Main Disc. Thread: Paragon Complete Ultima (Formerly Primarch Complete)

[Extraordinaire]

Paragon makes my appetite go through the roof. A good sign I’d say

[ggplex]

I was browsing the forum trying to find what title I should go for next and happened to find paragon ultima- played a loop and within a few minutes felt some pain in my eyes and I can’t explain this but I already can see better. I have astigmatism and I wouldn’t say it’s completely cleared away but I can see alot better, definitely didn’t expect results this fast. I can’t wait to start healing the other parts of myself that need healing.

[Fire]

@Extraordinaire

1.Does paragon strengthen organs and body systems in addition to healing? Ex. Helps heal a broken bone, fortifies bone to be stronger from future breakage.

Pretty sure that’s a natural process of the human body, so yes.

@Extraordinaire

Does paragon intertwine with the sps series like organs, endocrine etc.

Different scripting, similar effect but on a more holistic, whole body scale.

[Fire]

@ggplex

I was browsing the forum trying to find what title I should go for next and happened to find paragon ultima- played a loop and within a few minutes felt some pain in my eyes and I can’t explain this but I already can see better. I have astigmatism and I wouldn’t say it’s completely cleared away but I can see alot better, definitely didn’t expect results this fast. I can’t wait to start healing the other parts of myself that need healing.

Good stuff. Remember to take it easy, fuel yourself and give yourself time. Physical shifting is a long process.

[RVconsultant]

@ggplex

paragon ultima

Ultima is an older technology. You could check your account to get the most recent ZP version.

[Carsmones]

With the Synergy… all of these can be added, I am ordering Paragon Complete today but my custom next week will have all of them.

[Parsifal]

I was looking for results from PC and went through the thread so I decided to just make a post to collect all the results I found.

@Avengers68

I just finished 2 loops and my stiff neck is already better, no more pain. So I suppose that it works on muscles. Very good for relaxing also

@ALMIGHTY

Anyways, Paragon works, I can already feel it one loop in.

@ALMIGHTY

So far let’s say: energy moving in the body, warming up parts that were cold, muscles relaxing/vibrating, etc!

@SaintSovereign

The script is written in a manner that your subconscious instructs the body to heal what needs to be healed. It’s a beautiful piece of work.

@Avengers68

My wife has much less painful menstruation since she is listening to it. In fact she was even reporting no pain at all 2 days ago. It is the first time in her life to have no pain during this period

@SaintSovereign

Yes, I feel incredible and I mentioned in another thread that Paragon has enhanced my sexual performance. That being said, I did take Clomid at one point, which might’ve kickstarted my natural hormone production again. I feel it’s Paragon, though.

@rajeshwer

Oh the sub is pushing me to walk again .
I used to walk 5 miles every day before corona but then things changed now I found myself walking again all of sudden .
There must be some scripting in it .
Also I don’t feel like eating at night and I am eating more healthy , also craving for food is gone .

@BLACKICE

I’ve got a migraine today, looking forward to this sub!

edit: Just bought Paragon complete…

Didn’t even get halfway through, migraine is nearly completely gone.

@James

I can’t prove it obviously but it does seem like my hearing has gotten a bit better since running Paragon

@BLACKICE

I did 2 loops today, and I feel quite good! I started listening because I had a migraine that neither Advil or strong coffee had touched. I felt a bit groggy, and then the migraine just sort of melted away about 20 minutes into the first loop.

@SaintSovereign

I’m nearsighted and I haven’t seen any improvements due to Paragon. Other issues I’ve had, such as chronic painful gastritis IS alleviating though.

@Phoermes

Hmm… it’s been about 14 minutes and I’m getting blood flow down there, without any erotic stimulation around. Now this is promising

@rajeshwer

There is much relief in my elbow, it still feels cold while listening to this sub .

