@AnswerGroup whats happening with the new listening schedule? I thought it was gonna drop last season or something
I suspect it’s not a one size fits all thing. I’ve tried all kinds of different stacks, and sometimes I experiment with stack overkill.
But that said, once I had something on ZP that stuck and was more in alignment with who I am (HeO originally), I ended up falling into a natural pattern where there would be a few days on and an extended period off, leading to another stack loop and then another few days integrating or executing. I think after you get sensitive to the subs you can tell when the desire to run another loop is just jonesing for something vs knowing “it’s time”. I wouldn’t say my sweet spot is once a week by any stretch, but it can get close if I’ve had enough exposure beforehand.
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Bullseye
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False dichotomy.
Trying out a method used by someone else can be one of the steps on the path to finding your own sweet spot.
@Prioritas will of course keep looking until he finds what works for him. Why wouldn’t he?
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I thought we were talking about subliminal input here—not cooking recipes, dialectics or shooting at a target blindfolded.
Starting with micro loops is the most sensible advice for anyone trying to find their sweet spot.
What’s even more concerning is that some people who’ve been using subs for a long time are still struggling to find what works for them. Suggesting they follow someone else’s listening pattern will likely lead to yet another misstep—unless they happen to get lucky.
Yeah, I know, Thanks.
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If i remember correctly saint said that he would consider upgrading Hero Origins after hero the light the blinds is finished,is it up for a upgrade orrr,
And also what about the 8 stager Hero,
Also take your break im not impatient just curious
I do. I only run 5 minute loops whenever I want to listen to a sub but feel more not in my skin / nervous past few days and - more prone to getting reconed. Its very intuitive.
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How many loops did it take to get the “last as long as you want” result?
One loop is enough to last much longer, this specific subliminal is extremely fast acting.
Both in making you last longer and attracting females that want to have sex with you.
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Would you please elaborate on what these long term methods are?
Yes, we can learn from others’ experiences. That is how recommendations are discovered.
I agree with @Sub.Zero here, in that experimenting in the service of attempting to find a sweet spot in minutes per each loop can be time well spent.
Please pay attention to our humble and wise Ambassador, @Malkuth .
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Let me clarify guys, when I said fruitless experimentation, I meant unscientifically throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, instead of experimenting with intention and with an eye for insight. Unfortunately I am prone to lazy thinking like that sometimes.
But yes, I know the journey is in itself a destination, and I fully intend to find my own sweet spot for this current stack.
The thing is, as stacks change and objectives shift, the potential for recon changes as well as now my stack might hit different than the last one since the subjects require deeper excavation and transformation.
So it’s not a case of a longtime member still not knowing his sweet spot, but of an ever evolving process still being in the process of evolution.
Hope that makes sense.
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I did the downgrade pattern.
15min
12
9
6
3
1
Then after evaluating my state’s and results I came to the conclusion that 3min works the best for me the first 2 months and then I upgrade to 9 min
Took me 12 days to figure out my sweetspot
I hope you find yours, it’s so worth it
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We needed to see how anti-recon would work first. That would change the listening schedule.
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Can we get the anti recon module
when we upgrade custom with
Discounted ZP Rebuilds?
Is that even possible? 
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Shoot I’ve been super busy and haven’t been keeping up on postings. Has the listening schedule changed for the newer titles?
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no
5char
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Nah we getting thunder mask next release.
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Iv noticed 3 minutes to be the sweet spot as well,i dont go over that and get the results i want
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It does make sense, of course—and that’s exactly why I tried to dissuade you from blindly experimenting with someone else’s listening pattern and criticized the idea of treating is as a step to finding your sweet spot.
Starting with micro loops each time is recommended for a reason: it’s the best way to find your sweet spot, as it’s a highly individual matter. It varies not only from person to person but also between different stacks—and sometimes even from day to day.
Another important point is monitoring low-level recon, which is the most common type of recon—and even so-called “elite” users often struggle to detect it. This kind of recon can be quite insidious because it’s subtle, easy to overlook, and can linger for weeks or even months if not kept in check.
Signs like lingering anxiety or irritability lasting more than a few hours—especially when combined with vivid, intense dreams and waking up groggy—are clear indicators of low-level recon. In such cases, it means the mind needs more time to process the scripting.
Good luck, guys.
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