Main Disc. Thread - Khan ZP

Bro you definitly need to start working out soon and get that edgyness out of your system :eyes:

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I’m still working out, it’s just not the same as punching, kicking, knee and elbowing things though :sweat_smile:

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That’s the part I remember :eyes: It’s not the same! Keep going your body’s gonna heal and you’llcbe able to push through!

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you are correct.

i have definitely oversimplified things and you are right that it can sometimes backfire and give you a desperate vibe.

but overall at least for me i find high sexual energy to be insanely underrated for success with women.

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I friend recommended i go back to stage 3 because I only listened to stage 3 zp for a week before moving to stage zp. Am I missing something?

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Right, so I’m curious now…

Show me in my post where I said this:

Exactly… It’s alright though. The reason you’re using quotes, is key here because that means you’re interpreting.

This is also exactly what I’m referring to, how clueless our men are in this society.

You associate being socially competent, having high EQ and strong interpersonal skills as behaving in a “fake politically correct way”.

If you think I’m anywhere near being “fake political correct”, then you obviously haven’t seen some of my posts on this forum and how brutal they are.

You have a conflated understanding due to distortion and that is going to hold you back.

Do you understand what I’m saying here?

Do you know why real congruent masculinity is nearly non-existent in our society?

Strong men are a threat to the established order of things. We’re targeted not just through estrogens in our diet, but mentally and psychologically as well.
Through our belief systems and through programming.

The real redpill is that what you think is redpill is actually the exact bluepill that they want you to have.

This is why, young men I’ve encountered who are heavily into redpill shit have absurdly low self worth and are walking around emotionally traumatized half the time.
So many of them hate themselves and they hate women.

Listen very carefully to what I’m about to tell you.

Masculinity or what people think “Alpha Male” is all about, is not just removed.
It’s also distorted so that it’s difficult to find.

If you don’t want something, you don’t just remove it. You make it more difficult for it to come back.
You warp it and distort the meaning of it, so men don’t even know what to get back to.

Now people will avoid the importance of basic leadership skills, because “Oh no I’m becoming [betamale/weak/emotional/politically correct]”.

It’s the same shit with simping. Now men are afraid to express true desire for women they are attracted to because “Oh no, I don’t want to be a simp”.

Then their circlejerk group of male friends makes fun of them “stop being a simp”. This is the type of stuff that makes men even more lost.

There’s so much stuff like this.

It’s so bad, that men are living life and moderating their expression through the fear of embodying what’s not ideal.
Read that twice. Maybe even thrice, lol.

They think they have the upper hand and are “redpilled” but they don’t and aren’t. There’s zero congruence.

This type of stuff happens when you get access to information without your subconscious beliefs being on board.

The information gets interpreted through a perceptual filter and your retainment and integration of that knowledge can inhibit you more than it grows you.

Anyways, don’t box yourself in.

It’s your choice however, and it’s completely fine, even if nothing I’m saying registers.
Because, oh my friend… Lol
Khan is going to annihilate you and remove all the nonsense that you or anyone has learned…

It’s going to snap you in half and really make you a congruent, alpha male. There is no escape and nowhere to run.

This is the most comprehensive Alpha Male program at subliminal club.

When that introspection hits and you get emotional recon, just remember… You wanted to be a Khan.
That’s all I’m saying, lol.

I’m not telling you to not express yourself or sugarcoat things. That’s not what I’m saying or even remotely suggesting.

I’m not telling you to change your communication purely for the sake of not offending anyone, I don’t even believe in that myself.

It’s all about the goal and what is the best method. What adds to Growth? What adds to Learning?
Certain methods of communication don’t accomplish or offer anything.

Leaders know who to talk to and how to talk to them for the greatest good of them, themselves and others.

Naturally elevating and progressive.

Now that might be an unattractive concept to you because people who score high in SDO like to see things in a “dog eat dog” perspective of levels and power dynamics.

By the way, something to be aware of (not saying this applies to you) but a lot of narcissism, superiority complex and fragile sense of worth like to hide behind those types of paradigms. They are extremely attractive.

Any type of exaggerated obsession with that kind of stuff, is not normal.

Now let’s examine some other statements that you’ve made.

I used to be all into social dynamics and redpill. That’s the same crap that prevents you from manifesting the magic… After all, you are a creator and your thoughts and beliefs, create. If you disagree then you simply have yet to realize how powerful you are.

When I let go of some of that stuff, I began to see more success with women and my social status increased in multiple areas of life.

You can believe whatever you want and you can even shit on my ideas too… By all means, it’s totally fine. I just offer a different perspective.

Lol

I hear you…I guess I’m going to fail miserably with women then, eh?
Man that sucks… Oh well.

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Where did you learn all of this from?

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jaguar wanted a fight and Luther said “challenge f**king accepted”, by God.