@Phoermes

My breathing feels better. I’d usually wear one of them nasal strips. However, yesterday I fell asleep without one and my sleep was great. (Deviated septum)

Furthermore, today, I went through the whole day without one, I found myself less inclined to crack the windows for airflow as I am breathing without effort. The air is flowing through the nasal passage.

@Rev

This release came at a real opportune time for me to test.

I’ve suffered with severe cystic acne for over 10 years. The condition has gradually improved in the last year particularly since I began using Sub Club products, however I’ve recently had a bad flare-up on the back of my neck which can be quite debilitating due to its location (pain, reduced mobility, trouble sleeping, can’t drive etc) so I decided to give Paragon a try.

I’ve been running it one loop in the evening, 5 days on, 2 days off since 05 Jan and the cyst has significantly reduced in size already. These flare-ups have lasted a minimum of 2-3 weeks in the past - usually much longer.

I wouldn’t like to horrify anyone with pictures but the cyst has went from an aggressive, painful and inflamed 3-4cm diameter, to a nearly dormant 1.5cm within approx 12 days.

It might seem trivial compared to more serious issues others may be facing, but after going to doctors/dermatologists for years with no significant results, this is an absolute game changer for me. Will definitely be running this for the long-term after this result.

@Leandros

This is just great.
I had slight asthma since a little child.
I wantet to treat this in peru but yesterday before bed I played the first loop of Paragon.
I stop breathing 4 times for 10 seconds then after 30 minutes I fall asleep.
Today I woke up and had tears in my eyes.
No more muscular pressure and I CAN BREATHE
Normally

@PurpleRT73

So I’m impressed and content to report that Paragon Complete DOES calm down the itchiness and irritation in my skin. Yesterday my left shoulder was a bit irritated, after the first loop the annoying sensations subsided and felt similar when I moisturize my skin.

Today morning, shoulder is way better, no longer feel mild pain when touching it.
Finally, a way to solve my chronic issue arrived!

@PurpleRT73

My shoulder’s a bit dry but no longer sore and itchy! This title works way better than Hydrocortisone!
Man, years of using a cream with that component and this works similar but even quicker.
Yesterday I ran another loop and fell into deep sleep. Skin’s better now.

@PurpleRT73

Oh, gave a copy for my mother too since she’s having problems every Sunday with waking up with pain all over her body for months now, this was so useful, left my review on Paragon’s product page.

Relief’s so quick, it’s heartwarming to see her smile without any trace of pain and now happiness.
Only two loops last night and she’s rejuvenated and content, told me to leave her testimony on the site this morning.

@TheGreenMan

I’ve a house-dust allergy, after 6-8 hours handling antiquarian books I’m normally very tired & breathing is a bit more difficult in the evening, especially in winter (due to dry, heated air).

It got better during the last week, since yesterday I don’t feel the allergy at all.

@Rev

Just a quick update. My neck is back to a relatively normal state. All within three weeks. Any lingering pain is now alleviated by about 30 mins into my first loop of the day. I upped my loops to 2-3 per day for the previous week.

On top of this, I feel as though I have a heightened sense of clarity. I have noticed a reduced need or desire for caffeine (tea and coffee) and eating junk/midnight snacks - I want to eat more fruit instead I have also started going for walks again with my other half.

I would say this is also most likely due to Paragon, however I feel it might also be a little breakthrough from some healing modules in my custom. I feel that Paragon is interacting with my custom in a powerful way.

Like I said, this problem would normally have me out of action for at least 3-4 weeks in the past, and that’s not including another potential two weeks recovery. I am still doing the same hygiene/skin routine and haven’t changed diet or supplement usage. Therefore I can only attribute this speedy healing to Paragon… not that I really needed any convincing anyway

@SaintSovereign

Complete and total healing of bad gastritis that I’ve fighting for almost two years. Complete and total healing of peripheral neuropathy that came from a bad reaction to an allergy drug. Incredible sleep quality, which I measured with the Pillow app. I love this sub, will be a permanent mainstay for quite some time.

