I would like to have that sudden change.
Please could you elaborate on this idea .
Thanks
@pacman was saying the same thing in a different way.
An example of this is suppose you are earning 3000 dollars per month. And after a while you earn 5000 dollars. At first the extra 2000 makes you feel real good. But then after a while you get used to it (and used to that reality) and it doesn’t feel as much as before.
Same thing with the subs.
I’m guessing @Lion did this with intention and probably a bit of consulting before he did this. Also please keep in mind @Lion seems to know what he’s doing with his 10 or 11 or 1000 cores. If he didn’t, it probably would have shown up by now. Please keep in mind that staying within the recommendations is the safest and likely most effective way to go.
What is your listening schedule for the next 10 days?
What are you hoping to get?
If you are expecting to “feel” something, there are people on here who get effects from subliminal without feeling anything.
This is my listening schedule
Day 1 : alchemist 2 to 3 loops before sleep
Day 1 : ascended Mogul 1 to 2 loops through the day .
Day 2 : alchemist 2 to 4 loops through the day
Day 2 : R.i.c.h ultima
Then repeat .
- If I knew I have a certain social situation I play (primal seduction iron throne or other social sub )
- Sometimes I remove ascended Mogul and play Mogul only .
- goals
- finish important task related to my Work.
- advancement in my rebirthing practice (removing energetic blockages )
Day 1 : alchemist 2 to 3 loops before sleep
Day 1 : ascended Mogul 1 to 2 loops through the day .
Day 2 : alchemist 2 to 4 loops through the day
Day 2 : R.i.c.h ultima
Then repeat .
- If I knew I have a certain social situation I play (primal seduction iron throne or other social sub )
- Sometimes I remove ascended Mogul and play Mogul only .
I would stick to the listening recommendations
1 day on 1 day off
Also stick to 1 loop for a few weeks then go to 2 if you must but in Qv2 1 is really all you need
You could listen to all 3 on 1 day if you wanted to
Thanks I will look into the suggestions.

Unfortunately QV2 is not powerful as the past versions. There is smth missing different.
Lawd. Last week it was too powerful. This week, it’s not powerful enough. Ya’ll need to stop with this. There is nothing wrong with Qv2. We did not make a mistake. We started testing it mid-February, went through multiple rounds of testing. Going forward, we’re probably going to stop announcing what changes were made, because people keep misunderstanding the big picture and making wild claims, when in actuality, it’s probably just reconciliation.

Maybe because of removing alpha script this is the obvious reason for its weakness.
This did not happen. We removed the generic healing and alpha script that was in every title and had the exact same scripting and REPLACED it with healing and alpha scripting that MATCHED the subliminal’s goals. It is not “missing” alpha scripting. What this does is allow you to receive more of the scripting you want and less of a “generic” script.

Now is the only obvious results are dreams . Not behaviour changes like in the past versions.
That’s because the behavior changes are smoother. Qv1 would trigger a lot of unnecessary anger and frustration, and since that was so obvious, people thought they were getting amazing results. In actuality, you were mostly getting the results from the generic scripting (because you were running 2-3 titles, all with that same generic scripting) and not the change from the actual subs. This is why people are claiming that Qv2 is “too powerful.” Most people had become acclimated to that generic / standard script and had fully integrated it. Here comes NEW alpha and healing scripting that relates directly to the issue you want to fix. Cue the R E C O N C I L I A T I O N and claims of “oh lawd it’s just too powerful!”
Qv2 is not broken. We’d never release a product that isn’t of the highest level of quality. See the Solace test announced weeks ago. It’s not happened yet because it’s not where I want to be and I started over from scratch. Same with LIFE(charger). We scaled back a bit to focus on our core products, since that’s what everyone wants the most.
Thank you for posting this.
Would you please look into the recommendations and post a new listening schedule based on those recommendations? When people are listening to 2 or more loops per day of the same program, I get concerned they won’t get results other than fatigue.
You have day 1 and day 2 and then repeat. Where are your rest days?
Please re-read the updated PDF and the recommendations again.
UPDATE: Official article is out – New Listening Pattern: How Many Loops Should I Listen To (Single and Multiple Titles) - Subliminal Club Support Hub The official support article and update to the instruction manual is coming, but I wanted to go ahead and get this out for anyone who wanted to start immediately. We’re pleased to announce to that after a number of internal tests, you can begin listening to 1 loop each listening day, per title to start, then take a rest day the following day. If y…
It’s long overdue, but the new version of the instruction manual is now available! Most of this information can be found in the Support Center, but for those who want an offline resource, here it is! Also, all links to the instruction manual from within the download page under “My Account” has been updated also. Click the image below to download: [image]
We want you to succeed. If you aren’t following the recommendations and you think nothing is happening, it might be because you would benefit from starting with the recommendations.

Qv2 is not broken. We’d never release a product that isn’t of the highest level of quality. See the Solace test announced weeks ago. It’s not happened yet because it’s not where I want to be and I started over from scratch. Same with LIFE(charger). We scaled back a bit to focus on our core products, since that’s what everyone wants the most.
Thanks for your time to reply🙏. I know it’s not broken as I said I have results with psit and wanted . You stated the proplem exactly.

In actuality, you were mostly getting the results from the generic scripting (because you were running 2-3 titles, all with that same generic scripting) and not the change from the actual subs
I expressed my disappointment because I know the quality of these products. It Benefited me a lot .
I am excited for solace coming , have a great day

You have day 1 and day 2 and then repeat. Where are your rest days?
I will have more rest days .

I get concerned they won’t get results other than fatigue.
Fatigue is very obvious in my case I will read the updated manual . thanks for your guidance.
With the specific intensity and power of Qv2 subliminals, downshifting has become a much more centrally important variable in effective use.
This is a new concept for almost everyone. (It was already there in the past, but now it’s central.)
If I’m driving my car on a gravel road or especially up a gravelly hill, I’m going to go faster, further, and with better control if I downshift to a lower gear.
Upshifting to 4th or 5th is going to cause my wheels to spin and the car may even slide backwards.
There are many, many situations in which downshifting leads to enhanced performance and progress.
But it really only becomes relevant when you’re working with a powerful machine.
Qv2 subliminals are now definitively that machine.
So my point is that, as @RVconsultant keeps gently indicating, it’s time for us to really prioritize the strategic relationship between DOWNSHIFTING and Subliminal Performance.
This is what I’ve been observing and exploring as I work with Qv2 programs.
Cool Thought:
At some point, Qv2 Terminus or Q+ Terminus tracks could theoretically be played once a month (or even once per 2-3 months) to maintain the long-term results of past programs.
Think that could be possible?
Who would do something crazy like getting Qv2 in T or T2?!?
Thank you for posting this. This clears up a lot of wrong thoughts.
So yeah you either stop announcing the changes or you be as precise as in this post
I’m for the latter because it perfectly explains why Qv2 is actually harder on people that keep switching subs.
Like my past self

Who would do something crazy like getting Qv2 in T or T2?!?
I, for one.
I have both of my customs in Standard Qv2 and Terminus (no T2).
I’ll phase the Terminus tracks in more once I’ve really adapted to the Standard builds. (i.e., next year some time). But in May and June, I used them for once-per week meditation sessions. (I stopped doing that once I introduced Dragon Reborn.)
QV2 i think has the naturalizer which means changes will mean you wont notice changes occurring.
Yes definitely
Interesting! You’re using them while meditating?