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#261

Everyone you’re comparing yourself to has had the same thoughts. Best not to worry about it too much.

They work. They’re subconscious. You don’t need to notice anything or to “feel” special.

Just:

  1. Listen
  2. Journal
  3. Pursue the life of your dreams

You will be surprised. Everyone else who’s reporting results…guess what? We were surprised too.

That’s just how it works. Not just subliminals. Subconscious change, itself.

If you knew what to expect and how it was happening, that would be Conscious (not subconscious) and these would be Superliminal programs (not subliminals).

Just play them as prescribed, forget about it, and live your life.

The surprises will come later.

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#262

Don’t worry about this , If you can understand English speaking and sure you can read and you can have acceptable conversation skills you are safe. One of the funny ways recon happened with me first time I used subliminal club is the thought . “I don’t understand English” to beat this I just opened YouTube videos and listened to it (to remind myself that I am able and I was able to understand English speaking years back). In the third time this thought faded and I met the real reconciliation :rofl:. Enjoy your journey :blue_heart:

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#263

Let’s really understand Wanted ZP for a second.

What does it do? It’s a physical shifting subliminal that basically communicates to your subconscious mind in a way that makes you irresistibly physically attractive to women.

It turns you into the dreamy, mysteriously hot guy that women drool over.

So how does that manifest? Well, what are physical traits that increase a man’s sex appeal?

Symmetrical face, masculine dimorphism (commonly… square jawline, hunter style eye area), fitness (muscles, low body fat), clear glowing skin and thick hair (health indicators), height, frame, etc. I’ve also read somewhere about the maxilla (upper jaw) being an important part of the face in relation to beauty.

Anyways, it’s no secret that men’s testosterone levels have been declining for decades.
If you’re out of shape, low sex drive and listen to Wanted ZP… Your hormones are going to adjust or experience a change.

There is absolutely no way that your hormones remain untouched throughout the physical manifestation of Wanted ZP.

It’s a fully comprehensive physical shifting sub and I recall Fire saying that everything you can think of is in there.

Believing that there will be zero activity related to your hormones throughout the entire process of the physical shifting, would make zero sense.

Especially if you understand how interconnected everything in your body is.

So if hormones are going to be affected, how? What would make the most sense?
This is not rocket science, lol.

What kind of physical shifting are we doing here?
Testosterone is going to increase… lol.

Saying that Wanted ZP increases testosterone, is far too logically sound and adds up too well, to the point that I wouldn’t even be mad at myself if I bet on it and turned out to be wrong.

My “questionable hypothesis” is really just basic common sense.

Now, the acne part… It could be sebum in the skin’s oil glands due to the increase in hormone production, or it could be a detox of the skin.

Wanted ZP affects hormones and you know… hormonal acne is a thing. Most people know that from puberty… My partner used to have breakouts due to some birth control pill because it messed up her hormones, lol.

Anyways, there are 3 people off the top of my head that have reported acne, in direct correlation to listening to Wanted ZP.

A consistent biological reaction like that in connection to a niche domain like subliminals + small sample size of the forum…
You’re grasping for straws by confidently stating that it’s not the subliminal.

Also, when I mention “anyone who has long-term experience with subliminals”, it’s not for no reason.

I have personally experimented in the past with hormonal type of subliminals such as Testosterone increasing ones on YouTube (they all suck by the way), using the exact style of scientific method you’ve proposed and experienced increased sebum production and acne. Furthermore, I can bring up probably thousands of examples in the form of YouTube comments where people have experienced acne and symptoms aligned with testosterone increase or at least hormonal offset in direct response to using those types of subliminals or frequencies.

I’m not sure why you keep taking passively aggressive shots at another forum member throughout your post.

Next time just get straight to the point, if you want your point to even be taken seriously.

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#265

I am from Germany :wink:

So, no.

My wife doesn’t even speak proper English. Just VERY basic conversational English, and she gets results. Maybe not the best, but still.

There are two things imo:
a) how throroughly you believe that they work
b) your flow factor

Mine is actually not that high. I listen to 3 minutes of a sub and take 4 days rest, otherwise I am overloaded lol
@Invictus for example can listen to 3 subs a day or what and gets SICK results right away.

We all respond differently.

Plus, body composition when it comes to physical shifting. I don’t know the medical term but my body grows muscle and burns fat SUPERFAST when I set out to do so.
I also gain weight super fast.

Some are physical hardgainers also, they might also have issues with physical shifting. Saint imo also said that my body results on Wanted were exceptional, so it’s not exactly a benchmark.

Don’t be discouraged!

