Main Disc. Thread - Stark ZP

Product Discussion
#1077

The way I experience Stark is that I’m thriving when I am part of any interesting conversation. The more intelectualy challenging, the better.
Daredevil, on the other hand in the context of presentations does 2 things:

  1. adds a new level of confidence, by completely removing any thoughts around my speech and helping me visualise a positive reaction of the audience
  2. I caught myself a couple of times while starting to think about the speech, taking a deeper breath and instantly smiling thinking about the positive result

Imma add to my story this: whenever I run run Stark(and this is especially true with the store program, sometimes less in customs because I usually create heavy customs), in less than 1 week I have at least 2 people telling me that they don’t understand how I can do what I do, that they would be happy to have 10% of my brain power. Same people do not react like this when running QL4 for example, so it’s definitely the fame aspect, not actually the brain power.
It’s not one time that I believed that USING STARK IS LIKE CHEATING.

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#1078

To consciously feel the sub more?
Or for the sub to feel more grounded?

The only thing I’d recommend is to look into that phenomena people were experiencing with the first version of Stark ZP, which made us feel like we had an active “Jarvis” voice in our heads, I guess that’s why these kinds of discussions weren’t brought up at that time, but now that effect doesn’t seem to be there anymore.

Other than that people just be trippin :joy:

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#1079

I was literally thinking about this in the shower, Chosen with the new experience scripting could be some sort of Chosen + CFW :fearful:

#1080

holy shit this conversation took an insane righ turn towards chaos… i take no part in this, i was merely criticising the “incomplete feel” of the sales page and how it felt underwhelming running this title compared to the upgraded newer titles like genesis, wanted black, etc (which will 100% be changed when this title is updated, i was just providing feedback from my perspective)

i would like to see this title really go deeper into the full archetype of tony stark, every characteristic taken to a level 11.

charisma, intelligence, technology oriented, innovation, entrepreneurship, leadership, more adjectives (:rofl:), etc

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#1081

Yes, you did mention the “incomplete feel.” But the conversation started like this:

In other words, the so-called “incomplete feel” is linked to the “Any Gender” label.

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#1082

This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.

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#1083

I still stand by that opinion, but again it’s my opinion, that’s the neat part about those… people can disagree and it still doesn’t matter.

Everyone reacts to every title differently, and I was addressing it based on what a female user said about her experience with it.

#1084

He wasnt the one who started the Stark’s too feminine crap… it was another user, one who has like 7 banned accounts, one with a tarot card name.

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#1085

He was hinting at “alphamale” because he mentioned a ticket I made that he was sending me DMs of beheadings and super weird shit.

edit: citing i needed to enjoy that type of stuff to be super masculine

#1086

I dont know if your answer is addressed to me, but if it is… I know who he was hinting at and yet alphadude wasnt the starter of the rumour, he helped spread it though.

#1087

It matters when your opinion leads to widespread issues and when your opinion is objectively false, it’s just false. People love the whole “opinions can’t be wrong” argument, until you point out that the sky on a clear day is objectively, factually blue and thus the opinion that it is green is objectively false.

Likewise, Stark has a ton of Emperor’s scripting, and as we can see, @tomcat was actually referring to a very specific use case that can be resolved.

So, if an “expressed opinion” leads to more customers bombarding support afraid to “turn into a woman” when they run Stark, your opinion will be removed, as is our right as company owners.

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#1088

Sure, I’ll continue citing my opinions and you’re more than welcome to moderate them (it’s your company, your forum) I am merely here for the ride. :wine_glass:

#1089

I think the main issue with this feminine / masculine topic is that it’s not based on real life experiences.
I did not read a single review saying: “after running Stark I was more feminine and did this and this”.
What I read instead is a comparison with an ideal built by people in their mind, not anchored in reality: “I was expecting to be like Z, but it’s not like that, so then it must be X and Y”.

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#1090

@SaintSovereign can I ask you a question? Do you confuse me with Alphamale, whom you banned? :laughing:

#1091

Can’t you just drop it and move on … Like seriously drop it and let Saint and Fire concentrate on the developing the titles

This whole this has gotten way out of hand

#1092

Tag someone else. This isn’t on me at all :rofl:

#1093

Unfortunately, there comes a time when moderation may not be applicable and a much harder measure must be applied. To avoid that measure, future references to Stark as “feminine” or anything of that notion will first result in removal and following that, harder measures.

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#1094

It’s a learning experience for us all.

Can’t wait to read the updated sales page and run this with the upgraded scripting :smiley: really looking forward to that

#1096

I do not. I just didn’t realize that this individual promoted the “feminine” claim as much as he did until I looked.

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#1097

Exactly or maybe they are running it but aren’t taking actions towards what Stark is supposed to achieve. Like if your trying to build a bigger social circle or get a high paying job by using Stark then go out there and take action as people with got a results from it did.

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