Thanks, so if someone on stage 3 was very attracted to me from that vibe, would stage include that too.
Sounds like k4 is better for overall manifestation and seduction but k3 for pure action.
I notice I’m more in action on k4 but could be bloom
edit: more in action on non romance related matters but also romance still
Helpful support ticket regarding Khan/Stacking, etc.
ROTATING OUT REFORGED
Reasonable. If you’ve reached what you were after - boundaries, discipline,
sovereignty in relationships, standing at work - then rotating toward something
more externally oriented is a sound call. Worth noting you can return to it
later; Reforged works at the identity level and tends to keep compounding, so
leaving it isn’t closing a door. Also keep in mind that rotating it out takes
ESSENCE: The Prize with it, since that’s embedded there.
KHAN: CAN YOU START AT STAGE 2?
Here’s what matters. Stage 1 is Total Breakdown - it exists to demolish. Stage 2
is explicitly described as rebuilding your beliefs, emotions, subconscious
structures and personality “from the dust and ashes left behind by ST1.” So
there is a genuine dependency: ST2 assumes cleared ground.
That said, in your specific case there’s a strong argument for going to ST2.
You’ve just finished two full cycles of Reforged, which is deep identity-level
work, and by your own account it delivered on the foundational pieces. A
considerable amount of what ST1 would clear has plausibly been addressed
already, through a much less disruptive route.
What you’d forgo by skipping ST1 is its purging function - including its
capacity to destroy unhelpful subliminal programming from past titles. After
five years of use, whether that matters is something only you can judge. If
nothing from your history feels like it’s still working against you, ST2 is a
defensible starting point.
ST2 also aligns better with what you’re actually after. It’s the stage that
develops authority, reshapes relationships, and builds status and power.
THE RECONCILIATION AND COMMISSIONS QUESTION
I’d push back here, because it’s the one part of the plan that may not hold.
RICH and True Sell won’t mitigate ST1’s reconciliation. Heavy reconciliation is
ST1’s design rather than a side effect - it’s a breakdown stage, and it’s meant
to be demanding. Adding titles alongside it doesn’t buffer that; it increases
total processing load. With three titles running, our own guidance is that you’ll
likely need additional rest days and should separate the third title onto its own
listening days. That’s the opposite of what you want during a high-performance
season.
So the honest answer is that if commissions matter this season, ST1 is the wrong
stage to run right now, regardless of what you pair it with. Save it for a
season where disruption is affordable - or reconsider whether you need it at all
given what Reforged has done.
STACKING THE THREE
Your instinct to build RICH and True Sell into one custom is the right move. It
consolidates them into a single title slot, so you’d sit at two titles rather
than three - well within the ceiling, and materially lighter to process. That
alone does more for protecting your work performance than any pairing strategy.
A KHAN CUSTOM WEIGHTED TOWARD CAREER AND STATUS
This is a good idea and addresses a real issue. Khan as a title carries
substantial weight toward sexual and social dominance and romance. Building a
custom around Khan ST2 Core lets you re-weight it toward career, wealth and
status while keeping dating in the mix rather than at the center.
The trade-off is that a core in a custom isn’t the same as running the staged
title - you get the essence of the stage, but not the stage progression. For
what you’re describing, that seems like a fair exchange.
PEACE or GLM would definitely support K1 breakdown
also for me I feel an apathy on K1 more than heavy emotional issues and a subtle things are falling apart.
When I micro loop it I feel a huge surge in energy and freedom .
My biggest issue with K4 whether recon or not
I would just keep at it until recon subsides honestly. I feel like Khan is always hard and you keep at it for a good duration until it smoothes out. 
Peace helped me realized that I stopped Khan cause it was helping me grow and that was unfamiliar (read: scary) if I want to become the who has everything I want, I need to grow. So back to Khan after my washout.
Tldr; Peace is crazy.
I felt the same. It happened to me with emperor as well.
