Main Disc. Thread - Dragon Reborn ZP

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#218

I don’t think people realize what a powerful tool Love Bomb is in this regard. I primed myself for a whole month of LB before I started with Dragon Reborn, and I am beyond certain that doing that set me up for success and allowed me to stick to it until completion. It made me feel better during the hardest parts of the healing when it brought up the really heavy stuff to the surface.

I was actually going to suggest in this thread that anyone that want to run DR also either run LB, Elixir or CFW, and do so either for a few weeks before as a primer, or during as a soother.

Dragon Reborn is not an easy sub for sure, but LB helped me through it, no doubt.

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#219

I feel like most people never even get a chance to find out what our actual limitations and obstacles are, because we are already stopped by the stories and beliefs we’ve internalized.

And I think that way more powerful than beliefs is another force that is under-estimated by people due to how quiet and unassuming it appears to be: Habit.

I think that Habit does more to shape society, the world, and our individual lives than we’d ever realize. We prefer to focus on more dramatic factors. But I think habit contributes–more than many other things–to the lives that we end up living.

It’s like we’re in a building with 10000 doors, and we don’t even try most of those doors.

This is a big part of what I’m seeking from Dragon Reborn: to build and optimize a strong, unshakeable connection to my best versions and possibilities of living life.

….irrespective of what I may have done, experienced, ‘learned’, heard about, or thought of in the past.

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#220

What is belief other than habitual patterns of thought?

of COURSE, NLP gets into beliefs being other Complex Equivalence or Cause/Effect.
But really…breaking the habitual pattern of thought is good.

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#221

All (or most) beliefs are habits;

Not all habits are beliefs.

(I’m speaking in conventional terms here; about conscious, consensual reality. If we go ‘under the hood’, anything can mean anything.)

For many people, the most powerful habits are behaviors—unquestioned, unthinking behaviors about which we wouldn’t (consciously) experience having much belief at all.

It’s the reason I’m not writing this post from the mountains of Chile or while sitting in a Mongolian yurt. I don’t ‘believe’ those places are “wrong”; it just never occurs to me to go there in the first place.

(And yes, I’m aware that these perceptual habits can be framed as a type of belief.)

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#222

There’s a certain weight to Dragon Reborn for me.

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I can feel my mind processing and carrying the load.

This 5-day processing period is welcome.

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#223

Sorry, I meant running DR along with LB. I had a really amazing experience on it. It was described here:

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#224

What does this mean?

#225

It’s just how much time they’ve listened

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#226

Yes, counted in hours pers stage. That was insane. Now it’s only 15 minutes every other day yet the results are way more better.

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#227

I remember when the goal was 250-500 hours per sub, depending on which one.
15 minutes is crazy awesome now.

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#228

Dragon Reborn is the Crossfit of healing subs?
Train with Rich Froning? The guy on the right for those that don’t know
It’s probably good that I am unable to afford to do Crossfit at this time because with enough training I would probably destroy a lot of people in my age range. My physical tolerance is unreal. Scarier when I’m motivated

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#229

Are you a guitar player?

#230

Not at all

#231

I was wondering about something… I did all the DR stages in Qv2 last year, and I am now considering adding DRst4 ZP to my current stack as a Power oriented title but… would that be too risky? I am wondering since I haven’t done all the previous stages also in ZP, and that DRst4 ZP might be too big a beast for me to handle with out having done it from the ground up in ZP.

I guess… the only way to know for sure is to try it and see what happens but… ah… potential recon… is not exactly something that I had planned for the weekend :sweat_smile:

Should I be brave and/or stupid enough to try it?

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#232

I have a similar plan. I’m considering DR stage 4 as a core of a ZP custom, for longer term listening.
Won’t be ready for that until June or July.

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#233

I did DRZP st1 for 21 days, then I started st4. Worked through the complete program in Q-Qv2 a year ago.

If you´ve got the time I really recommend that you listen to st1 for a while.

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#234

@Malkuth I ran all four stages the other day and I don’t think I ever felt so calm in my entire life
Made me realize I have a lot more to work on to get to where I want to be.

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#235

Anyone in therapy or counseling whether 1 on 1 or in group setting tried Dragon Reborn stacked with True Social? I wonder how that might combo. You’d be really insightful about your own challenges and you’d be able to be open and honest about them potentially gaining most benefit from such a situation?

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#236

Listening to my last loop of DR ST1…it’s not an easy ride

I don’t know what Dr st2 will work on me after 5 days

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#237

I get such a strange and interesting mixture of responses to Dragon Reborn.

For example, often right after I’ve played my loop, or maybe even in the day or two afterwards, I’ll experience this kind of energy drop. It’s not tiredness, it’s an energy-retraction. Like a trumpet gets blown, and all of the soldiers, the farmers, the scouts, the horses and cattle that were in the surrounding fields; they all get recalled back to the castle. There’s this sense that everything is being drawn back to the center, and I’ll feel disengaged from the surrounding world.

On the other hand, there’s this other movement that happens.

The clearest example of that one:

February 11 - I play my first loop of Dragon Flight (Dragon Reborn Stage 3). Then as I’m taking my daily walk on the 12th or 13th, I ‘suddenly’ and ‘for no particular reason’ feel like jogging instead of walking. And then the same thing happens the next day and the next. Then I think, ‘what if I worked through the 0 to 5k training regimen again?’ And the next thing I know, it’s a month later and I’ve been slowly increasing my jogging for the past 3-4 weeks.

So, I can observe this energetic refinement and restructuring process happening.

I used to run 5 to 10 k years ago. Then I decided to switch to lifting and gaining mass. That and a combination of other things led to my running really falling off. If I get back there, I’ll dedicate some of my runs to Dragon Reborn because it will have clearly played a part in getting me back there.

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