Main Disc. Thread - Godlike Masculinity ZP

You have a complete wrong understanding of how this healing masculinity works. You see it very black and white. Like either you are feminine and you feel thinks and care about others or you are masculine and then you don’t care about others, you are a machine without feelings. If you simplify it by that then you could also say with a feminine side you don’t get anything done, because you just sit there with your feelings. With the masculine side you get things done but you don’t get happiness.

You have to understand, you don’t lose the ability to feel, you just get more control of what you give power over you, which feelings you allow to be more intense than others.

Maybe it is time to read or listen to some Jordan Peterson for you to see there is no toxic masculinity.

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There is. The absence of masculinity in a man is what is toxic.
This is when covert contracts start, resentment building up that eventually lashes out, lies to “keep her happy” covered behind secret agencies, etc etc.

Nice Guys are THE worst. They act all nice, but in the back of their mind they have the worst thoughts.

I’ve been there and I see it a lot with guys every day.

As you said, “masculinity” is a VERY broad spectrum. And especially with ZP, it makes you masculine in EXACTLY the way your subconscious desires.

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Here is a very good article on the subject. Very detailed. Anyone interested can read it.

A toxic masculine person is one who is overtly masculine.

Leaning too much towards either side is what causes you to become toxic. Masculinity, and femininity are just the archetypal father and motherhood energies.

If you are too masculine, you become stubborn, never willing to compromise, never willing to see another persons perspective fully living in your world, etc

This is where the concept of Divine Masculine comes it when it is balanced with the feminine traits.

Going too much either day creates toxic humans.

For example as @AlexSQ mentioned a “nice guy” it’s simply a Man who has been demasculinised and leans towards the feminine polarity.

Jordan Peterson is correct, these forces are not toxic in themselves, it’s the imbalances and darkness within a person that makes them “toxic”.

Balance is always key.

Their are a lot of toxic man who have lost touch with their feminine side and who are extremely toxic.

A Man who is has godlike masculinity, also needs to know love and to understand compassion, empathy, mercy so that he is feeling to see and feel others and compromise when needed.

The middle path is where real strength lies.

Oh thank you @FireDragon this article sums it up pretty well.

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And exactly here the wording creates the problem with the “masculinity”.

To me the definition of masculinity means strong in character, strong in responsibility, strong in staying true to your values. I don’t see anything toxic in that.

I was expecting with my GLM and Ascension custom that it might make me very aggressive and pushing me in a lot of fights, bringing me to the edge of road rage or something like that. But maybe my definition of masculinity saved me.

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In essence love is femininity wherefrom comes the self-reflection, compassion, gratitude, acceptance, understanding, etc

Whereas will is masculinity, wherefrom comes action, drive, ambition, discipline, etc

When both of those forces merge and balance you get a Divine Masculine person, or a Divine Feminine person. And you start to walk the middle path, become more agreeable for man, and less vulnerable for woman.

Their is way more to it of course.

Absolutely!

That’s the whole point — both of these forces become toxic when improperly balanced.

Imagine for a moment, a mother who feels so deeply for her children that she is excessively calling, stalking them, checking on them, etc because she is scared and afraid that something will happen to them.

Just because of HER fears, doubts, worries, especially worries.

If she had balanced her masculine traits this would not happen.

In fact it is what traumatises a child in a way because she deteriorates that child’s masculinity, and ability to grow up and become independent.

How can a boy become a man if he is constantly relying upon the protection of her mother, never being free to do as he pleases because the mother is not MASCULINE and knows not how to show the boy to live as a Man and emulate her.

This is the same principle.

It is toxic.

You don’t know those “mother children” especially man. They are passive, feminine, never taking risks, etc

And they feel the needs to comply with their mothers “worries” because otherwise she will “feel” bad. This is wrong, and very toxic and manipulating on the mothers end. Whereas with man it would be more controlling, through sheer will and domination, with toxic femininity it is manipulation through emotions.

And the worst of all is when a Man (body) and Female (body) gets their forces twisted around — the best example of this would be a man who is feminine in his energies, being abused and controlled by a woman who is masculine in her energies.

