Main Disc. Thread - The NEW Dragon Reborn RED

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#419

Funnily enough, ST1 was what I’d describe as nice, whereas ST2 is quite a different beast, at least for me.

DrRed Stage 1 gave me this constant feeling of being in the calm in the eye of a storm. Perfect for deep introspection, even in the middle of stressful situations. Sure, there were some rough patches of recon here and there, but it was manageable. Ran it solo for the first half of the cycle, and introduced Love Bomb in the second half. Even though I’m on my fifth cycle of Love Bomb, I found it necessary to go even lower with my microloops of DrRed when I added Love Bomb back into the mix. Overall, it felt like a mix of Khan Stage 1 with a Sanguine on Steroids effect, minus the sexuality of Khan. Lots of highly symbolic dreams. Despite the really low productivity(even less than on Khan sometimes), it felt great and I felt like I progressed a lot on it.

But Stage 2 hits like a truck. Before, the worst recon I got was on Khan TB during the first two cycles. With DrRed Stage 2, I am just adding 30 seconds to the single microloop and running it solo, and sometimes, nothing major happens. I can go about my day and there is neither the feeling of heavy processing, nor any overt signs of recon. And then, on some other days, that feeling of heavy processing kicks in shortly after the loop, followed by a feeling of sleepiness the likes of which I haven’t experienced before. Like in the middle of the day, after getting plenty of restful sleep during the night, I just mentally collapse and feel like I urgently need to sleep. Sometimes I wake up with crippling recon. Thankfully it doesn’t take me long to become functional because I can eliminate negative self-talk as it occurs, and the dark cloud simply passes through me. In general, I often feel mentally “done” a good 4-6 hours before I normally do on most days, even when I’m not doing anything mentally taxing. This suggests that a lot of subconscious processing is going on. This sub is very dense and takes up a majority of mental “space”. Just as expected, looking at the ambitious list of objectives.

If I had a stressful job or had to prepare for an exam, it would be really difficult to run DrRed. And oh, the frequent spells of being irritated by everything around me. I’m already doing everything I know to mitigate recon and make processing easier on my mind(lots of walks in nature, drinking 3-4 L of water everyday, 2-3 hours of workouts every second day, a healthy diet and lots of meditation and contemplation. Indulging myself from time to time. Reducing microloops. Extended washouts etc.) and it’s just barely manageable on my end. I recently read that @James intends to run DrRed with Emperor and a third title of some sort. He must have cojones made of some rare metal.

I feel like this is the perfect deep introspection sub for those who can afford to take 3-4 months off and just walk in nature and enjoy the company of horses. Sometimes, I catch myself just enjoying the sight of certain plants or flowers. The way the wind moves them or the way the sun shines on them. @Tobyone Something for you?

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#420

Whenever I feel down or like life is not going my way (crazy timeline still continues to unfold…) a loop of DR Red is like a much needed shot in the arm that calms me down and makes me see how silly negative thoughts or catastrophies in the mind are.

I do enjoy having this sub around if not just to bring peace and calm during a tumultuous last week I had in terms of thoughts

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#421

@Fire,

Out of a number of DR RED manifestations today, I had about 20 minutes where I experienced pieces of (edit: New Beginnings) because I began questioning what I was telling others and myself. I put this in old DR customs since it had a heavy focus on addressing the imposter syndrome. And I clearly felt it.

It wasn’t nearly as heavy as it was in past customs (I’m using St.1 of the store version), but I thought I’d report this. It didn’t keep hitting me.

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#422

I had the most incredible feeling of RAW FREEDOM after recon of khan st1 + dr red st2

The st2 healing is hitting a lot stronger than previous version and i like that. This is a good stage could stay longer but want to move keep momentum.

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#423

Howdy all, haven’t been on the forum much but I just completed a cycle of ST1. It was as if it manifested everything bad possible to show me how bad some things are and to help me to set a clear path towards where I need to go. I had some extreme turbulence during week 1, week 2 was choppy, week 3 things settled and now during washout it feels like I was able to shed some unconscious thoughts that were masquerading as useful but in reality, were holding me back and keeping me in a cycle of failure. It feels like I’ve been here before though on several occasions. I still fear a lack of ability for true change, but I will push onto ST2 and see what happens.

