I don’t see it. Maybe it’s because I’m still a new member.
Hmm that’s weird
Lol,just had this conversation with budewr the other day
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Thank you for this. The rest of that post is good information too. Cheers.
Since your new,should do a quick scroll through this thread.Lots of info that i wish i had starting out
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Awesome, thank you again.
Unusual though it may be, that’s a good stack.
BTW, the “Journals - Major Programs” is where this thread belongs. Move if you’re allowed to, or you can ask a mod.
Looking forward to reading your experiences. 
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Do you have a better stack suggestion for my goals?
Hmmm, reading more today. Seems there is a lot of anti-porn in these subs. I’m not into that. I delved deep into anti-porn and yourbrainonporn years ago and I concluded that it was a falsehood.
Needless to say I don’t want to run subs with that in their programming. I know paragon has it but do any of the other subs I picked (Primal Seduction and Executive) have anti-porn scripting?
I was never convinced about that either.
I thought Ascended Mogul or Emperor
were said to “help” with these issues
or more specifically the Q store module.
But regardless as the subs are not authoritarian
foisting moral frameworks or ideologies
this should not be a problem.
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Glad I’m not the only one. It was all the rage back in the day and I tried it, went no fap and no porn for 51 days. Things were worse so I went back to my old habits and I’d say I turned out just fine.
As for the subs, I hope that is true. I really want to use these but if they make strong antiporn statements I know I’ll be resisting
Hello @SargeMaximus,
I noticed you mentioning something similar in regards to extraversion.
Here at Subliminal Club we don’t force upon you any viewpoint - our subliminals work with you. Instead of forcing you into a mold, the subliminals guide you towards becoming your ideal man, whatever that might mean for you (while also helping you break through any limitations or negative beliefs you might have).
In essence, if you run Primal Seduction, you won’t be pushed to become an extroverted must-meet-everyone-monster. If that is against your nature, then it’s much more effective to work with your nature, isn’t it?
But you must still take action. You know what you must improve, so you try to take action towards improving those aspects you know of. As you do so, you find out new things to improve upon, so you improve them as well. And so you keep listening and taking action, and eventually you realize - you are where you want to be, so now it’s time for the next goal.
For your case specifically, this would mean you would be working on how to meet women naturally, and learning how to connect with those women that approach you. Primal Seduction will push, guide and support your efforts and development, manifest situations and opportunities and of course, teach you.
Finally, there is something we call conscious guidance. You have a degree of control over how you drive a subliminal by focusing your action taking. For example, Khan can be an excellent subliminal for someone desiring wealth, simply because the drive and dominance Khan creates can be used for wealth. Another example would be Limitless - which could be used for romantic purposes by helping you learn faster.
All this applies to anti-porn as well. Our subliminals don’t contain direct anti-porn scripting, but there were many cases where individuals who were addicted to porn have stopped use, simply because someone running Emperor realizes that their time can be better spent. Similarly, someone running Khan wouldn’t be satisfied with porn.
You have freedom in how and where you take your development. Just remember to take action, be open to new opportunities and knowledge, and be wise in your listening.
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This is great news, thank you 
This also sounds amazing.
Thank you for addressing this. I’m fine with that as I myself sometimes go stretches without porn simply because I’m too busy. But as a recreational drug, I could do worse. So yeah, I’m glad to hear that.
For sure, and thank you again. I really appreciate the thorough explanation and it has solidified my choices that I had initially.
In other news, just got back from doing some Lead Gen. Door to door, of course.
A few things I cannot WAIT for these subs to help me with:
- I notice I have “mental shaking” I think it’s called. I think it’s Primal Seduction which is supposed to help with this. I definitely have it. When I was in my flow today, as I left some houses I would say “Yeah have a way!” just a garble of who knows what I’m saying, but I think I was trying to say “Have a good one” and “have a good day” but it just sort of mashed together.
This happens to me a lot, and while it doesn’t hinder me from getting leads (I hit my par sort of, I’ll address that in the next point), it does just feel off and I wish I was more “together”.
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Like I said, I hit my par, but I only worked for an hour. Made $100 like clockwork then fvcked off early. I do this WAY too much. There are a bunch of hang ups and superstitions causing this but suffice to say I want it handled, hence why I’ll be running Executive. Can’t wait.
