Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 2)

[DarkPhilosopher]

@Simon

All files were played simultaneously.

[SaintSovereign]

No. There’s something seriously wrong with that man. To those who missed that long, rambling, incoherent mess of threats, assumptions and pure delusion, this individual actually threatened us with…

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CUTTING US OFF FROM HIS LOVE. And because he did that, @Fire and I will not be able to participate in the 5D ascension that occurs later this year and God will no longer love us. Because, y’know — he has that kinda authority over the infinite creator of the universe.

No! Not that. Anything, anything but that! Please, please don’t cut us off from your love.

He says I lied about his private messages, edited, and distorted them. Well, let’s ask the individual he was messaging if I did that in any way, shape or form? @AlexanderGraves — you were the one he was messaging. Did I mischaracterize him or his actions in any way?

Now, I really want you all to really think about his behavior. This is what happens when you focus on the expansive element without a restrictive element and vice versa.

As I said yesterday, the goal is balance. In this case, his so-called search for truth has evolved into a messiah complex because he neglected the restrictive element, that which applies grounding / downward pressure on the impulse to “become greater,” and eventually, that can evolve into megalomania.

He seems to think @fire and I are sitting around brooding and thinking of him all day, sending “negative energy.” I assure you all, after we posted our responses yesterday, we ordered some very delicious Jamaican food from DoorDash and stayed up to 4am working on titles, playing games and having some of the most heartfelt laughs without a care in the world. We never actually mentioned or thought of him again.

I hope that man can find peace, but it won’t be here, with us. You need to respect that, Hermit. An enlightened individual would respect our wishes and leave us alone.

To everyone else, stay focused on your growth. Do not allow lies to deter you or stand in your way. Remember, this stuff didn’t start happening until we released Zero Point. Now all sorts of characters are coming out of the woodworks and attacking us, claiming that they’re doing it for some moral good.

At SubClub, we believe in choice. We always will. If you choose to follow those people, it’s your divine right to do so. But I would urge you to stay focused and find you own way, and find your own balance.

This is the last time we’ll ever post about this individual. If he posts again, please do not engage and just flag the post.

[Simon]

@DarkPhilosopher, my logic back then…

@Simon

I’ve ample experience with playing up to 5 Q files simultaneously, with measurable effects. Had to do it back when I couldn’t run Qs for more than a couple hours a day.

In my subjective logic, 3-5 Qs are no more dense than a Terminus Custom.

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I like to think that us ENTP experimenters contribute in our own silly way to the tech upgrades.

ZP can be built at Terminus Squared level because some of us dared to test how far we can go without getting headaches.

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PS: Anyone who thinks I won’t confront the founders or mods … doesn’t know my past.

[Fractal_Explorer]

@SaintSovereign

CUTTING US OFF FROM HIS LOVE. And because he did that, @Fire and I will not be able to participate in the 5D ascension that occurs later this year and God will no longer love us. Because, y’know — he has that kinda authority over the infinite creator of the universe.

Lmao 5D ascension has been promised since the late 90s.

There’s always someone being like “just you wait guys its right around the corner!”

[Simon]

@DarkPhilosopher

if it’s possible to actually change personality type through subs or by working on certain areas of our lives?

There’s a pretty successful book titled “Personality Isn’t Permanent” by Benjamin Hardy.

I haven’t read it though.

[DarkPhilosopher]

@Simon

I haven’t read it though.

Your personality type doesn’t like reading and is waiting for the movie?

It’s tricky though. I know that 16Personalities offers exercises to compensate for the challenges inherent in the personality types. And I think that with practice you can demonstrate traits from every personality.

I guess I’m wondering if it is possible to make them “natural” as in they just become who you are effortlessly and if you do the test a year later it actually has a different result.

Or will it always take a certain amount of mental effort to demonstrate personality traits which are of a different personality? Will you always be “faking” it?

[SubliminalUser]

I have changed personality types since I first took the test a decade ago. However this took a LOT of effort and was by no means easy. I did not have the goal to change letters, but rather had some other social goals and in the process of working on those, changed here.

