As I have not used Sanguine: The Elixir I cannot comment much on it.
I’d go with regular Sanguine (named New Sanguine) as @Billions recommended. It is listed as healing but it reduces reconciliation and is gentle.
Phoenix would be too early in my opinion.
I decided and bought Sanguine. Going to listen to the first 30s tomorrow and not going to listen to anything else for now, to see how it feels.
Then I’ll add Ascension.
Even though Primal is really my style I was told it’s for more advanced users.
SSX looks to be like Primal but for beginners, so this might be the third title to add to my stack.
Actually, I would like to suggest the store to have a new category bar for looking up titles: “Beginner”, “Intermediate” and “Advanced”.
Honestly, about the SSX vs Primal debate, I’d say open a ticket with support.
For me Primal isn’t about seduction. It’s about shedding layers upon layers of bad conditioning to become a liberated expression of yourasculine essence.
Of course that can lead to seduction. Because it makes seduction much easier if you cam exude this Primal stench of “I don’t care about your opinions because I know who I am, and I’m loving it”.
It’s like you want to build a muscular body but you have troubles with your spinal disks and are always tired.
Of course you could start with Emperor Fitness or Spartan Apex Warrior.
But perhaps Paragon would be the better fit, to help with health in general. To build a base on which you can start working out.
Primal is for me the masculine extension of LB.
So you mean that I could start with SSX, but perhaps Primal would be the better fit, to help with general masculinity and to build a base on which I can start seduction? Or the other way around? 
To me it seems like Primal is preparing the base, getting you fit and running. With that base, you can run SSX much differently because you’ve grown so much personality wise.
The X from SSX means it’s a title from the old Weapon X series. A series that aimes to improve skills. Like UWX (Ultimate Writer) improves writing, GMX (Gaming Mastery) improves Gaming or MTX (Muay Thai Master) improves Muay Thai skills.
But Primal isn’t about seduction skills.
It’s about a seductive personality.
It’s changing you in your core.
Skills don’t need that.
A few years back, I took a course for stage training. We were 200 people. Some participated the 2nd or 3rd time. Some of them had acquired the skills already. They did everything right.
But it still wasn’t them.
Some used a lot of energy and big motions, exactly as they’ve learned to do it. But it didn’t do much. Because it wasn’t coming from their inner center. It was just something they learned to do right.
Others went on the stage and with minimal motion they stirred up the crowd. Because they were present and their energy was tangible.
It wasn’t a mask they put on, but an expression of their authentic self.
That’s the difference for me between beeing and skill.
If you change who you are, it doesn’t need extrem levels of skill to succeed.
Skill, of course, amplifies your success.
On the stage or with seduction.
And of course, learning and using skills will change you over time. So SSX will help as well. Over time.
Just like many of these seduction and PUA coaches teach their stuff, that works for them, but if others do it, it often seems fake, artifical. Because it’s not their nature. And they shy away from the hard shadow work that is necessary to change that.
But over time, asking 500 women for their number does its thing on you. You change nevertheless.
But here as well, if you’re already a person that can attract women, the same skills and techniques are more effective.
So Primal is about making you a seducer by nature. It’s about confronting your shadows, your limiting beliefs. To let them go and become the Primal, untamed man you are deep down inside. To shed all the layers of conditioning, of limitations.
That’s why I see Primal as a fundamental sub.
It is, mate:
Moreover, PRIMAL delves deep into the psyche, eradicating the chains of limiting beliefs and fears, including the dread of rejection, that have long held sway over your potential. It’s about unlocking a realm of boundless romantic and seductive prowess, a landscape where you are free to explore and express the full magnitude of your charisma and desire.
Although it’s SSX that is laser-focused on it.
If you really went out there to seduce women you would see how skillful Primal makes you. Those skills are inherent yet need to get unlocked and then they can be mastered (the latter is the very reason they’re called “skills”).
