completely losing track of time…
They even had classical versions at the time.

Part of it is BPM. We all know when running, driving or even lifting that certain rhythms are just right to make you fall in line (or press the accelerator pedal).

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Even though i get this is an exageration it is very hard to distinguise the difference between the Khan and Emperor. I dont even see a clear difference between Emperor and Khan. It seems both have the tedency to manifest wealth while they both improve your sexual experience whether it is talking to women or actually having sex with them. I get that Khan is a bit more sex heavy and Emperor business heavy but the difference isnt that clear

If it is an issue receiving 10 emails per day with this question then you should actually have faq answering this question clearly. It will save time from both consumer and yourself

For example with Spartan your description page is very broad. Also you never clearly answer what is the difference between normal version and X version. Your answer that each version is different isnt really an answer. Why is different? How is different? How you expect to impact my life the normal version comparing to x? Try and see isnt really an answer from the people who actually build the product

I strongly disagree to release each stage seperately. There is a reason you build it that way and i think as a business you will have big issue from people that they thought they can handle stage 4 only. Just my 2 cents even though i dislike the idea to run a subliminal 3 months in order to reach the final ‘‘goal’’ to run stage 4 there is a reason why you name something stage 1-2-3

Finally people should understand that you are a business. If people dont like the prices or where you are heading they can always pirate subliminals or they can move elsewhere. I personally got offered Khan for free. Then i looked your page and i was like fuck man it is only 100$ for a subliminal that covers my needs when i bought a 200$ subliminal which didnt. Then i saw your other prizes of 40$ and i was sure i will support them with my buck. You cant have everyone happy. I mean what is the purpose even answering to why you release a four stage ultimate artist? Because this is what you think is the best for you. Does anyone really thinks that you are going to release something you dont expect to sell?

At this moment your shop is full. Even if you stop producing subliminals you have enough to cover everything even partially. There isnt anything missing to have a better life and if people dont like the newer subs like four stage emperor then use spartan. Yes there will be people saying but this is better blah blah blah but guess what? If you use spartan and work your ass off you will see results. Spartan is an example of course

I personally stop using competitor’s subliminals for three reasons

  1. Forum was negative after a while. You read reports full of negativity and people constantly complaining
  2. He is selling a product as an expirement with free upgrades and then he wrote some update in the future might be paid if the models suggest it. GTFO
  3. I think it is a joke to release a subliminal and after a week to offer an upgrade. I remember he released uslm and after 3 days or so he upgraded it. I mean wtf dude. That shows irresponsibility and something isnt properly built if you can upgrade it in three days after a month plus of research and building

I love that you can allow us to stack the programs, i love your library(i am familiar only with two sites, the only negative is you have too many good things, for example i want to listen khan+sex mastery+game mastery+limitless+spartan+muay thai x because everything will help me with my life, of course i dont do that and i am running only khan+sex mastery+superchargers) i dont like that you suggest to freely expirement with stages and i dont like the support. I personally find irritating that i sent an email and you take 4 days+ to respond. Also you said you will get back to me after alchemist’s release which you didnt

Of course everything in life has positive and negative. I think the positive you offer are much greater than the negative. Actually the negative have nothing to do with the quality of your subliminals which is obvious they are working. I would never expect to see so many positive journals in any business area (not only subliminals)

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Something like the Battlestar drums is great for hard workout.

A Ultrasonic version would be great though. I suspect many would want to listen to their usual training music.

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The drums in legacy are the most amazing music track to prepare for a gym session imo. Ultrasonics shouldnt be used with headphones anyway

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True. Legacy is great.

I train at home, so normally without headphones & if necessary several audio sources.

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The reason why it’s hard to see a difference is because the two titles have overlapping goals. The obvious difference between the two is the fact that one is a four stager, which gives you much more latitude over your subliminal experience, and the other is a broad spectrum single stage. The sales pages, however, go into great detail about what’s in Emperor (even listing the modules) and what’s in Khan.

When people ask “what’s the difference,” what they’re really saying is, “which one should I get?” That’s a question I can’t answer – it depends on your unique needs. But, it’s very unfair to claim that the sales pages are confusing. Seriously, read them side by side – the descriptions are nothing alike and both go into a good amount of details about what to expect.

That being said, we’ll look into how we can clarify the differences more. A lot of the issues we’re encountering right now is spawning from the fact that we just need to improve our subliminal / mental alchemy onboarding. I’m working on that funnel now. We began with the “Subliminals That Work” eBook, but I’m also writing more support articles and implementing an automated drip email campaign that will explain a lot of the basic concepts that we just assumed everyone knew.

Spartan New Dawn X was an experimental subliminal. When using an experimental, there’s the element of the unknown. We can’t tell you what the differences are, because that would ruin the data by opening us up to placebo and the such. For those who want stable results without dealing with the unknowns, run the core program. But, to your point, since people couldn’t seem to grasp this, we stopped including experimentals with programs and began on-site and offsite private testing.

