SargeMaximus: Next Level (Primal Seduction + Executive + Paragon)

Hey guys, long intro incoming. I hope everyone is doing well.

It’s good to see some of the familiar names and users from times past.

For those of you who don’t know me: I hope to get to know you all and I appreciate the help and insight from those who have already extended help to me in picking my subs for my next subliminal trek.

A little about me and my journey through life so far:

Woke up one night when I was 24 and thought to myself “what the fvck am I doing with my life?!”. Began to research self-help and self-development. Got into PUA. Began approaching women and going to the gym regularly.

Also became increasingly dissatisfied with my work. At the time, I had a nice, stable job. Working for my Uncle’s construction company. But I couldn’t do it. I didn’t fit in with the construction types, and I HATED the work. I also hated myself for just going through the motions.

I took off my tool belt and walked off the job one day when I had finally had enough. Never came back.

Became a door-to-door salesman for the next 2 years.

Despite my introversion and dislike for almost all people, I found I was naturally good at sales. Eventually, I went into door-to-door lead generation which was even easier than sales, and allowed me to make $100 an hour for about 3 hours every day so long as I put in the time necessary. Unfortunately, my predisposition to laziness has always been an issue and is one of the things I hope to fix with my sub stack.

Also, at this time in my story I was also still a virgin. By this time I had found subliminals from the company that will not be named, and to avoid advertising, I will not say anything about the subliminals themselves,

I continued to go to the gym and approach women. I was getting quite good at approaching in that I didn’t have much approach anxiety anymore but it was becoming clear to me that my obstacles to losing my virginity were in my verbal skills rather than my emotional state.

By the time I was 28 I had approached hundreds of women and gotten many, many numbers, but only 2 dates. It was clear that I wasn’t being effective. I also suspected that sex itself was such a daunting thing, perhaps I was sabotaging myself.

I had decided I would NOT be a 30 year old virgin so, on my 29th birthday, I got myself a hooker and finally lost my virginity.

It was by far the worst experience I had ever had. I was almost turned off of sex entirely because of it. But I was mature enough to see it as it was: the hooker had a job to do and she was just going through the motions. So I told myself real sex could and would be better. I never fvcked a hooker again.

After that it seemed much easier to get sex anyways. I can’t even remember my first legit sex from a non-hooker, only that it all started online. Online dating became something I seemed to be able to do. I had become jaded with PUA after trying for years to make it work. Thus, I began to do what I did in sales: just be genuine and make my goal the outcome. I approached online dating the same way: either we were gonna fvck or I wasn’t interested. I got very clear on who I was and what I wanted and began to get laid regularly.

I’ve had some crazy experiences, including a first date that turned into 2 hour drunk car sex (the only time in my life I’ve ever been drunk btw) which later that week got me invited to stay with the girl and her husband (yes, she was married and in an open relationship) and I then monopolized the wife for myself. She was always servicing me but the husband I think got jealous and fights broke out between them two at home and after I got her pregnant and she got an abortion (we both didn’t want kids from our sex. She already had 4, 2 from a previous marriage), she hinted I had to find another place to stay. I left that night to return home (I was living in another province with her. I returned to my home which was an 11 hour drive away).

ANYHOW, suffice to say I’ve had a lot of sex, sexual encounters, women, etc. BUT, I’ve noticed I don’t often get the HOT girls. However, before PUA and subs, HOT girls would approach me quite frequently and I never got laid in those days. So again: it was obvious my verbals were terrible and any initial attraction that was there from my good looks, would evaporate after I opened my mouth.

I had hoped PUA would solve this, but it made things worse as women stopped approaching me and those occurrences didn’t return till I had stopped doing PUA and started being more “myself” again.

Last time I was approached was a few years ago at a party. A group of giggling girls came over to my table and the hottest one said she liked my food plate I had in front of me

“oh. ok?” I said. They all giggled and left.

“Dude.” a guy sitting next to me said “She is TOTALLY into you.”

“So? What can I do?” I said.

As always: I was completely unaware of how to turn that into sex with that girl.

At this point I want to mention also that I had a full time girlfriend. We met in september 2019 and broke up exactly one year later. We then tried to make it work, and stayed together another 2 months, but it was clear it wasn’t working, so we ended it october 2020.

I keep track of sex in my phone and my GF and I had sex over 250 times during our time together. In february of 2020 we had sex 48 times in those 28 days.

When we moved in together, everything changed. Sex ended abruptly and was rare. I had options to cheat but never did. My GF and I had planned to bring another girl into our sex life but once moved in, she got cold feet. Fun fact: after we broke up I was fvcking the girl me and my gf had wanted. But she got flaky and I stopped messaging her a few weeks ago.

SO, what am I looking for and what subs do I plan to run?