@Sub.Zero what he is saying is that Primal is the foundation, that you can multiply the results got from SSX if you do a proper foundation first, and you won’t need to do much effort if you build first that foundation.
In the same way Sub Club recommends Ascension or Genesis as the first Alpha titles to build an alpha foundation.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think if someone just wishes to have sex with lots of high quality women the path should be Ascension->Primal->SSX.
Ascension + SSX + (most of the time) Rebirth or CFW or LD
SSX is a foundational sub. Read the sales copy again. Just to give you two samples:
Sex & Seduction X helps you shine a gentle, illuminating light on these subconscious barriers, allowing you to overcome them through positive experience. It might manifest as unexpected interactions with enchanting individuals who, serendipitously, offer insights that catalyze healing.
With Sex & Seduction X, your proficiency in the art of seduction becomes secondary. The New Romance Experience’s scripting continually manifests and ushers you into favorable scenarios at your current seduction level, providing a conduit to deeply explore your desires and discern PRECISELY the blueprint for your romantic triumphs—customized entirely around your distinct life circumstances.
It is not. Read this post and my reply.
OK.
I run today my first 30s microloop of Sanguine and didn’t feel almost anything.
So I’m considering trying Rebirth, CWF, or SE.
But there is a problem I’m predicting:
So if the above is happening with some frequency using Ascension, I’m imagining with Rebirth it could become too much (it also heals through dreams as you can see below), but let me know your opinions:
Also do you predict any problem in trying 4 healing subs in a row to see which one I feel more confortable with?
I cannot tell since I don’t know the nature of your psychological struggle. Perhaps consulting a specialist would be your best bet. No healing sub can replace professional medical advice.
Don’t make me wrong, I just won’t take responsibility for your psychological well-being, mate. I’m sorry.
I opened a support ticket about that, and to clarify the Primal Vs SSX discussion.
I also listened today to my first 30s of SSX and it feels great as you can see here: Main Disc. Thread - The NEW Sex & Seduction X -- Now Available (Free Upgrade) - #516 by SuperSaiyan
Sanguine didn’t work. If I don’t like a title I should change it immediately like I did today instead of going through unbearable recon, wasting my time and seeing regression in my results like what happened with Love Bomb.
There are some results from Love Bomb like having the “Angel Eyes” or that innocent look,
I just hope they don’t fade away because in the instructions I read the subs are like going to the gym: you can see quick results at the beginning, but if you stop they’re going to disappear. They only become permanent after about 6 months.
Now my question is if I should readd Ascension to my stack.
I like the powerful and high status part of Ascension, but I don’t like the “quiet, emotionless and don’t talk too much” part. I’m a social and talkative person with intense emotions.
With Ascension I was also falling into negativity, frustration and anger.
So I ask if there is any title similar to Ascension that satisfies my needs or the only solution I see is to build a custom of Ascension without the “quiet, emotionless and don’t talk too much” modules.
The first time I read this I read “Go with Phoenix…”, that’s why I didn’t say anything at the time. Dragon Reborn is not a title for beginners.
But thanks for your supportive words and for trying to help.
Edit: Sorry, now that I read the descriptions again, Dragon Reborn RED is the one that is not for beginners. I didn’t know there were 2 Dragons. 
Let the shit burn to Ashes Buddy
This might just be recon, maybe start with microloops (unless you already have), or continue where you’re at and it’ll probably go away, up to you though.
Also I want to say this: @Parsifal please don’t take my comments personally. I appreciate all the help you have been giving me since my first day on Sub Club. It’s just that some things work for some people and don’t work for others (and vice-versa).
Go and make your own experience.
Perhaps SSX is best for you, I can’t tell.
Just keep in mind, if a sub is stirring up negative emotions and you feel bad, that’s usually a good sign that it’s working on some deep shit.
And just because you don’t a feel a sub right from the start doesn’t mean a thing either.
@Hoppa never felt emperor. He felt never powerful after listening, nor clever or whatever. But it propelled him forwards tremendously. He just kept listening to it.
