My problem is I don’t notice anything after listening ZP. Not even after an hour, not even after 4 hours. That’s what I meant when I told that I thought like I don’t feel subs at all.
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Have you tried the hardgainer protocol?
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No, I haven’t. I will try it after my washout then.
Thank you 
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One thing that can increase self-awareness with subliminals and results, is quieting your mind.
Take a break from the forum, as well as from movies, tv, youtube, etc.
Basically what I’m saying is, stop flooding your mind with clutter.
Why?
Well, think about it like this:
Imagine walking into a room and there are 10 different crazy things happening.
The room is painted neon pink with spinning disco lights.
In one part of the room, there’s an elephant playing hopscotch.
In another part of the room, an extraterrestrial is doing cartwheels.
There’s a big screen in the middle of the room playing a porno at high volume.
Mickey Mouse is greeting you with a platter of flamboyant looking cotton candy drinks.
A bunch of ridiculous things going on at once, right…
Because your attention is so occupied on all these things happening in the room, you didn’t even notice the unicorn that walked right past your face.
Now imagine you walk into another room… except it’s painted plain white and it’s just you in the room. Nothing else.
Now a unicorn walks right past you and this time you notice EVERYTHING. You don’t even just notice that it’s a unicorn… You notice the fine details of it’s fur, the rigidness of it’s horn, etc.
Hopefully this analogy is making sense, lol.
I’m referring to the sensitivity of your awareness.
You can increase it, especially when it comes to internal results and changes.
It all begins with quieting your mind.
If you’re at a nightclub with loud music and someone drops a large pan, you might not even hear it. You might hear it but overlook it as being part of the loud music.
When there’s silence, you can literally hear a pin drop. Everything is clear.
Try it out and start journaling through that newfound clarity and sensitive awareness.
Once you see small things, you can begin to create a momentum out of it.
Stop comparing your results with other people.
You’re clearly getting results with Wanted ZP. I thought I responded to your post… I must’ve forgot but I’ll do it now.
I sense uncertainty and a lack of trust, as you shouldn’t have to ask if that’s physical shifting.
You are literally listening to something that can change how your face looks and you’re feeling sensations in your face…
I experienced exactly the same thing as you describe with sensations and pressures in the face. I started researching this stuff about tongue posture and how it affects your face, and facial development. I started doing strange things like mewing and facial stretches without even realizing it. This seems to be one of the pathways through which the physical shifting of your face can manifest.
A lot of it is done subconsciously too, you have to be really aware. I noticed that I started to chew my food differently. Most people wouldn’t notice that… lol. It can be tricky stuff,
But most important you don’t have to know EVERYTHING, and it’s not incumbent on you to become a scientist.
Manifestation basics, is focus on the destination. Never focus on the how. There are a billion things happening with you and in your body at any given moment.
So @SaintSpring .
Now that I’ve given you that initial confirmation you’re looking for and you can rule out the sub being null for you…
From here on out, you’re no longer going to be uncertain or need confirmation.
Starting from tomorrow, you’re going to start trusting the sub, your mind and your destination.
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Ya’ll, cut it out.
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Nice answer here saint👌🏼
Just cut to the chase
@SaintSovereign perhaps this thread can be closed? I believe it has served its purpose.
Another Note
Where did this idea of 3 minute runs come from? @AlexanderGraves.
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Saint’s Journal, he asked people to try 3 minutes if they can.
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Ist ja krass. Hätte ich nicht gedacht 
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He also said we maybe need to listen to in once a month
meine Güte ist ja ein richtiges Outing hier 
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Ich auch nicht.
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Didn’t know being German is so special lol
But anyway, good to see y’all!
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I’ll tell you why I am so firm about this.
It is not the first time such claims have been made if it was cases of gastritis, chest pressure or zero testosterone. The notion is ALWAYS to first consult your doctor, not only for legal liability but also because in most cases there are other factors causing it.
Claiming a subliminal has caused health issues without providing any evidence for it and only operating on belief is a VERY slippery slope. If enough people do that, it can destroy a whole company.
It opens the pathway to a whole variety of claims of induced ailments like hair loss, prostatitis, heart complications, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrom and liver disease. All potentially caused by too high testosterone, and therefore Wanted?! You are comparing WantedZP to side effects of anabolic steroids and contraception pills.
Acne and acne-like symptoms are incredibly common and there are a lot of things in our day to day life that can lead to a first-time outbreak.
If it was not testosterone but a detoxification (let’s say hypothetically triggered by Wanted), there are toxins this individual ingested which is the true cause for the breakout. Even in this case, Wanted is not the toxin, and that detoxification would have occurred at one point or another anyway. It could have been something as simple as Wanted pushed one to eat “healthy“ and one ingested something which the body did not tolerate and had to quickly eliminate, for example, high oxalate content plus other plant toxins in dark-green vegetables.
If it was a general hormone imbalance, why should it be induced only by WantedZP and not by WantedQv2? ZP is far more balanced, if it does change your hormones in measurable units it seems more logical that it would balance them out instead of inducing an excess in comparison to Qv2.
BUT I am gonna be the last to deny that a sub is personally causing health issues IF that individual first does his research, talks to his doctor, looks for more likely and other possible factors, takes action on eliminating them, takes washouts and notices “fuck every time I restart Wanted I get a breakout” and if I don’t run it I do not get one and this happens at least 3 times, yeah I am fine with that.
But first things first. Common is common, rare is rare.
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I agree with this totally, but it really just opened my eyes up again how childish our society is (and not in a good way).
Everyone’s just always pointing fingers, and for the fact that a sub MIGHT cause some side-effects (AT FIRST) before it gets way better is really something any sane, adult person would understand.
Yet, here we are with people running 6 cores every day, claiming the subs don’t work (for example) and why they feel like shit.
It’s one thing to not understand that sometimes it might get worse first, before it gets better, it’s another thing being stupid about it.
Which is most people. Or I shouldn’t say, stupid. More like, not thinking things through.
With that said, I do agree, once we open the door that a sub COULD bring acne to you before it makes you handsome af, people will claim ALL their fucking issues on the subs.
Since we cannot definitely say it IS from the sub, it’s better to stick with “it probably isn’t bro.”
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Still, none of this has anything to do with QV2 reaching EOL lol
Dragon Reborn, dear chap.
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OK FUCK IT.
I see DR EVERYWHERE and everyone mentions it, plus it keeps being in my mind.
Maybe I really have to finally do it 
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