So after some experimentation its clear. While it is recon and could be smoothed out from further running-
I ran K1 for 10 seconds and I was so fxxing relaxed, all the khan program starting executing like crazy,
I felt good and confident inside- I’ve been feel on edge with khan and so pushed - like being with crazy anxiety/ intensity/weight- starting in stage 3 and amping up in stage 4 even stage 2. Part of it I thought was some life situations because I had some romances falling apart that was bothering me, but when I went out everything I expected of Khan was there. I’ve been getting benefits from it for sure but in no were as powerful way as I experienced. Well I had glimpses but it was inconsistent. Now its not a waste because all that programming will be empowered by stage 1-since I’ve been transforming with it for a year.
then I ran Spartan: Beast before the gym- and it amplified the positive khan effects even more. I ended up talking to this bombshell woman at the bodega and something will unfold from it in the near future. I don’t run Khan to talk to woman randomly but it just happened.
It was like this concern of fake masculinity disappeared, and I just felt like the real deal, not like a child on the inside coming across with intensity.
So I’ll be incorporating K1 back into the stack after this - while my boldness and action and results have been insane the last three months- my staying power, and sense of internal confidence and ambition has actually been quite low, as my positive expectation and sense of failure was strong,
We’ll see if I can sustain K1 with performance but it feels like the right move
I believe Emperor Reforged may be the only possible replacement for K1
I’m going over Khan st1 again now.
I have about 2 cycles under my belt now it’s the third one.
In the past I went over all stages just once .
I think it’s a good idea to go over the stages and maybe do more cycles of a stage we don’t completely integrate.
Khan1 is helping me become more dominant and confident.
My custom has PS Wanted and Paragon.
Using Khan1 the last week helped me flirt with women more than before.
I also feel I have more women around me.
That’s what the custom should do.
But that’s what Khan1 is helping me create as I let go of resistance for greatness.
Yes , I would run it dominantly and only a smidge of your other custom, and then ramp up your other custom use more. But obviously do what feels right to you.
As the night continues to unfold I feel like an oppressive weight as been lifted from me
and a realness is settling in. The other khan stage are incredible and have provide lots of growth and results, but intuitively more and more I was being pulled to K1 again.
When it comes to dominance and women Khan is one of the best subs for me in that area.
Being unapologetic is awesome on Khan.
Are you experiencing that from K1 or which stage?
Dominance :
St1 then st3-4
Women manifestations :
2 a bit
Then ST4 max
It’s not something I researched too much
So I think throughout it just builds.
Still I think the first time I ran st2 the women manifestations didn’t kick in for me the max till stage 4…
That said this time around st2 might be stronger in that department because of experience.
We will see.
I wonder what exactly is it that you are asking? Women? Dominance? Not giving a fuck?
And why… Because you do have great experience with Khan you should know the answers to these questions. I do love discussions you can certainly ask anything you like I would like to hear what your experience has been as well 
Women manifestations to me means:
More women beautiful around
When I approach some of they open more than before.
Some dates
Till now it doesn’t necessarily means:
Sex
Handjob
Bj
Or anything like that
Not even kissing.
So my Khan experience is lacking!
I probably need more time with it and experience.
Based off what you said-
I was wondering what stage YOU were experiencing that on or noticing it. It could be all of them or one , or several I was clarifying.
I have a beginners mind my friend. I am always curious about others experience on subs, regardless of my level of expertise or experience on them
I have and will continue to share my experience.
Another thing that had me revert to K1 was I noticed how distraught I was with a particular romantic connection, despite dating other woman.
I think that will deepen with lots of action of K3 and K4
Khan is super high status, so requires a lot of leading and being comfortable with that.
Why no sexual escalation/experience? What’s the bottleneck. Are you not trying, woman on dates not interested, or interested but not open/comfortable to things going further etc…
Well I hope I clarified.
Same here.
I did on Primal and WDB…
My time with Khan was just few months and I was probably mis calibrated with few of the interactions. Also some women just ghost or it’s hard to connect with. And some I just don’t want anything to do with.
Again I do talk to a lot of women.
After all the new releases, do you think we can replace Love & War Stage 1 with some other title? Like Regeneration, PEACE etc. or stage 1 has some specialized scripting for next stages to work properly?
someone described Peace as a gentler Khan ST1, if I remember correctly
edit: found it
Im guessing stacking to them together might be a good thing
ST1/TB lays the foundation for future success with Khan. Other healing titles aren’t hitting the same limitations and issues TB is.
As much as I HATED TB, I’m talking days off work to deal with the emotional devastation—you need to run it.
100%. If I was running TB today, I’d stack TB, PEACE and ZONE or OG Limitless to keep up productivity.