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I’m a big believer in accountability. So I just read another post you made where you said that your “approach game was non existent” before ps zp. I’m pretty sure you are an older guy (since you mentioned something about young guys being insecure) probably broke up with your wife or girlfriend and you strated gaming again. Your claims about me are basically that I’m a young and insecure man who thinks that tactics can be used to pickup girls and therefore that I don’t have experience.

And all those people liking your post proving you right and giving you validation and dopamine hits. I’m not a beginner in game, I’m not young and I’m not insecure or try tactics to pick up girls. In fact, I 've been gaming for many years now, I’m a veteran with a ton of experience, been with many girls (too many, not necessarily a good thing). I have even coached clients for a while and hangout/game with many coaches regularly. So as you understand, your assumptions about me where not right. I mean I knew right away what’s up, since you couldn’t read vkluff by the way he was writing.

The only thing you are doing right is whenever you get triggered and wanna lower someone in the eyes of the forum, you start writing big essays (yes, I’ve seen your other posts) and you sneakily try to lower them and make false assumptions about them hoping that they will not pay attention and will focus on the other things you write. I’ve seen multiple posts of you doing this and some members complaining about those false assumptions.

Although I got to say congrats for pushing yourself and going out there and talking to girls. Not many guys your age have the guts to do that. And I’m guessing that has given you quite a boost in your confidence/ego but that doesn’t make you better than anyone else here.

You don’t see me going around the forum and start flexing about my experience in game, making assumptions, putting people down if they don’t have experience and having an ego, writing long posts trying to battle with other members. So PLEASE in the future DO NOT make those kind of posts to attack any other member and BE MORE HUMBLE.

As for all of you that run to like his post quickly, because you thought he has authority and credibility because he writes long posts analysing many things and he LOOKS like he’s got knowledge, i just wanna tell you that you are boosting his ego and letting him get away with this behaviour. Check yourselves because as it seems you don’t understand what he is doing. Anyone can fabricate an awesome image of himself on a forum if no one knows him in real life.

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You didn’t respond to any of the points he made. Instead, you insulted him and the board members who agreed. We don’t do that here at SubClub. You are more than welcome to argue your position, but leave the personal attacks out of it.

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Yeah I’m not nice when arguing. Sorry, is it better now?

You don’t think this is a reply to what he was saying about me? I summarised his main argument since otherwise I would have to copy his whole post

Please do me a favor and read this post like 100 times.

Everyone else read it too…
Drill it into your skulls, lol.

All this “ego” and “validation” crap doesn’t apply here.
I’m not in that realm and we need to stop operating in that realm if we are to start Growing.

Your obsession with likes = projecting.

It’s very good that you’re aware of that, but it’s not the end all be all.

Once your identity has reached a certain level of internal self love and self worth, you won’t be as affected by social media hijacking of your reward system.

If I, or anyone for that matter were to allow Likes to inflate my ego and self worth then I wouldn’t be congruent and would be slowing down my own growth.

If you think that slowing down my own growth is something that I’m interested in doing, then you have zero clue about who I am or what I stand for.

Reading all of my posts in this forum can shed some light on that.

Now you might suggest that I can’t avoid the mechanism of social media Likes as it’s subconscious and hijacking something that’s hardwired… and you’d be correct.

It still has an effect because it’s unavoidable (this is why I stay away from social media and encourage others to do so) and this is also why I hardly participate in that paradigm here → click on my profile and see how very little amount of posts I’ve liked on here compared to how many I’ve read.

I am the type of person that closely monitors my emotional state when having discussions with people on here and I also monitor my emotional state when I get notifications.

If I’m not satisfied, then I journal and consciously guide my subliminals to address whatever it is that I’m hiding or suppressing. You are not as obsessed as me when it comes to growth, lol. That is why I have the results that I do… it’s because I’m completely transparent and honest with myself.

Anyways, start focusing on the actual information and message.
All of this “likes”, “validation”, “ego”… it’s like you’re wearing those powerdynamic redpill glasses 24/7.
Give your eyes a rest or you’re going to turn into a Red Pill, lol.

Insulting the people on this forum was a very poor move…
Not only are you just completely incorrect from a logical standpoint, but being that blatantly incorrect gives less authenticity to your message.

The people on this forum aren’t your typical people…
Based upon what I’ve read here, they are no stranger to power dynamics, social media manipulation, redpill and social hierarchy, etc.

They have a higher than average introspective intelligence because of their experience in using subliminals.

Don’t forget that Subliminal Club also has products like Quantum Limitless, StarkQ, Emperor, Emperor HOM, Power Can Corrupt, etc which people use on the daily…

Now let me ask you a serious question.
Do you really think the people here (of all places) are turning their logical brains off and just reading and liking shit?

To say that, would be downplaying the effectiveness of Subliminal Club’s products…
Not only would that be unwise but it would make absolute zero sense because then why are you even here?.. lol

If this was some type of challenge nonsense then you pretty much cornered yourself and got massacred, but it’s not… So recalibrate your ego if it makes you feel better.
You’re not being attacked.

All that challenge bullshit is not for this forum, save that stuff for the real world where you can actually gain something…
Use Power Can Corrupt with Khan and build your status.