In the future, when we upgrade programs, we’ll probably remove the old versions. For example: We keep getting questions about which version of Emperor is better, v2 or v3. People, there’s a version number included. Clearly, v3 is the latest and greatest. We didn’t remove v2 because we didn’t believe in taking away something someone had purchased, but since this is becoming a big enough issue that people are sending us angry emails, we’ll consider removing it.

Here’s the thing, a lot of the choices we made, we did it because we wanted to give our users the choice to do things the way they want. When we developed our four stage technology, we spent weeks deliberating on how we could improve the subliminal experience. We realized that everyone is different, and our sensibilities aren’t yours. So, we came up with the idea of four distinct subliminals with a common goal, but could be run in whatever order the user wanted, depending on THEIR needs.

Now, suddenly we’re getting backlash because we wanted to give you the ability to shape your own experience? Part of the issue is the fact that many of the people here came from another subliminal producer, and they want us to follow that producer’s leads, just offer cheaper prices. That’s not going to happen – we have a distinct vision for how we want to leave our mark, and that vision revolves around consumer choice.

Yes, support was definitely our weak spot, but we’ve made some moves to resolve that. Up until a month or two ago, it was literally just @Fire and myself running everything. We recently hired a support agent who spends a significant amount of time each day answering chats and responding to emails. We now have a turnaround time of less than 24 hours during the week, two days on the weekend.

@DarkPhilosopher is also doing a phenomenal job as forum ambassador, providing support answers when he can and escalating it to us when he can’t. There’s also the Subliminals That Work eBook – which will be added to the support library for download soon – that answers a lot of basic support issues.

We’re also going to do some more expansion in January, so rest assured, you won’t have an issue with support in the future.

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I think it would be great to have a supercharger specifically to set intentions for manifesting, to imagine what we want, and charge it with energy like @DarkPhilosopher talked about.

Something sweet and that can boost the subconscious manifestation through conscious intention.

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I think an update to Regeneration would be welcome. I have been running it in a stack since it dropped and full time, except for having Ultimate Artist running in my art studio, since the beginning of June. I plan to just keep it running until I feel like hang-ups, and insecurities have pretty much run their course. But until then it just plays all the time.

Going back to fundamentals. Starting with a clean slate.

Could also be interesting to create a total breakdown style sub with the theme of emotional that might be run before or alongside Regeneration.

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There’s no point releasing a four stage Ultimate Artist, I feel the one stage is doing a great job overall in my creative practice. What realistically can be added to it, that it doesn’t contain already? Do I need to be broken down in order to paint?

The fact that Sub Club were selling this in the first place got them a sale from me.

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I think that just upgrading Regeneration to New Dawn is not enough now: Khan, EOG and Alchemist already have more advanced healing potential.

So, it will be interesting to see Regeneration V2 with all this newest updates and understandings. Maybe it will even be named not V2 but Regeneration II, like Sex Mastery X2.

Or…multistage one. Just think about it: ST1 Body, ST2 Mind, ST3 Emotions, ST4 all together.

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Some of my relatives ruined their lives and their families’ lives because they were addicted to gambling. My feelings are particularly strong against gambling in casinos or the lottery or horse racing. While it’s really @SaintSovereign and @Fire’s choice to develop such a product, I really hope they don’t. Develop cool products, not uncool ones.

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Of course the challenge could be how to create a sub that makes a person great at certain games that require mostly skill and less chance, while making the listener consider it only as a means to an end and not get addicted.

I’m pretty sure most of those competitive poker players aren’t addicted. But you wouldn’t make a roulette sub or a one-armed bandit sub.

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I agree.

I think Quantum Limitless 4 stages would be enough. There will be a stage for extreme creativity, I expect. That will be what most people want from Ultimate Artist. Otherwise, it’s a very niche offering.

So something like Quantum Creativity as Quantum Limitless Stage 3 would be great.

It doesn’t have to be a progressive four-stage, it could be branching. There are so many different paths one can take as an artist that it could be a waste to try and cram them all in one stage.

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Quantum Limitless is the one I am keen to see them release asap. Can SC release a description of what to expect in each stage ?.

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@Shogun Subliminals do not make you do things against your own will. If people get addicted to something that is the choice they made nothing to do with the subliminal products.

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My understanding, at the moment Quantum Limitless is a customized sub created specifically for @SaintSovereign to turbocharge his learning and creativity, and that it pushes things to the limit more than Limitless.

So it’s only used by one person in the world right now :smiley:

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All I’m saying is, the availability of a gambling sub will encourage gamblers to buy the sub, and gamble more because they feel their luck is now better than the casino’s. It’s the same as an introvert wanting to buy Khan to solve his lack of ability to attract women.

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Shogun Bro its someones choice whether they decide to buy the subliminal products or not. I like to think we are all grown adults who are capable of making responsible decisions.

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Agreed, You still have the ability to be responsible. If not don’t buy the sub. That’s all.

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