I hope so. If I could see a bloom after some time not listening to Love Bomb that would be amazing. According to the instructions it’s needed about 6 months for the results to become permanent, and I only did about 1.5 months of intermittently listening to Love Bomb, but if the “deep shit” gets changed, it might bring “big permanent bloom”.
Or it might just be the case that I should have taken more action, but due to the unbearable recon I had to stay sleeping on the couch in the afternoons, instead of taking more action, and in that scenario I have just been wasting my time.
Time will tell.
Again we are all different. With Ascension I remember on my second listening day I got lots of compliments from my Reiki therapist (who I stopped seeing on my first week to not interfere until I have a stable stack and until I fell “mentally strong” as defined by @Fire here - Main Disc. Thread - PHOENIX: A Dragon Reborn Experience (Free Upgrade Now Available!) - #613 by Fire). With Love Bomb I also felt the effects on the second listening day. With SSX on the first day.
With Sanguine I felt something on the first day, but it wasn’t what I was looking for. It was some very little positivity (maybe I needed a much bigger loop), but it felt fake and forced, people didn’t appreciate my sense of humor, and I got into passivity again like with Love Bomb.
That’s why now I’m reluctant in trying SE or CWF because they have the same “passive”, “lazy” and “oh so nice” vibe, because “we have to take care of ourselves”.
I think I’m not prepared yet to run Love Bomb in the same way that if you’re a beginner you’re not prepared to run Khan Black because your reality is too different from the subliminal input, and so you get too tired all the time.
Anyway even when one day I’m ready to get back to it, I wonder about the “passive”, “lazy” and “oh so nice” attitude. That’s not me. Maybe I’ll change, but I wonder… Maybe my mind just rejected the script because I don’t want to be like that.
For example I also don’t see myself as a the guy portrayed in Wanted. I’m not and I don’t want to be a mystery man, nor a James Bond type. I think that falls into the category of a Sigma male. So I’m not going to run titles like Wanted, and if I would it probably would cause me huge recon (I’m wondering, I don’t have proof of that).
I’m a guy who likes to socialize and connect with everyone and for me that’s part of what it means to be an Alpha. Remember Leonardo DiCaprio in the movie “The Wolf of Wall Street”? That’s me when I’m feeling good, except that I don’t do drugs nor prostitutes, I follow moral values and principles, and I’m a polite and hard working guy who knows how to behave correctly when in formal settings or when necessary.
Since I started my journey on the subs world, I already unlocked that “DiCaprio Wildness and Sexiness”, but the results did not become permanent. Today SSX brought back some of that and that’s why I think now titles like Primal are ideal for me.
Edit: or titles like Phoenix might be ideal for me too.
Have you looked at Genesis? It’s the best beginner sub, Fire made it that way. I think it would do things good for you. @SuperSaiyan
It heals but only in a way to get you going, it’s got libertine/love bomb aura and adventure scripting. You can keep bouncing around the store trying things until you need a washout from random stuff or just settle down with Genesis and maybe SSX if you want.
I only didn’t try Genesis from the start because I don’t want to spend time now searching for my life purpose. My purpose right now and priority is to go back to work and get a girlfriend or sex with several women.
Examples?
If Love Bomb with 5s micro loops caused me unbearable recon for 1.5 months (and I took action, just not as much as I like I would have taken), why wouldn’t Genesis cause the same, if it has the libertine/love bomb aura?
For someone who already had to do 2 washouts and spend so much time in recon, and don’t see a problem in risking that to happen a 3rd time (or not), by trying some subs to get a better understanding of what works best for me and then chose the 3 ones I feel better with.
I’m not saying I’m going to start trying lot of subs. I already have SSX. I’ll readd Ascension and see what happens. If it goes well I won’t touch it and I’ll only try Rebirth after I find my sweet spot with the current stack.
If readding Ascension doesn’t go well I’ll keep trying until I find some solution that I feel well with.