Nobody gives a f*ck about status in a forum… You have got to be kidding me, lol.
I have zero authority here, not even perceived authority.
The only authority on this forum is Saint, Fire and the 2 moderators…
Everyone else is just a customer.

Go out and do all that challenge, status amogging shit with others and then report back here.
Our job is to get results and help each other to the best of our ability.

If you’re running Khan then it’s probably going to help you with stuff like this as it’s heavy on social dominance and status.

This whole thing is a not a debate or a “battle”. It’s not a “challenge” and you guys need to stop interpreting it like that.

These side remarks of “so and so tried to fight and challenge was accepted”… we should be way beyond that.

Like I said, this forum is going to look very different in a year or 2 as people get cracked in half and develop congruence.

This was a co-created educational discussion. All you did was toss me an alley-oop… pat yourself on the back.

You need to understand why you and everyone else in the forum is here.
We’re all here to Learn and Grow.

Your ego took a hit, I understand… but it shouldn’t have.
You should never feel cornered here, we’re on the same side.

Nobody is going to judge you because of how you came across or appeared in an exchange or whatever… People here are way to busy judging themselves through ZP introspection, lol.

Keep it going, this discussion is over

Nobody like this post

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I’m already forgetting what this discussion was about.

From what I remember, it was “six blind men and an elephant” situation.

Each poster was correct but incomplete, and I expected them to connect the pieces together soon.

Start over guys.

Focus on the elephant, not the other person’s blindness.

:hugs:


Does a dominant leader require or not require any people skills?
Does he network? inspire? seduce? delegate? motivate?

Is social calibration really a subset of political correctness, or the other way around?
Or are they unrelated?

Is Khan just a forceful beast, or a master of persuasion skills?
Or is it unique to each man’s vision of himself?

Could the term “social dynamics” mean something different to other people, than what it does to you?
How about the term “red pill”?

:thinking:

:wink:

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You can’t tell me what to do!

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You know, every post in the discussion I was having mentions Khan and ties into the benefits of Khan,.

You’re giving me an alley-oop, but it offers nothing to the Khan thread.

I recommend that you or anyone else, to first think before opening a pathway of discussion on the threads here.

Always be mindful that there is a larger audience.
It’s easy to tunnel vision and go off on unrelated tangents.

But that’s a question one has to ask themselves… why is it so easy to sacrifice the bigger picture?

You have to learn how to have that focus while also acknowledging the bigger picture such as where you are, where your posting, who’s reading this, what is the potential value that this can offer, how does this help the company and creators whose products I am investing time and money into etc…

If I were to entertain the discussion then it would end up going back and forth in a way that’s completely unrelated to Khan and quite frankly, nobody wants to read that shit.

Unless what you’re posting somehow ties into the thread topic or you feel is independantly useful and of value, then just make a separate thread.

Downplaying the intelligence of the community here is not very useful or conducive to growth. I can steer that and guide it into a healthier discussion of value and empowerment but it wouldn’t be related to Khan.

For these reasons, I’m not even going to reply to any of the points you’ve made.

If you want to make a thread on this, I probably won’t entertain it either because it’s low ROI.
In other words… I don’t have time for that shit.

and more importantly…

neither do you.

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Remarkable was given a two week ban for his comment about the “average intelligence” of the users here, and I’ll tell anyone who has a problem with it the same thing I told him: take that elitist shit back to Reddit.

Don’t ever post that crap here again.

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I’m going to disagree with you on that one a bit . From personal experience I know that doing the work should be the priority. Unfortunately ingrained beliefs and habits can make that near impossible for those not entirely willing to work through all the muck no matter how dense or painful it might be
I would run Regeneration , feel horrible the next day , and give up.
I’m also not sure how much one loving themselves leads to a happier or more fulfilling life. Maybe I’m that skeptical but I do feel that someone can be a blissful and overly optimistic while being oblivious to things going on around them

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Insults aside, his statement was just simply incorrect. He was essentially stating that the more you want to improve your life and the more dissatisfied you are, the likelier it is that your life has more missing to it, ergo people who focus on self-improvement are below people who aren’t.

The argument is akin to one saying that people who go regularly to the gym are weaker than people who aren’t, because people who don’t go to the gym are not as concerned with their strength and physique than the people who do.

Kinda ironic that a guy talking about people’s inability to argue, made such a flimsy argument. It’s a shame too, I usually like remarkable’s posts.

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To be honest I never reply to those arguments, but the premise was so bad I almost wrote something just to clarify that.

Emotions are created from perception of a situation, you can be fucking rich and still be unhappy because you see yourself as “not rich” and feeling like shit as a response to that.

Same for users here who want more, whatever their reason are.

After reading that post and that ban I can affirm that the “average intelligence” of the forum user has gone up significantly… at least for the next two weeks.

I also I don’t mind editing of that post if needed, I felt like sharing a bit of beef now that nobody’s there to defend themself :upside_down_face:

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