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Finally, the last lead I got was from a couple who were outdoors. The husband immediately gave me the cold shoulder and said he wasn’t interested but the wife clearly was. I got the lead from her as the husband continued to give me a noticeable cold shoulder. Even after I got the lead from his wife and was leaving I said “See you later!” to him and he just grunted.
I can think of how subliminals could help me get revenge 
Anyhow, tonight I’m seeing my 50 year old fwb. I have lost all my others to either covid quarantine or the 22 year old one her parents don’t want her out at night with a guy they don’t know. I’m not meeting anyone’s parents, so fvck that.
Time for manifesting.
I also had several online convos with new girls that went nowhere.
Anyhow, I’m looking forward to using these subs. I feel I’m already pretty alpha and attractive but the next level would be epic. I can only imagine. Stay tuned.
Quick update:
Got my subs. I’ll start listening to them tomorrow morning. 1 Loop of PS and 1 Loop of Paragon. It’s supposed to rain so I doubt I’ll be working.
I’ll try alternating Paragon and Executive while listening to PS every day for 5 days then take 2 days off. Of course, this may change as I see how I’m reacting.
ION spent the night with the 50 year old. Already getting bored of her. It’s the age and also I’m feeling a bit weird lately. Like I’m in a funk.
Anyhow, we’ll see how things go on these new subs. I took a full week off subs of any kind. I hope that’s not too soon to start these ones.
Online interaction today:
me: Hey trouble
her: (she obviously read my profile) What is your definition of ethical non monogamy?
me: The same one as in google
her: So a really deep seated belief system then Lol 
I blocked her immediately
So I just finished my loop of Paragon. Another member told me that Paragon could knock people out so I decided whenever I use Paragon I’ll use it at night and use Primal Seduction and Executive in the morning. Although I will be staggering Paragon and Executive. This means that tomorrow I will only be running Primal Seduction in the morning for 1 loop and nothing at night. Then Friday I will run Executive and Primal Seduction in the morning. Then Saturday I will run Primal Seduction in the morning and Paragon at night. I’ll see how that works. May get difficult to space it properly.
Anyhow, as for my usage, I used headphones which I hope is ok. I think Paragon is a masked track as I heard the water running sounds.
Also, I had it very low volume: 20% on VLC.
I started to get a slight headache but then felt rather soothed.
I’m using it for a number of physical ailments that will be easy to see if there is improvement. I already eat VERY healthy. Here’s what I ate yesterday to give you my daily diet:
Breakfast: 5 eggs, scrambled with Siracha powder
2 pieces of multigrain bread each with organic peanut butter (no sugar or nothing, just peanuts)
Lunch: 2 cups white pasta, about 8 squid rings (not breaded, just squid), 6 shrimp, 8-12 brussel sprouts, 4 broccoli, coconut oil, parmesan cheese, 2 pieces of multigrain bread
Dinner smoothie: 1 cup organic kefir, 1 cup blueberries (will be switching to organic once this bag is used), 1/2 cup pomegranate and blueberry juice mix, 4 pineapple chunks, 1 3/4 scoops egg white protein, 1/3 cup steel cut oats, 1/4 cup avocado
I also had 3 cups of tea throughout the day with honey. Green tea and chamomile tea for bed.
My diet is designed from many years of trial and error for reducing inflammation and boosting testosterone as well as hindering the bodies natural tendency to transform testosterone into estrogen. That last bit has been a game changer for my libido.
Despite all that, I STILL have numerous issues that I live with every day and I hope Paragon can give me the healing I need.
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Had a dream last night I was at the doctor’s for an issue I have. They prescribed me a pill I would have to take every 2 days for the rest of my life. Very interesting.
Now I will start Primal Seduction.
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Haha,have fun.Primal seduction is pretty fun.Interactions become a lot more sexual without being intentional.Libido goes up alot though.Wouldnt want to be running if no oppurtunities to handle it,lol.Might not show up that fast though but who knows with qv2
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I still have my one fwb. And maybe some others will contact me. I’ve read some old flames contact people on these subs.
I’ll have to make them go through the ringer tho. I don’t take kindly to being “left”. One girl in particular who I was fvcking made plans with me twice in a row and both times she had to cancel for one reason or another. I ghosted her.
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