New Support Article: Zero Point Listening Instructions

Unnecessary.

We have new people here who are watching what the more established members are doing, and @AlexanderGraves didn’t say anything aggressive toward you, just asked a question. We are not going to get into the habit of snapping at people who are just clarifying something. That’s literally what this forum is for.

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@malkuth Noted. @SaintSovereign there was no clarification given with the response. As I stated previously it was a question based on how ZP multi stagers could possibly be run, only ZP stages in particular. I have great clarity already on how any multi stage subliminals in prior generations before ZP could are typically used. I’m chalking this one up to miscommunication.

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I must admit, re-reading my initial post, it could come over as snappy.

Not as snappy as this one:
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But nevertheless. My apologies if it came across wrongly :slight_smile:

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Looking back at your original post. It’s pretty confusing.

It seems that you were treating EOG Stages 1, 2,3, and 4 as one title and then adding 2 more ZP programs on top of that.

But if you were going to play all four stages, it would be more similar to playing 4 different programs. (Which would already go over the 3-title limit for ZP stacks.)

Anyway, the whole thing is moot. We don’t even have ZP multi-stage programs yet; not to mention listening instructions.

Just have to stay tuned.

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@AlexanderGraves no hard feelings lol. My apologies as well. Never my intention to bring negativity to this community. Seems I misread your post and thought you took a tone that you hadn’t.

@Malkuth once again as I stated there seems to have been miscommunication that seems to have confused others from my question. Not sure if it’s the way I typed and formatted the post itself. For a moment while typing the post. I had forgotten somehow that each stage in the program truly is it’s own subliminal but all stages are pointed towards one overarching goal. My mind raced a bit and I began theorizing about how ZP stages could possibly be used is all.

You’re correct it is a moot point right now. Like I said I’ll just chalk it up to miscommunication and take more time to understand what’s being stated in response to me going forward. You all enjoy the rest of your holiday season.

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This is a good question.

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At risk of sounding redundant and very bad at maths and logic… 1 day rest is 48 hours between listenings?
Because if its 24h then you don’t have a rest day, right?

Thanks and don’t bash me, except if it’s jokingly and genuinely funny.

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yes, that’s correct

Actually I asked the same question and the support team answered with an uneducated answer they told me don’t play lawyers game people on the support team don’t realize that we are here to have results and I don’t want to hinder my progress.

This was my ticket
Is this considered a rest day or not :thinking:
:point_down::point_down::point_down:

For example

Sunday : 1 loop of regneration at 12 am and Will finish 1 am
Monday : 1 loop of regneration at 1am and will finish at 2 am

The difference between listening time is 24 hours a complete day…

Because in the support article it says (I understand that there is an advanced schedule )

Sunday : 1 loop

Monday : rest

Thursday : 1 loop

When you look at this schedule the different hours are 24+ depends on the listening times.

Answer .

Please don’t play “lawyer games” with the recommendations. Try to listen at the same time each day and take rest days.

So to answer you @Creator yes it’s 48hours rest not 24 hours .

Ok, that’s what I’ve been doing… Sometimes I take 2 rest days. You can feel when it’s necessary. Thanks Sid and Zen.

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I have always interpreted it as meaning at least 2 nights of sleep in between listening days.

  • Listening day + sleep to process
  • Day of no input + sleep to further process
  • Listening day

If I have to think about at least 48 hours in between, I would have to write down the exact time of listening each time, and I’m not that rigid with the listening pattern.

Please someone correct me if I’m wrong

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:point_down::point_down::point_down:According to the support answer Yes you have to listen at the same time each day .

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Well damn… haha. I usually listen some time between 10:00 and 14:00, should be alright, but I’ll try to keep the listening times more consistent :sweat_smile:

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The support staff didn’t answer that question, I did.

Yes, it’s most definitely lawyer games. Sorry, but it is. We’re trying to simplify the process so that the public as a whole can easily understand when to run their titles. You, however, are breaking things down into hours, in attempt to argue with the recommendation with your argument being, since we say to take a “rest day,” but there’s 48 hours between the two listening periods (since you’re running the subs RIGHT at midnight or right after it), then it’s actually two days and you can listen every 24 hours.

To achieve this you employ a rather odd listening schedule that actually spreads across two days at midnight and you’re using that redefine the word “day.” But we’re using the word day, not in terms of 24 hours, but in terms of days of the week, again – to simplify the process.