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#424

from today, my “mental structure” doesn’t collapse no matter what happens.
all thanks to drst4 + sanguine (1 cycle), this post from @fire, and daily long periods (6 hrs -ish) meditations on it:

makes me socially alpha, and more importantly silent mind in all situations (its not completely silent but the remaining inner voice is of useful astute analysis of situations on right times).

PS. i hope fire puts out more stuff on this matter. His one post literally changed my life.

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How to develop peak mental strength?
#425

I’m probably in recon, but what is the way to deal with it from DR type titles? Feels like I’m taking a blow, scabbing, taking a harder blow, scabbing, repeat ad nauseam.

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#426

I usually do Forgiveness. That seems to work well for me.

Forgive those who I think about during recon. Forgive myself when I remember my mistakes.

And sometimes, I simply have to go through hell to get to the other side.

Some other options are meditation, eating a bit of chocolate, going for a walk, playing a computer game you really like, talking to a very close friend, journaling. The list is endless.

I treat recon as just another form of bad mood. And I know it will be released in due time.

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#427

Dragon flight begins, first loop of khan st1 and dr st3

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#428

Stop it, take a few days off, and play something else.

Sometimes, its just not the right time for a sub title.

:hugs:

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#429

What lion said, contemplation, self compassion, gratitude, time in nature, energy healing… Its one of the most important subs you can go through and such a process is not meant to be easy even without subs the nature of this process is such.

Playing less time loops or adding a gentle supplementary sub like love bomb or sanguine

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#430

Always use a sub not for the sake of using a sub, but to help you reach a specific goal you have in mind. It focuses your subconscious. If you don’t do congruent actions, you’ll be hit with recon. The whole reason we are supposed to do some easier subs before Dragon Reborn is to give us the direct experience of what recon looks like for us personally and to already have a toolbelt of remedies available in our knowledge base before we begin with DR.

DR is tough, there is no way around it from what I know.
When recon comes up, pay close attention to the content of your mind. Often there are clues as to what it is working on in that specific moment. Try to resolve it by calmly thinking about it, or writing down all of your associations. An exercise I came up with during Stage 2 is to do a personal Q&A in a word file. I start off with a concrete question that is related to a goal I am working on. Something like “Why do I fear change? How do I open up to change?” or “How do I unconditionally love myself?” and then I answer the question myself. I find that I always already have all the answers I need. I then turn what I found in my mind into exercises I can do everyday until I feel my attitude changing. Then I move on to other weak points.

Most people will tell you to take a break, lower the loops or to use Sanguine/Love Bomb to make the recon more manageable. But at least personally, I find it useful to not try to avoid the pain, because it exists for a reason, namely to draw my attention to what needs to be reconciliated. I’ve been using Love Bomb for 5 months already, so I am acutely aware how it helps with contemplation and turning inwards a lot on one hand, but also can make you too complacent on the other hand. But I find that change sometimes only comes from aggressively confronting what we don’t like to confront, because long-standing assumptions we hold about reality are difficult to change, even with these godlike subliminals. It sometimes requires intense contemplation and questioning, along with new reference experiences to affirm changes. It’s a tough process of one part of your mind convincing another part of your mind that what your mind used to believe might not be true and counterproductive to the goals of a fresher part of your mind.

Now that I am about to get into Stage 3, there is also that feeling of in-betweeness, where I am not quite sure in what place I am, because I have not fully transcended part of my old reality yet, and one foot of mine is already in a new reality. That can feel quite weird and for that I have no other remedy than to have patience and trust the process.

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#431

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Difference of going through recon poorly or wisely.

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#432

Thanks for your advice everyone :slightly_smiling_face: Particularly frustrating today because my coping mechanism was denied on top of the crap. I’ll try to apply what y’all said

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#433

The results from DRR1 have been really satisfying :hugs:

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#434

You’re gonna love Stage 2 then!

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#435

I’m completing ST2 this week, I’m wondering should I go right into DR Gold right after ST4.

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#436

What really intrigues me is that it was mentioned that one could alternate the titles at the same time! ST 1 DRR then next cycle you do ST 1 DRG and work your way through both titles like that. That’s how I plan to run them.

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#437

Perhaps, however each stage in DR Gold has other benefits I would like to benefit from.

#438

Maybe, but my perspective is that I can benefit from both titles concurrently and for me that’s a really exciting proposition. That’s all I meant.

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