@lrw

Two positives that I have noticed recently. The first is that I am very in tune with what my body needs in a positive way. I am more connected with my physiology. I knew at the exact moment when a small illness left my body, and that has never happened before. The second positive is that I can see the results of my body absorbing nutrients more efficiently and much faster.

@Gemstone

Paragon gives a rejuvenated feeling and better sleep.

@RVconsultant

I think it has helped my sleep. Am I sleeping better when I play Paragon Complete Ultima just before sleep? Yes.

@Phoermes

Peaceful, serene top-quality sleep, with minimal twisting and turning at night with a fresh awakening is the first thing I noticed. Something akin to higher doses of Melatonin, or well, morphine.

@Lion

It cured the common cold for me around 2 or 3 different times.

@Jouissance

I’ve used it to recover from Covid with incredible success, any time I have ANY type of sickness, I listen to paragon and feel significantly better the next day.

In conjunction with Dragon Reborn, I’ve also mostly eliminated a gluten allergy I’ve had for a long time.

I used to not even be able to have one bite of pizza, lest I suffer the wrath of 3-5 days of extreme depression, to say the least.

Now, if I eat a whole pizza, I might have a stomach ache and a tiny bit of fatigue, at most.

I still avoid gluten, because I know my body can’t REALLY handle it, but I went from extreme symptoms after tiny exposures to being able to eat whole boxes of pizza with only mild discomfort the immediate day after, and no discomfort 2 days after

@ggplex

I can’t explain this but I already can see better. I have astigmatism and I wouldn’t say it’s completely cleared away but I can see alot better, definitely didn’t expect results this fast.

@Judoka

It also helped heal my asthma and reduced spots on my chest

And more from the experimental ZP thread

@Avengers68

I had a painful neck for 4 days already, it disappeared totally after 15 minutes of Paragon X I did not have results with the original Paragon !

@bujin

A minor infection in my finger started up around the nail, it was pretty minor most of the day so I ignored it figuring it would fade on its own. But in the evening the pain and swelling in the finger increased dramatically until it was rather uncomfortable. So I ran a loop of Paragon, and within minutes the pain started noticeably going down. By the end of the loop the pain was reduced about 70% or so. And by the time I went to bed a couple of hours later the pain was about 95% gone.

This morning there was no pain unless I put pressure on the finger, and now the infection is almost completely gone, just a mild discomfort when I squeeze the finger. So yeah, a nice little result.

@Detective L's Paragon Journal

So here I summarize my results running Paragon Solo:

• Breathing: I have a deviated nasal septum so breathing has always been hard more so during illness like common cold for example. But Since my first loop the biggest result I have got is that my breathing improved to the point I thought was impossible. I am again able to do Pranayam which I had stopped because of how much effort breathing itself took.
• Meditation: A rather suprising result I got is that I am able to do my meditation longer without any body pain. It is shocking really, how just having a stronger body can do for your meditation practice.
• Inner Organs: For a long time I have had a feeling that my inner organs seem “tired” if that makes any sense, which in turn affected my overall productivity and day. Paragon healed this since my first loop.
• Sleep: Since a few months back, my sleep cycle had been messed up to such an extent that I couldn’t sleep at night no matter how hard I tried and I couldn’t stay awake during the day no matter how hard I tried. But within a week or so Paragon fixed this.
• Old Injuries: Like any normal person I have a lot of minor injuries that happen during the course of life and heal. But in my case, some of these injuries had a pain resurgence for no reason at all since last 2-3 months. Paragon fixed those too.
• Energy: I am not sure whether to attribute this to Paragon but while traveling to somewhere like another town in the summer heat we have is hard(to put it mildly). Yet I was able to do that quite easily.
• Exercise Recovery: First of all because of all the things listed above I was able to start exercising. And secondly Paragon really helped with recovery after a session.
• Immune System: My immune system has improved a lot.