Now, if you were to move your listening times back about an hour and a half, it becomes very obvious as to what we’re trying to achieve. This simplified example assumes, you’re listening to three ZP titles:

Monday @ 10:30pm, 2x loops (one loop of two of the titles in your stack)
Tuesday @ 10:30pm, you listen to nothing
Wednesday @ 10:30pm, 1 loop of a third ZP title
Thursday @ 10:30pm, you listen to nothing
Friday @ 10:30pm, 2x loops (one loop of two of the titles in your stack)
Saturday @ 10:30pm, you listen to nothing

… and so forth.

Again, the ONLY reason you’re confused, is because (and this is my opinion), you’re listening at very odd times for the purpose of redefining the word “day” in order to get more exposure.

Now, when I have to stop what I’m doing to answer questions like this, it takes me away from releasing new products and answering questions of more importance. Because remember, your original question was, does the 24 hours between loops count as a “rest day.” In other words, you’re trying to listen to the titles every 24 hours exactly and get more exposure.

C’mon, ya’ll. You can look at the listening instructions and clearly see what we were trying to achieve, but since this still seems to be “confusing” to certain individuals, we will update the listening instructions again with EXACT examples. And then, I don’t want to see this happening any longer.

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no need to be sorry .:blue_heart: Although I was frustrated by the answer at the time , because less loops is highly appreciated especially for people played 16 hours reducing listening time to 2 hours for Qv2 is huge leap and now to 30 minutes on zp . So , yes I was confused.

Yes I am listening in odd times usually at night .

Yes mostly this is my schedule

Day 1 : 12:15 am listen to one loop then I give my self more than 22 hours and I play the next loop around 10:30 .
Day 2 : rest nothing to listen
Day 3 : repeat

I used the above listening with QV2 . Also . My simple logic Is that by this way I give myself time to process the script .

thanks for taking time to answer :pray: , this question was old and I didn’t post on the forum . What made me share it now is the question asked here .

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Yes. I was about to say the exact same thing, and then I scrolled up and saw your post.

Give yourself: 1 sleep + 1 sub-free processing day + 1 more sleep.

It’s not about just counting hours.

If you played a ZP sub and then did not sleep or eat for the next 48 or even 72 hours, playing another loop might not be such a good idea.

A complex set of beneficial changes and reactions—that we summarize under the simple term ‘Processing’—happen when you sleep and when you remove yourself from the condition of being actively stimulated (i.e., when you allow parasympathetic activation to predominate).

Your body needs those changes in order to properly integrate food, information, etc.

Some need a little more and some a little less. But we all need it.

There is no human being on this earth who can survive by ‘Only Inhaling’.

A fully cycle of healthy breathing involves an Inhalation and an Exhalation.

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If youre running Qv2 with ZP it will be 2 loops per week of ZP if im doing the math right

Day 1 : ZP (1-2 loops)
Day 2 : off
Day 3: Qv2
Day 4 : off
Day5 : ZP(1-2 loops )
Day 6 : off
Day 7 : Qv2

Which seems to me so low of a frequency thats why im wishing for RM ZP :new_moon_with_face: so i could play the same stack every other day

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I don’t think we have an official answer at this point. However, username SaintSovereign has mentioned feeling the effects of Diamond ZP for over a week after he stopped listening.

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:face_with_monocle:

So you have about 22 hours between Loop 1 and Loop 2…

And about 26 hours between Loop 2 and Loop 3.

Repeat.

Correct?

:thinking:


Might as well standardize at 24 hours, and affirm that you prefer to play 15 minutes a day – everyday at about the same time.

Just accept that you do NOT follow the Official Guidelines.

It’s not a biblical sin, you know.

“Lawyer Games” might be though.

:sweat_smile: :innocent:

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Yes this correct

No , even in QV2 I always have my rest days a complete 24 hours or more depending on the listening time . I have other signs beside the time , one of them is dream recall . With QV2 I can remember 3 to 5 dreams per night . With zp 2 loops I can only remember little from those dreams . With one loop of zp I can recall 3 dreams . And when I can’t this is a sign that my mind is processing and I give myself rest day(24h) without any guilt.

:sweat_smile::sweat_smile::sweat_smile:

Not lawyer games for a simple direct reason

I look for results only . Not playing more loops to hinder my progress . And I actually was having good results with all QV2 titles I played . (Rich , regneration , true social and Elixer , alchemist daredevil , HOM , ascended Mogul )

Lawyer game concept appeared on the forum after QV2. The people get confused from

  • Set and forget around 16 hours a day listening time
  • To 2 hours a day with QV2 with rest days .
    This change made people feel that they are not doing enough of listening . They are not realising that the purpose is not listening to more loops but having results .
  • someone posted here in the forum something tells the same , like "oh now we should Focus on taking more action " they were confusing listening time with taking action .