[King]

@DarkPhilosopher

I guess I’m wondering if it is possible to make them “natural” as in they just become who you are effortlessly and if you do the test a year later it actually has a different result.

Or will it always take a certain amount of mental effort to demonstrate personality traits which are of a different personality? Will you always be “faking” it?

You can ask Heath Ledger…

[DarkPhilosopher]

@King

You can ask Heath Ledger

Not until I see dead people.

EDIT:
Do you mean that he tried but ended up on the prescription medication because it took too much out of him and he couldn’t handle it? If that’s not what you meant I don’t quite understand what you meant.

[Simon]

@DarkPhilosopher

Your personality type doesn’t like reading and is waiting for the movie?

Movies … as YT interviews … do exist.

You’re correct that I prefer Visuals – Charts, Sketches, etc.
Gary Keller’s The One Thing was perfect.

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@DarkPhilosopher

I think that with practice you can demonstrate traits from every personality.

Yes. The 8 Cognitive Functions are …
Skills that can be practiced, or
Tools that can be invoked.

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There was a time when I was jealous of the more productive types. I thought I would’ve love to be an ENTJ instead of ENTP.
(No, thats not one letter change … it’s almost a complete opposite.)

Now, I’d rather invest in solving “How to succeed as my personality” instead of “How to change my personality.”

[DarkPhilosopher]

@Simon

You’re correct that I prefer Visuals – Charts, Sketches, etc.
Gary Keller’s The One Thing was perfect.

I admit I do like:

The 48 Laws of Power (Animated)

which I found after PCC came out (has that one been ZP’d yet?)

Law #4 always makes me laugh.

@Simon

Now, I’d rather invest in solving “How to succeed as my personality” instead of “How to change my personality.”

That’s a similar approach to what that online part of 16Personalities claims to do. Make the most of your personality type while overcoming its shortcomings.

In the end, if we are who we want to be it doesn’t really matter what our personality type is I suppose. But if you work with the personality type you have you might get there a bit faster.

[King]

Was just using him as an example of a famous method actor. Or maybe I should have said Robert de Niro.

Anyway, I have always been impressed by the ability of a method actor to take on the personality a character that is foreign to him. Perhaps those are very talented don’t have to put in much effort.

[DarkPhilosopher]

@King

Was just using him as an example of a famous method actor. Or maybe I should have said Robert de Niro.

Anyway, I have always been impressed by the ability of a method actor to take on the personality a character that is foreign to him. Perhaps those are very talented don’t have to put in much effort.

Surprised you didn’t name Anthony Hopkins. I read the stories about him when he was preparing to play Hannibal Lecter. Eating raw meat is one thing, but his own family got scared of him at some point because he remained in character. I can only imagine what might have happened if that had become part of his permanent personality.

[AlexanderGraves]

@Fractal_Explorer

Lmao 5D ascension has been promised since the late 90s.

There’s always someone being like “just you wait guys its right around the corner!”

Let’s not start this discussion please

@SaintSovereign

He says I lied about his private messages, edited, and distorted them. Well, let’s ask the individual he was messaging if I did that in any way, shape or form? @AlexSQ — you were the one he was messaging. Did I mischaracterize him or his actions in any way?

Nope, it’s all correct. Last time you asked me to confirm the messages he sent me and I did.
He sent me messages again this time, seems a bit more understanding but idk. Still a lot to solve for him, THAT’S for sure.

Either way, I hold no grudges and I told him to just show YOUR perspective which is why I answered. Still, he shifted the blame onto something else

@SaintSovereign

Now, I really want you all to really think about his behavior. This is what happens when you focus on the expansive element without a restrictive element and vice versa.

See it as a manifestation to explain the concept better

[King]

In some countries in the world, healthcare costs are so high and medical insurance is expensive. More money is always helpful when it comes to medical treatment.

And it is not just the people with unhealthy lifestyles who have medical problems.

