Gonna put him on ignore he was entertaining at first however now he sounds like a broken record.
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Now does Stark really have people, namely girls approach you? Cuz I don’t know about big Uchiha but that’s perfect 
especially for me since while building something like Khan or PS in my subconscious to be able to approach whenever or wherever, I still really want that passive attraction, not just that but getting people and romantic candidates to drool and try their best to impress me:rofl:
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im pretty sure i saw a post by Saint where he said wanted and libertine where the best products for the type of attention you seem to want.
i have no experience with wanted but i have used libertine many times and in the nightlife it should have girls (and annoyingly men as well) approaching you.
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Stark does make girls approach you because you come across as a celebrity they want to get to know.
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Tired of reading this ! Logging out. 
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I really don’t see what’s so degrading about this post. This is his personal reality and he’s entitled to it. If it’s not yours and you want it to be, you can start working on it. If you don’t want it to be your reality then that’s fine, too, but let him have his reality. If you don’t believe that it could become your reality then it won’t. If it’s off topic or whatever, you can ignore it. If you don’t ignore it then you’re a contributor to the negativity you’re complaining about. You can flag it all you want, but be respectful about it. Once you flag it, it’s done. Let the owners of the forum decide how they believe it’s best to handle their own forum.
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@lrw - We don’t mind whatever Reality he has. The issue is when someone else explained that women looking at him felt like he hit the jackpot, MU says it isn’t and keeps on at it as if the original poster was wrong. He does this repeatedly with others and their viewpoints too. What’s his problem?
Know what? I don’t care what his problem is. Have put him on ignore.
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Pretty sure the big deal was over MU’s posts in general especially when he does exactly belittle people and point out that oh hey thats not a big deal ive had that since i was 14… everyone is different and gets different results we also all have different pasts. But to tell someone they shouldn’t feel like they hit the jackpot, and tell them that its over rated and all this other shit is unnecessary.
Fine to him its normal but it isn’t to a lot of other people and to tell those people that it really isn’t a big deal when they feel really good like they accomplished something is totally out of line. This forum is about lifting others up and not tearing them down. There is a total difference in lifting someone up and pushing them forward with new goals they can aim for and tearing them down and making them feel bad for feeling so good bc they hit a milestone in their life.
He could have went about it a totally different way and people wouldn’t have gotten upset about it.
If he wants to be rude in life good for him but keep it off the forum. This community is about helping people see their potential and drive them forward on their journeys.
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Hasn’t he been implying elsewhere he doesn’t rate himself as a legit 10 just because of a few inches missing in his height?
Did anyone come here claiming to be 7 foot tall since age 15 and how laughably overrated this whole obsession with height is?
i did NOT imply.
i have said that explicitly.
and i stand by that 100%.
i hesitate to rate myself above 8.5 despite legit male model face because in my experience only men above 6 foot 3 tall are 9+ in looks and im only 6 foot 1.
and no lol height is absolutely NOT overrated for male physical attractiveness, in fact its underrated.
muscle is super overrated when it comes to male physical attractiveness.
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I get what you’re saying. Most people who turn to subliminals do so because they want help, among other things. You’re not going to find that the majority of people on this forum had an amazing childhood or a life that they consider to be great. It’s just the reality. That means that you’re dealing with imperfect people who are not always going to uplift you. Sure, it’s great when they do, but some people don’t have that ability yet. Doesn’t mean that they will not some day, but right now, they’re not there yet. If a stranger on a public form gets under your skin, there is a reason why. It’s usually a personal reason that’s not even related to the other person.
He has said things to me that weren’t “nice”. Who cares? It doesn’t change anything in my world or in anybody else’s. Do I hold resentment or look down on him because of it and get offended by other posts he makes? No, why would I? He’s in his own journey and I’m on mine. None of this matters in the big scheme of things.
I get that there are evil, manipulative, worthless people on the internet that prey on people’s vulnerabilities. I don’t think that he’s one of those. Usually these type of people are so manipulative that their intent is not so obvious on the surface. You might think that they are your friend before you pick on the monsters that they really are.
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As someone who reads every day, but rarely writes, it’s just incredibly annoying. Being happy about seeing many updates on my core custom for 1+ years, clicking on it and then - oh, it’s just another MU derailment thread.
Agree that it’s up to the owners to decide whether they want this, but as a customer and grateful reader of this forum and the many amazing helpful, positive people on here, I can voice my opinion that I find it beyond annoying and useless.
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If everyone was honest, they would admit that there is something about their physical body that they are not satisfied about. You’re very technical. You might rate yourself as an 8.5, but you might be a ten in the eyes of others.
What I see here is that you are judging yourself harshly. I don’t see you judging others about their appearance. If they take offense that you’re taller than they are and still not satisfied, that ain’t your problem, man. They can always hit the ignore button.
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When you get excited to see almost 50 posts about Stark ZP, and in reality there are 2 or 3. It would be nice to have the official threads stricly moderated, so people don’t waste their time with posts unrelated to the product. That’s why we have personal journals.
As a summary of running Stark for the past 4 cycles, with a changing stack:
- you speak your mind freely, in a positive manner
- congnitive enhancements
- verbal fluency
- joyfull
- less interest in sex and women in general
- overshadowed by HOM from a relationship pov in the same stack: you choose your words, carefully, less free spirit
- overshadowed by Emperor in the same stack from an attitude pov: you lose a bit from Starks creativity and free thinking
StarkZP is my favorite ZP period and I’ll continue running stacks built around it.
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I think it’s one of the most versatile sub available to be honest
Want social ? Stark
Want some money idea? Stark
Want some popularity/attraction? Stark
Want some cognitive booster? Stark
Want to work more intensively? Stark
…
I’ll definitly give it a new go at some point
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Everyone agrees with you, but I think that it’s time that people rise up and start practicing what they’re preaching. If you guys want MU to be uplifting then why not only give him uplifting responses that will help him to grow in these areas? If he responds back in a way that causes people to get offended, then don’t respond back. Don’t say anything to him, unless you have something productive to say.
My apologies for taking a part in derailing the Stark thread. I’ve seen other people besides MU derail threads over and over again, and they were never complained about.
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Defo gives you more wit and clever things to say. I’ve entrapped people in verbal snares on Stark and they end up giving up against me. Got called “witty bastard” many times lol
All in good fun though
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No one is judging him by his height. Some might be sarcastic about it since he tends to downplay other people’s experiences and touts only his experiences as the real deal. And gives out certificates on which reviews are “good” and wish every review were like the “good” ones.
The forum is made of people of various heights, body sizes, wealth levels, etc. And we all get along just fine no matter what we say. Why? Because we know how to talk to each other instead of looking down our noses at someone else. Once in a while things get heated but it tones down pretty quick. Not the same with MU which is why it isn’t surprising why he was suspended before.
I don’t like putting people on ignore since I think I can learn from people no matter their personality type but this guy is the only one who has the priviledge of being on mine since he is consistently rude and doesn’t understand how to talk to people especially on a forum dedicated to growth.
He expects everyone to act his way or it isn’t “correct” but cannot empathise with other people who are on a different level than him.
Am not writing more since yes this thread is being derailed enough but I wanted to set things clear. Most of us on the forum don’t mind MU being who he is. It is just his own consistent lack of manners that puts us off.
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