Well, for seduction (i.e. getting those hotties who apparently like me sometimes) I’m planning to use Primal Seduction. I’ve been told it will manifest more girls I like as well. Can always use more of that.

For work and overcoming my laziness: Executive.

And for healing my body (I had my appendix removed in February this year): Paragon.

So there’s my stack:

PS+Executive+Paragon.

I have to wait till wednesday night before I begin so that gives me time to change the subs if need be but as it looks now: those are what I will be running.

Thank you all again for your help and warm welcomes. I look forward to sharing my journey with you all.

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Let the journey begin !! :slight_smile:

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ayyy ma man.

i’m really glad to see that you finally found the stack you wanted to try but remember something: don’t be discouraged by the stack if you didn’t see anything happening within the first day or week, they ain’t magic.
but at the same time: expect the unexpected to happen :wink:

good luck and will be following this journal :grin:

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Thank you Invictus. The forum says I’ve reached my maximum likes for the day otherwise I’d give you one!

I understand. Hopefully I don’t have to wait too long, but truth be told I could use a breather to reset from all that has happened. Writing all that and realizing it doesn’t even scratch the surface of what I’ve been through these last few years, has me feeling quite exhausted.

Anyhow, glad you’re with me.

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my man don’t worry about that :grin:

yea its good to take a breather before taking a big step, but my man If you ever need someone to talk to, then im all ears :hugs:

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I appreciate that brother. I seem to remember you from the “before time” as well. I’m glad you’re with me, and I’ll definitely send to a PM if I need to. Cheers.

BTW, how do I send PMs?

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once you click on my profile pic, there should be a message button.

I don’t see it. Maybe it’s because I’m still a new member.

Hmm that’s weird

Yeah see:

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Lol,just had this conversation with budewr the other day

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Thank you for this. The rest of that post is good information too. Cheers.

Since your new,should do a quick scroll through this thread.Lots of info that i wish i had starting out

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Awesome, thank you again.

Unusual though it may be, that’s a good stack.

BTW, the “Journals - Major Programs” is where this thread belongs. Move if you’re allowed to, or you can ask a mod.

Looking forward to reading your experiences. :+1:t2:

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Do you have a better stack suggestion for my goals?

Hmmm, reading more today. Seems there is a lot of anti-porn in these subs. I’m not into that. I delved deep into anti-porn and yourbrainonporn years ago and I concluded that it was a falsehood.

Needless to say I don’t want to run subs with that in their programming. I know paragon has it but do any of the other subs I picked (Primal Seduction and Executive) have anti-porn scripting?

I was never convinced about that either.

I thought Ascended Mogul or Emperor
were said to “help” with these issues
or more specifically the Q store module.

But regardless as the subs are not authoritarian
foisting moral frameworks or ideologies
this should not be a problem.

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Glad I’m not the only one. It was all the rage back in the day and I tried it, went no fap and no porn for 51 days. Things were worse so I went back to my old habits and I’d say I turned out just fine.

As for the subs, I hope that is true. I really want to use these but if they make strong antiporn statements I know I’ll be resisting

Hello @SargeMaximus,

I noticed you mentioning something similar in regards to extraversion.

Here at Subliminal Club we don’t force upon you any viewpoint - our subliminals work with you. Instead of forcing you into a mold, the subliminals guide you towards becoming your ideal man, whatever that might mean for you (while also helping you break through any limitations or negative beliefs you might have).

In essence, if you run Primal Seduction, you won’t be pushed to become an extroverted must-meet-everyone-monster. If that is against your nature, then it’s much more effective to work with your nature, isn’t it?

But you must still take action. You know what you must improve, so you try to take action towards improving those aspects you know of. As you do so, you find out new things to improve upon, so you improve them as well. And so you keep listening and taking action, and eventually you realize - you are where you want to be, so now it’s time for the next goal.

For your case specifically, this would mean you would be working on how to meet women naturally, and learning how to connect with those women that approach you. Primal Seduction will push, guide and support your efforts and development, manifest situations and opportunities and of course, teach you.

Finally, there is something we call conscious guidance. You have a degree of control over how you drive a subliminal by focusing your action taking. For example, Khan can be an excellent subliminal for someone desiring wealth, simply because the drive and dominance Khan creates can be used for wealth. Another example would be Limitless - which could be used for romantic purposes by helping you learn faster.

All this applies to anti-porn as well. Our subliminals don’t contain direct anti-porn scripting, but there were many cases where individuals who were addicted to porn have stopped use, simply because someone running Emperor realizes that their time can be better spent. Similarly, someone running Khan wouldn’t be satisfied with porn.

You have freedom in how and where you take your development. Just remember to take action, be open to new opportunities and knowledge, and be wise in your listening.

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