A very masculine woman would need to find a even more masculine man to get attracted (this is just magnetism— it’s science) or she has to balance her forces and connect more with her feminine side.

In a relationship when both persons are properly balanced they will harmonise perfectly.

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So do you also see toxic femininity? Or is that not possible?

Yes thats a healthy definition of masculinity not a toxic one.

The negative side is more like this:
This harmful concept of masculinity also places significant importance on ‘manliness’ based on:

  • strength
    
  • lack of emotion
    
  • self-sufficiency
    
  • dominance
    
  • sexual virility
    

According to traditional toxic masculine values, a male who does not display enough of these traits may fall short of being a ‘real man.’

Overemphasis of these traits may lead to harmful imbalances in someone trying to live up to these expectations. Some examples include:

  • aggression
    
  • sexual aggression or control
    
  • showing no emotion or suppressing emotions
    
  • hyper-competitiveness
    
  • needing to dominate or control others
    
  • a tendency towards or glorification of violence
    
  • isolation
    
  • low empathy
    
  • entitlement
    
  • chauvinism and sexism

I saw that on the random article from the internet you posted.
In my opinion those come from a weak character, not from masculinity.

If you put it like “too much masculinity is bad, everything with femininity is good”, then it points to an unhealthy belief. Also if you believe in toxic masculinity it might be wise to try and heal your masculine side by running GLM.

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How if I phrase it like that:

It is not masculinity that is toxic but the total absence of femininity.
Femininity is not toxic, but the total absence of masculinity.

So the masculinity is not the toxic part or the bad part but the missing of the other part.

Men with toxic masculinity are weak, that’s not a contradiction at all. But then we come to the question of what makes a real man. Those are more of the characteristics you outlined earlier. And @Houdini is right it’s all a matter of balance. The definitions are all fluid but what a person does and doesn’t do makes him who he is. You shall know them by their deeds. That’s pretty much it. A man who beats his wife to get his way is toxic. Violence is just one keyword in connection with toxic masculinity. There is also toxic femininity. You can find some interesting articles on the net. The best on psychological sites. Here, too, a definition is difficult, but there are some behavior patterns that are undisputed. The woman submits to the man who beats her to survive. That would be an aspect of toxic femininity, for example.

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One definition:

Toxic femininity is when one works to the benefit of others but to the detriment of themselves. It can appear as forms of depression, exhaustion, or wildly illogical solutions to complex problems.

Guys, you can take this conversation to the next dimension

KWML.

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Discussing toxicity is falling into the frame set by narrative controllers.

We above dat.

:hugs:

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Back to GLM. I am running the 320k version now and i have to say that it is stronger.
Its like CWON 320k there is much more power behind it. In regards to results it is too early for me to judge GLM. Running it now since 21days and have some subtle changes. Its all in my journal. The whole new ZP files with 320k are a big step forward. ZP was strong ZP320k is stronger. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Nothing toxic about masculinity, if a man has to hit a woman to gain compliance, he is (IMO) suffering from childhood trauma and most likely had a lack of control when growing up. Nothing to do with the qualities of masculinity. That term is used to demasculate the general population who could have the power to overthrow the “elites”.
But that’s another conversation… :wink:

Far as I’m concerned GLM is what a man needs to feel comfortable in his own skin… and women can’t get enough of it.

Gotta ask, where are you getting these hi-bit rate versions?

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Look in your SC account Downloads. ZP files are being updated.

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Status of specific Updates is in this thread.

:+1:t2:

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I would say, run GLM for yourself for an extended period of time and the answer to this question will come automatically. From my own experience it can sometimes be hard to put it down into words, but what i feel from GLM and other alpha programs in terms of masculinity is just a knowingness deep down of what it is.

That’s my woo woo answer :v:

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If a man cannot tap into his dark side, he is repressing his masculinity. This doesn’t mean beating your woman like you said, but there are times when you have to defend your family, and this can even include violence.

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Back on topic, everyone. Make a thread in the Emperor’s Lounge if you’d like to continue this particular topic.

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