@Detective_L

Had an unexpected sore throat last night, did 1 loop of Paragon. All gone in the morning.

For completeness, a link to the current thread with the more up to date results.

Main Disc. Thread - Paragon ZP

Last thread to collect results And some more

[Judoka]

It also helped heal my asthma and reduced spots on my chest

[SoulFire]

@Parsifal

Did you also check this thread?

Main Disc. Thread - Paragon Complete Experimental ZP

Already available in “My Downloads.” As with the other ZP experimentals, there are no special instructions, run this like you would any other Zero Point title. Try not to mix the Experimental with the Major Title, however – choose one or the other. And it now it begins. The first prototype of what we believe will open the door for us to create all kinds of new products. Until we get some feedback, I want to remain a bit quiet on what to expect from this version. The objectives of the script ar…

[Judoka]

If @SaintSovereign or @Fire is going to upgrade paragon i suggest they look into buteyko breathing for some ideas,would be very useful

[RockyHandsome]

Paragon works to eliminate recon and stess.its unbelievable . I think its more then just a healing sub.

[anon34983076]

Stress is also part of a health system. Sympathetic and parasympathetic system. So why not.

[RockyHandsome]

Your clever you are correct.

[RockyHandsome]

The plan is to incorporate the paragon core into my existing custom anti aging custom nicked name “The Fury” I will call the new version “The Cure”.

[Golgo13]

Was wondering if you still get cystic acne, especially since the transfer to ZP products since they’re more potent. Or has Paragon fixed the problem?

[Rev]

I’m happy to report that I no longer suffer from cystic acne.

I ran Paragon on and off to help with flare-ups, which it did in the short-term, but what really “cured” my acne was when I got a less stressful job and started to hit the gym - I believe it was my entire sub stack that led me to those changes.

I’ve been strength training for minimum 3/4 days per week since Oct 2021 and got a less stressful job in Nov 2021. My last flare-up was Sept 2021. Currently this is the longest period I have ever gone without a flare-up (crazy to think about, on reflection!).

I’m not saying that changing jobs or going to the gym will magically cure everything, but it was certainly one more piece of the puzzle towards clearing up my acne, in addition to evolving my mindset using subs (I think I was primarily running OG Dragon Reborn, Paragon + a custom most of 2021).

[Golgo13]

That’s awesome to hear. Happy for you. Do you run any ZP subs? I tend to break out on ZP, but since you haven’t had that problem I guess either they work ok for you or you don’t run them.

[Rev]

Thanks man! I assume you’re talking about ZP vs Q? But yeah I’m always running the most up-to-date sub tech. Been running ZP titles since they were first released.

I can’t say I noticed a difference with my acne between technologies though. Some titles (both old/new tech) affected it worse than others, but that was more than likely related to any resistance or recon that the title was generating within me personally which manifested in flare ups.

Have you figured out if it’s definitely the tech vs title? Have you tried running the same title on its own for a week or two, separately in Q vs ZP?

Personally ZP was a total upgrade in every way for me. If your break-outs are happening with ZP scripting specifically, maybe it’s trying to bring something to your attention and you need to either power through or dial back the listening time and sub stack… of course I have no idea how debilitating your acne is, so only you can decide on that.

[Golgo13]

I’m pretty sure it’s the tech and not the title, specifically ZP V2, as I’ve gotten breakouts on different titles. I got really bad cystic acne with Dragon Reborn ZP at 15 minute loops. This is way before the microloops were suggested so that information would have really been helpful then.

I haven’t run subs for a week or 2 and I’m still getting cystic acne if I don’t get enough sleep from waking up to pee and not being able to fall back asleep.

I’m goin to run Paragon only when my acne clears up at very small increments. Maybe 15 second loop increase each go round.

Thanks for the feedback.

[Starman]

It just sounds like releasing tbh. I got an itchy upper back while on DR. It’s the junk surfacing to be let go of.