when I listened to Khan back then I did not get the full potential of Khan and a lot of recon but I still liked the few effects that I got from it. when I would listen to Khan Q nowadays I would get much better results with the knowledge I got now about what I can do and what I can’t when it comes to subs.
yes, definitely. listen less to it. Saint even suggested somewhere to only listen 5min to a ZP title and then stop it but this is still something very experimental.
thanks 
When someone has a disease or illness for a long period of time, one tends to develop a sense of defeatism, possibly a negative stance on life.
This fact alone can slow down healing even impede it.
In my humble opinion, the best tool for clearing this landscape up is Rebirth Ultima.
You have only been running Paragon for thirteen days, and you have a long term medical problem. I would say that it’s going to need considerably more time to actually provide relief.
Paragon will help in addition to whatever medical or therapeutic things you’re doing, but it’s not instant. Just stick to it, do everything else you do to help, and see how you feel in a few months.
Thank you very much for your advice my friend yes guess I expect it to work in a day. I am stacking mindseye and paragon zp. Have you had positive results from the titles on this site and if so what ones have you been using and how long did it take to get results?
I’ve had positive results from a lot of titles here.
As far as how long it takes, it depends on what titles and what results.
You can see improvements in attitude, thinking, body language and the like pretty much instantly, but running a title longer will always get you better.
In your case though, you’re running paragon to heal serious physical damage to your body. Even if that is happening as fast as your body is capable of making it happen, it’s still going to take some time.
I can tell you that Paragon works. My wife started seeing some reduction in her MS symptoms after the first loop of the ZP version. They’re nowhere near gone, and she will probably have to be on Paragon for the rest of her life, but it’s noticeable.
Thank you Wolfe so shall I stick to paragon zp mindseye zp every other day and just persist with it do 21 days then 5 off then 21 days on. Why do you have to have a 5 day break are zp that powerful?
That would seem to be what the second safety notice of the Zero Point Listening Instructions is suggesting.
The way I think it might work is the paragon might challenge your subconscious is to ask the question “So what can I do to help cure my hip.bursitis pain”. Have you found yourself googling on line to find a cure ? or booking in with a specialist practitioner ?. These i believe are signs that the sub is working. The body might already working on a cure for the pain. Perhaps this might take longer then the 2 weeks.
I used to previous version and it help alleviated back pains. I believe it also helped me find a suitable massage therapist to help look at the issue.
Yes Ive been to see a physio and she gave me hip strengthening exercises to do which I am doing. Guess I am expecting miracles but I will be paitent and continue using it thank you.
Have you ever tried Trauma Release Exercises (TRE)? There are good resources in how to do it in youtube.
It helped me to get rid of back pain, it releases all the stored tension and stress from you back and body.
I was also using Paragon Ultima and Elixir, if I remember correctly.
Yes thank you very much for that information.
I will look into that then.
Sorry if this is redundant I didn’t get a chance to read every comment on the thread. But have you had any intuitive messages or nudges from you subconscious like for example while I was using seductress it would prompt me to buy certain skin care products, take certain supplements give me ideas for new hairstyles. The results aren’t always direct listen to the messages of your mind now i will say I have had direct results as well or where I don’t feel like I put much effort in and things just happened but I think that was from the aura modules in my custom. Just give yourself some more time I think you are manifesting changes but we seem to ignore those when we are focuses on our EXPECTED result. I hope this made sense and helps. Peace and healing to you 
My opinion:
You’re doing enough.
Now, let it cook and try to focus on something else.
Don’t keep opening the oven door to check if the cake is really baking.
That’s hard, I know. Especially when it comes to something like physical healing and pain relief.
Try to focus on something else.
If you need to frame that as ‘giving up on the program’. Then, fine. ‘Give up on it’, but don’t stop listening.
The subliminals will still work if you’re feeling desperate. But it may be harder for you to notice results at first.
When a lifeguard goes to save someone who is drowning and panicking, it takes some time for the panicking, drowning person to even realize that someone is saving them.
They usually struggle against the lifeguard for a while. And there’s no blame in that.
But I think you’re doing enough.
Try to integrate some strategies that involve release, letting go, even dissociation.
They won’t seem to “work”. And then they will.
Also, I’d assumed that you were already familiar with this, but just in case you’re not, I recommend looking into Mindfulness for pain management and Hypnosis for pain relief.
Mindfulness and hypnosis use different strategies but both involve working with Attention as a central feature.
A quick Google search yielded these results:
Free Meditation for Pain Management
I also highly recommend the pain relief work of Shinzen Young. It works.
For hypnosis, you can search by yourself and see what you find.
Hypnotic Analgesia/Anesthesia is an actual research-verified phenomenon. There are individual differences in natural talentedness in them (I’m on the lower end), but everyone can use them.
Good luck “giving up” on your pain
And never giving up on your well-being
Hi i, am on my 5 days off on listening pattern but dont see any improvment on my visualization or pain relief from Paragon will keep trying though thanks for asking.
Hey man good luck
You didnt see any improvement at all? Not tiny things even?
