PLEASE READ: Qv2 has reached EOL status

Yeah, my Emperor custom is the first time in ZP I can think of that I’ve experienced recon. Before that, I felt solid. Self-assured. Etc etc.

The last couple of days I’ve felt like women are better than me, that I have to keep my eyes down around dudes even when I’m consciously wanting to make eye contact, unhappy with some of my material circumstances, my lady gets under my skin, feeling rushed for this that and the other, an annoying under the skin pimple decided to show up on the tip of my nose…

And yet each and every one of those things I can trace to my stack and see what’s possibly being worked through in order to reveal something underneath.

Even without subliminals, when someone is manifesting something, most of us have noticed that there sometimes seems to be a ‘step backwards phase’. I’ve certainly seen it.

S’all a part of the process.

P.S. QL ST1-2 haven’t given me mentionable recon though, big shout out to dem.

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@SaintSovereign - man, seriously. Now I suddenly empathise with other submakers when they upgrade their build technology and make an altogether new product and charge exorbitant rates for the upgrade. At least they don’t have to debate with their customers when this happens.

Here we get a superior free upgrade and we are debating the merits and demerits of the upgrade even when objectively we get better results with the new build.

I don’t think anything more can be said to those who disagree.

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Why is everyone forgeting the most important thing… ZPs are 15 min long unlike the previous versions. Less time, less loops is the way to go

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I think Saint commented that the QV2 products might be set aside to be displayed in the museum section to be displayed as artefacts and possibly for sale to those who wish to buy vintage subs.

MadaraUchiha may then have the option to visit this museum and buy vintage products.

  1. Less runtime (and getting even lesser @ 3 minutes)

  2. Smoother Masked track

  3. Less reconciliation

  4. Subliminal programming at the very center of your origin. The zero point

  5. Less energy intensive

  6. Better mood

  7. Faster integration with the self

  8. Faster manifestations

  9. A more natural subliminal build. Way less brute force

  10. Foundation for even better builds in the future

  11. Way ahead of the competition with the ZP build

  12. ZP subliminal effect lasts for longer duration of time

  13. NO TINNITUS

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@LION excellent round up of ZP products as you can see Lion is one of the more intelligent and smarter members of the community.

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Hey Pako how you been matey ?

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All all good good
And how about you?

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did you do any actions?
I read a post where it was told that the user didn’t do anything but got physical shifting results regarding his body.

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He eat buckets of whey protein :rofl:

I got physical shifting results and didn’t work out lol. I am sure if i had actually took action and worked out i would have had 10x better results.

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Well I workout 3x a week and I take whey protein every evening, yes.

But this was the case before I started with Wanted. But WITH wanted these changes happened. If anything, I was eating MORE on Wanted. It is very energy consuming.

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Looking at you, I think WZP doesn’t work for me as good as for you. Well, looking at y’all, I still think such about subs in total.
Can it be because I’m not an English speaker?

Because each and every time someone mentions they prefer certain aspects of older tech, the majority jump on the bandwagon of “NO! You are WRONG”

It’s goddamned annoying. Especially as much as we all here supposedly are enlightened enough to allow others to have their experience as they have it.

ZP is amazing tech. Don’t get me wrong. I myself am spoiled now on the 15-minute aspect of it.

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Man I never said it removed all of my results. Results were just so more profound with me on my qv2 experience. I still had results but maybe I was so spoiled with my qv2 results and expected zp to blow those outta the water. Bottom line is I felt more in control with qv2. And used way more condoms.

Like I also said, I will be moving back to zp and give it an honest shake for longer than I did the first time before I scrapped it. I’m a believer, but I need to feel like I’m gaining instead of losing. Time will tell.

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@Skadoosh Many thanks for spending time doing a great job of explaining things to me, I truly appreciate it!

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WOW DID I JUST JINX IT?

I was going out with a lady tonight when I suddenly got into a fight with TWO fucking drug dealers.

They were both high on hard drugs, one of them being extremely violent getting physical…

Gonna write down all the details in my journal tomorrow…

I am not joking. This could have ended really badly for me - I am so thankful I have Fearsome and Fenrir in my custom, this might have literally saved my life tonight.

If I were @bombayduck I would go ahead and claim that my custom which I have run 2 days ago actually manifested the fight and almost got me killed. But I am Friday and instead prefer to look for the more likely cause which is that this was a coincidence and that the custom actually helped me to survive this shit. If I were still thinking it might have been caused by the sub, I would approach it scientifically:

:point_up:

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There are multiple “questionable” things about this hypothesis. I am actually wondering why @MadaraUchiha isn’t chiming in, picking these things apart is his speciality.

First, is there any scientific evidence that WantedZP does raise testosterone? @SaintSovereign do you have performed any studies? To my knowledge, THERE AREN’T. So we have actually no clue if Wanted can indeed perform measurable increases in serum testosterone.
Experiencing effects that subjectively feel like „testosterone increases“ might not stem from an actual increase in testosterone but could come from a variety of factors. Further to assess, we would need to know by what extent WantedZP could increase testosterone (if even possible) and if Anako is even a responder to that.

Secondly, let’s assume Anako’s testosterone got raised (which I doubt for multiple reasons, one of which is his behaviour here on the forum), would that likely cause an acne breakout?
After taking the time to read a few papers on testosterone and acne, I would say NO or not necessarily.

The current understanding is that testosterone stimulates the production of sebum. An overproduction of testosterone (as seen in steroid abuse) may lead to excessive sebum production, which, in turn, may increase the risk of inflamed sebaceous glands, which can trigger an acne outbreak.
See: An update on the role of the sebaceous gland in the pathogenesis of acne - PMC

The important part is the increased risk. And the question of what actually causes the inflammation?

Even in people taking steroids (or other forms of synthetic testosterone) only 34% have reported acne.
See: Moderate-to-Severe Acne and Mental Health Symptoms in Transmasculine Persons Who Have Received Testosterone - PMC
That is far lower than I expected from people actually often using beyond physiological levels of testo.

Another factor to include is that synthetic testosterone taken orally is not the same as NATURALLY PRODUCED testosterone which would be the case for Anako.
Besides that such anabolic substances are heated, chemically processed, filtered, and often contain fillers that actually can promote breakouts on their own, taking such doses orally can out-lever the body’s natural preventive measures to balance out the hormones.

So in a nutshell, it seems to be more unlikely that WantedZP caused the breakout or at least through the testosterone pathway.

Now the question arises are there other potential causes for the breakout?

YES.

In medical school, we have the saying “common is common, rare is rare”. We are not immediately assuming that a patient has acute intestinal bleeding caused by a massive tumour only because he visits us with abdominal pain.

As advised, check out other more common causes first! Here is a little inspiration: 10 Common Causes for Acne Breakouts | Forefront Dermatology

Reddit is also a great platform to connect with mind-liked individuals who have the same problem and have found its cause.

But most importantly, like with pretty much all health issues, consult your doctor. Especially in this case, he can help you find the cause which you might not find on your own as it can be tricky.

And if you want to proof that it is caused by Wanted, do the scientific approach:

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Everyone you’re comparing yourself to has had the same thoughts. Best not to worry about it too much.

They work. They’re subconscious. You don’t need to notice anything or to “feel” special.

Just:

  1. Listen
  2. Journal
  3. Pursue the life of your dreams

You will be surprised. Everyone else who’s reporting results…guess what? We were surprised too.

That’s just how it works. Not just subliminals. Subconscious change, itself.

If you knew what to expect and how it was happening, that would be Conscious (not subconscious) and these would be Superliminal programs (not subliminals).

Just play them as prescribed, forget about it, and live your life.

The surprises will come later.

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