There are medical problems that perfectly healthy people will suddenly face.

Having said that, it is a blessing if one is in good health and doesn’t have to bother about medical expenses.

Often, that can’t be bought with money.

[sid]

@DarkPhilosopher

can only imagine what might have happened if that had become part of his permanent personality.

Sorry that I am not willing now to write about my experience clearly but I did that before in a semi professional way . I acted a role a complete opposite to me .

@King

a character that is foreign to him

resulted from this :

1. I still have access to this role (way of speaking, emotions, behaviours , etc
2. this made me a big believer in (physicalize or acting as if or acting in front of a mirror and watching documentaries for pepole I want to imitate ) edit: I learned about this later at the time I was not aware of any thing related to (energy and LOA)
3. personality is a fluid not static .
4. the mirror of life gradually changed to copy the flair of this reality
   (This from long time ago ) this one of the incidents the evoked my curiosity in (mind power , Law of attraction , energy Etc)

[Budewr]

@Matrix

This is amazing. I like this schedule.
I see I was not able to think out of the box to make a subliminal listening routine. I was somehow arranging my stacks in between 7 days. But I see I can use two different weeks in two different ways lollll

im not sure yet if its still safe exposure or not

@SaintSovereign what do you think?

like 1 week 2 zp titles

next week add one more title in total of 3 zp tiltes and repeat the schedule

[HansLanda]

@Lion

Have you run RM anytime? It has a very strong empathy component which boosts the INFJ empathy while at the same time helps us to be not overwhelmed by it. I even experienced this when I used to run RM.

No, I didn’t. Honestly, I somehow overlooked that title, I would guess its name sounded too artistic, idk. The truth is that I didn’t look for an major/alpha title until a month ago or so. I was so busy trying to improve my lacking areas to say so atm. (women and seduction), so I built my stack around that. I realized recently that it wasn’t the best idea as I don’t progress at a speed that I want to, so I am trying to build more balancing stack now.

@SaintSovereign

But, if I HAD to choose for an unnamed INFJ who just wants to enhance their life, I’d go with (and it’s going to seem weird, but I think the INFJs will understand):

Expansive: Chosen (NOT Chosen from Within)
Restrictive: Emperor
Balance: Renaissance Man or Stark

Yup, during my road of self discovery (which btw seems to have enhanced by the ZP in the recent weeks), I thought about all of that subs to be good fit for me (except RM). I recognized Chosen to be awesome fit the moment I read the description, but given that in my job I am not in leadership position, I decided to skip it for a while (although I know there would be other benefits). I was debating between Emperor and Stark about which one to run next cycle and for the next few months (I am sure running both of them along with Wanted would be really to much for me) and decided it will be Stark. I don’t know in what category I would put Wanted, though.

Thanks, @SaintSovereign !

[Invictus]

Oh yeah, I don’t think I’ve mentioned this anywhere yet, but regarding the “permanency” of results:

I’ve had an issue since forever that limited me from eating enough, even with my intense workouts, it seemed like a mission impossible to eat enough, which is also why I’ve been able to deadlift 180kg in the past, but never really going above 70kg naturally, until WANTED was released.

Fast forward to the private test, I mentioned it multiple times that only WANTED is able to help me eat, and @SaintSovereign told me at the time that the reason for my appetite being higher is due to the physical shifting tech, so I thought to myself “shit, if I removed WZP from my stack, then my hunger will disappear with it”, which kinda started some overthinking in me, but it is also one of the reasons I ran WANTED for so long.

Well, it’s been over a cycle without it, and my hunger never left

So why am I saying this, well, 2 reasons:

1- this shows that the baseline you reach at the end of a cycle, or at the end of your run of the sub, will stay with you (I didn’t mention the attraction stuff, cause Stark has that effect too, in a way).

2- @SaintSovereign i don’t think that my hunger only went up due to the physical shifting tech of WZP, I think it fixed a hormonal issue that I wasn’t even aware of .

[aaa]

And for Te Si Ne Fi(estj)?