Physical shifting is a long game!

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#266

How do the 3 min compare to 5 min you’ve previously run?

#267

Very interesting. As Saint said, it takes 1-2 hours until you actually notice something, but then it SEEMS like they work even better. Like, stronger. More pronounced, with zero recon so far.

Now this wasn’t all bad on 5 minutes, but 3 seems to be even better. For me at least. I am guessing you only get the scripting once. My mind has ALWAYS been very receptive to receiving information.

It’s actually an issue I need to tackle going forward, that not every information I receive is immediately to be taken for gospel. But for subs it’s good. Idk how this works for other people.

I enjoy the “lightness” of 3 minutes.

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#268

Your friend hermit said after listening to emperor version 2 he beat up 3 guys in a fight using his bare fists :slightly_smiling_face: very interesting.

#269

My problem is I don’t notice anything after listening ZP. Not even after an hour, not even after 4 hours. That’s what I meant when I told that I thought like I don’t feel subs at all.

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#270

Have you tried the hardgainer protocol?

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#271

No, I haven’t. I will try it after my washout then.
Thank you :slight_smile:

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#272

@Malkuth @sid @AlexanderGraves
Thank you, guys, your support is priceless to me

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#273

One thing that can increase self-awareness with subliminals and results, is quieting your mind.

Take a break from the forum, as well as from movies, tv, youtube, etc.

Basically what I’m saying is, stop flooding your mind with clutter.

Why?

Well, think about it like this:

Imagine walking into a room and there are 10 different crazy things happening.
The room is painted neon pink with spinning disco lights.
In one part of the room, there’s an elephant playing hopscotch.
In another part of the room, an extraterrestrial is doing cartwheels.
There’s a big screen in the middle of the room playing a porno at high volume.
Mickey Mouse is greeting you with a platter of flamboyant looking cotton candy drinks.

A bunch of ridiculous things going on at once, right…
Because your attention is so occupied on all these things happening in the room, you didn’t even notice the unicorn that walked right past your face.

Now imagine you walk into another room… except it’s painted plain white and it’s just you in the room. Nothing else.
Now a unicorn walks right past you and this time you notice EVERYTHING. You don’t even just notice that it’s a unicorn… You notice the fine details of it’s fur, the rigidness of it’s horn, etc.

Hopefully this analogy is making sense, lol.

I’m referring to the sensitivity of your awareness.
You can increase it, especially when it comes to internal results and changes.

It all begins with quieting your mind.
If you’re at a nightclub with loud music and someone drops a large pan, you might not even hear it. You might hear it but overlook it as being part of the loud music.

When there’s silence, you can literally hear a pin drop. Everything is clear.

Try it out and start journaling through that newfound clarity and sensitive awareness.

Once you see small things, you can begin to create a momentum out of it.

Stop comparing your results with other people.

You’re clearly getting results with Wanted ZP. I thought I responded to your post… I must’ve forgot but I’ll do it now.

I sense uncertainty and a lack of trust, as you shouldn’t have to ask if that’s physical shifting.
You are literally listening to something that can change how your face looks and you’re feeling sensations in your face…

I experienced exactly the same thing as you describe with sensations and pressures in the face. I started researching this stuff about tongue posture and how it affects your face, and facial development. I started doing strange things like mewing and facial stretches without even realizing it. This seems to be one of the pathways through which the physical shifting of your face can manifest.

A lot of it is done subconsciously too, you have to be really aware. I noticed that I started to chew my food differently. Most people wouldn’t notice that… lol. It can be tricky stuff,
But most important you don’t have to know EVERYTHING, and it’s not incumbent on you to become a scientist.

Manifestation basics, is focus on the destination. Never focus on the how. There are a billion things happening with you and in your body at any given moment.

So @SaintSpring .

Now that I’ve given you that initial confirmation you’re looking for and you can rule out the sub being null for you…

From here on out, you’re no longer going to be uncertain or need confirmation.
Starting from tomorrow, you’re going to start trusting the sub, your mind and your destination.

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#274

Ya’ll, cut it out.

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#275

Nice answer here saint👌🏼
Just cut to the chase

#276

@SaintSovereign perhaps this thread can be closed? I believe it has served its purpose.

Another Note

Where did this idea of 3 minute runs come from? @AlexanderGraves.

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#277

Saint’s Journal, he asked people to try 3 minutes if they can.

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#278

Ist ja krass. Hätte ich nicht gedacht :open_mouth:

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#279

He also said we maybe need to listen to in once a month

#280

meine Güte ist ja ein richtiges Outing hier :wink:

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#281

Ich auch nicht.

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